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Persuade me to switch from carts

For the last few years I have vaped live rosin carts exclusively, every day. I buy good (but not elite) carts from a dispensary -- usually Ideal brand from a local place called Goldflower. I'm in Florida, so there are full lab reports with each batch. I always vape my carts through water, and usually large, multi-chamber bongs with ice and ash catchers. Total overkill. I use a YocanPro and vape at 2.0 volts (at least for the first half of the cart), but I sometimes take long draws, leaving the heat on and pulling until my battery times out at 15 seconds. I have three Yocans and three open carts at any time, so if I want to take multiple hits, I don't hit a still-hot cart. I'm worried about smell, so 100% of the time I exhale into a SmokeTrap+. Between vape carts, water, and exhaling into a carbon filter, my room is practically smell free.

Recently I've been thinking about how different cannabinoids vaporize at different temperatures and wondering if my cart usage is limiting my highs. Should I add a dry herb vape for home use, like the Volcano Hybrid? What I really want to find out is whether my highs will feel different. Even though live rosin is single strain and nicely extracts the various cannabinoids, I doubt vaporizing a live rosin cart at 2.0 volts for 15 seconds gives the same ratios of cannabinoids as filling a bag from a Volcano, even when the strain is exactly the same. Maybe the effects are different. By the way, I sometimes swallow an eye dropper full of full spectrum CBD at night to enhance the vape with additional cannabinoids.

I understand a Volcano will take a lot more effort to control the smell. I'm willing to do that if there's a real chance I'll enjoy the highs more, or have more types or highs to choose from. Is there? Or am I likely to feel the same? I am not unhappy with my current setup, but I am curious.

For what it's worth, I don't give a hoot about "taste." Massive percolation removes most of that anyway, which I prefer. I don't believe terps contribute to the high, and sometimes they irritate my throat even with my massive percolation. Also, I'd rather not add "cost" into the discussion; I already have all the information I need about costs. My interest is in whether my high will feel different vaping dry herb compared to live rosin carts. How different? I'd appreciate hearing especially from people who have extensive experience with both live rosin carts and vaping dry herb.
 
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I'm not really a person who feels people should be persuaded to do anything. I'm definitely against evangelizing dry herb vapes. I like it a hell of a lot more that carts or smoking, but for people who prefer that I say they should feel free to enjoy it.

I would encourage anyone with curiousity to try anything they want. I would recommend a lot of things over the volcano, but different folks have different preferences.
 

hashmasta kut

vapor is the best!
never used a cart never will. not here to convince you of anything though, you need to direct your own experience.

and terps are what make the high good. studies have been done by none other than skunkman sam RIP, and without terps, thc is boring.
 

MTpromises

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I'm suspect of terps and even other cannabinoids. I've grown strains for THC-V and 1:1 CBD:THC, the V wss fine but I didn't get energized or anything. CBD was like weed light.

Edit, fat fingered reply.

Some Dry Herb Vapes are "session vapes" and they tend to give hits in the range of cart potency imo.

"Heavy Hitters" can give significant bigger hits. If you just want to get high look at the Screwball, Universal Baller, Terpcicle/Quartz Cap, Tornado, Qshop 360.
 
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davesmith

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The high is so different through different methods, why not try them all!

Also cart hardware is mass produced in China for pennies, if you consider your health important maybe varying your consumption patterns is a good idea. The rosin may be lab tested but is the hardware?

But ofc you do what you prefer, no harm in trying new things though.
 

hashmasta kut

vapor is the best!
I'm suspect of terps and even other cannabinoids. I've grown strains for THC-V and 1:1 CBD:THC, the V wss fine but I didn't get energized or anything. CBD was like weed light.

Edit, fat fingered reply.

Some Dry Herb Vapes are "session vapes" and they tend to give hits in the range of cart potency imo.

"Heavy Hitters" can give significant bigger hits. If you just want to get high look at the Screwball, Universal Baller, Terpcicle/Quartz Cap, Tornado, Qshop 360.
You are missing the major factor of a better high, it's not how large the inhalation is, it is how potent the marijuana is.

A good example is the legendary thai stick, when it was around early 80's you would see a guy pull out a pinner, and say 6 people can get high off this with two tokes each. You are like bullcrap buddy, and two tokes later, you were blitzed for hours, grinning like an idiot.
 
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Flotsam

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I agree w Hasmasta kut, had a friend let me try his cart once and it was awful. I would have never tried vaping again if thats all there was.
 

JCat

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From a health perspective, I suspect flower vapes, or even low temperature vaping of concentrates in a banger or bucket type system would be a lot healthier. I'm still skeptical about the long term health effects of vaping using a device with a submerged heater that basically boils it away.

(who really knows, but I guess time will tell)

And carts are really convenient at certain times, but I try to avoid them except for very specific situations.
 
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