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Simrell Vaporizer
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LemmeHitThatJawn
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Yes. Using the wand as recommended is very similar to hybrid. I haven’t done much testing without an insert. I would like to though. It would be cool for people who can’t use a torch to be able to experience the different heating zones using an induction heater.
HighTime
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Thank you! Please keep us posted if you test it without an insert.
Werbenjaegermanjensen
I was #1
Just saw that the TED Engine is in stock and ordered it in combination with an XL Walnut Unibody Vortex Stem. A bit of a bummer the full titanium model isn't in stock, but I wasn't willing to wait any longer – hopefully it'll be sold separately in the future, might just pick it up.
I'm using mechanical vapes 99% of the time, daily driving a Tempest (v2 should also arrive very soon) and a Vapman click. Can do a little review – not so much a comparison of what's "better", but more of a look at where the Simrell stands out in terms of features and overall experience, if desired.
Being able to choose between convection, conduction, and hybrid heating, as well as the ~0.15g bowl size, might make it end up as my personal go-to vape.
I'm using mechanical vapes 99% of the time, daily driving a Tempest (v2 should also arrive very soon) and a Vapman click. Can do a little review – not so much a comparison of what's "better", but more of a look at where the Simrell stands out in terms of features and overall experience, if desired.
Being able to choose between convection, conduction, and hybrid heating, as well as the ~0.15g bowl size, might make it end up as my personal go-to vape.
Puddentain
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Your post and this thread, along with Austyn’s Sneaky Pete appearance last week put me over the top, and I’ve got the TED Engine on order as well. I already had the XL Walnut MVS ordered for use with the Stunner, so this is going to be fun! I like the idea of picking up the full titanium after the fact sometime, but absolutely love the flexibility this setup offers.
eyevape
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Simrell is there, it only took a little over five weeks of a quite wild journey 
It’s been to six places in three of the United States, which alone took 10 days. German customs then decided to kept it for another four weeks straight and put a red sticker on it which says: Don’t fucking deliver! So I went there today with ridiculous complex paperwork and after one hour of waiting I was allowed to explain the principles of a manual dry herb vaporizer to a bunch of customs officers - which do confiscate drugs btw. I then quickly paid the taxes and went the fuck out there. Hope they didn’t get my license plate
Loving the device! It feels so good in hand, well balanced and meticulously crafted. I’ve been watching Austyn hitting it in the live stream multiple times, so I knew how to torch it properly. I easily achieved the “golden zone” in hybrid mode, which is great for CBD. For THC I like it darker, so I quickly worked my way up to a chocolate dark roast by carefully decreasing the flame distance. This was pretty straightforward.
The cooling is incredible. Even when running very hot, there’s only the loss in flavor that tells me that I’m doing so, no harshness whatsoever. The airflow is spot on perfect, nowhere near restricted or airy. I’d describe it as bouncy, if that makes any sense
The rest is as seen in the videos, fluffy clouds, rich flavor and nice effects. Convection mode is easy, Hybrid as welll. I’m excited to dial in full conduction to take full advantage of the Simrell’s versatility. First day’s impressions of this beautiful device are more than promising 
It’s been to six places in three of the United States, which alone took 10 days. German customs then decided to kept it for another four weeks straight and put a red sticker on it which says: Don’t fucking deliver! So I went there today with ridiculous complex paperwork and after one hour of waiting I was allowed to explain the principles of a manual dry herb vaporizer to a bunch of customs officers - which do confiscate drugs btw. I then quickly paid the taxes and went the fuck out there. Hope they didn’t get my license plate Loving the device! It feels so good in hand, well balanced and meticulously crafted. I’ve been watching Austyn hitting it in the live stream multiple times, so I knew how to torch it properly. I easily achieved the “golden zone” in hybrid mode, which is great for CBD. For THC I like it darker, so I quickly worked my way up to a chocolate dark roast by carefully decreasing the flame distance. This was pretty straightforward.
The cooling is incredible. Even when running very hot, there’s only the loss in flavor that tells me that I’m doing so, no harshness whatsoever. The airflow is spot on perfect, nowhere near restricted or airy. I’d describe it as bouncy, if that makes any sense
The rest is as seen in the videos, fluffy clouds, rich flavor and nice effects. Convection mode is easy, Hybrid as welll. I’m excited to dial in full conduction to take full advantage of the Simrell’s versatility. First day’s impressions of this beautiful device are more than promising I_like_logs
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My Simrell arrived yesterday. I'm not impressed. Here's the review I left on the product page:
There is a lot of positive feedback here for this vaporiser, but in my experience, it’s nothing special. If I was comparing it to a Dynavap, sure, it’s an improvement. But compared to other modern TED’s, this was a waste of my cash. Sure, it looks pretty and is machined well, but it doesn’t work that well. Also, while I love the idea that this doesn’t use o-rings, in reality, it’s a messy approach. I’ve only taken the thing apart once, but you have to use the intercooler as a screwdriver… which is a great idea as the thing is covered in reclaim! The vape isn’t magnetic, so you can’t open the bowl using a magnet. The bowl threads are fiddly and seem to get caught easily. The cooling stand cools well, but doesn’t grip the bowl at all, so you gotta wait for it to cool down before you open it. I’m sure there’s more I could add, but this’ll do for now. I feel like an asshole writing this review, but I think it’s important there’s a little balance in what’s shown here. As the only reason I gave this a try was the overwhelming positive reviews. Anyway, all the best with your new invention. I look forward to seeing the ecosystem grow. But I won’t be buying anymore… this thing really disappointed me.
My one star review has been seen. Simrell has sent me a coupon code for my next order (lol) to express their appreciation for my (one star) review. However, the review isn't currently showing on the product page. Not sure why. Maybe a publishing delay or something? [Edit, looks like businesses may manually publish reviews as outlined here, I'll wait a few days and if it's not published then I'll follow up with Simrell].
Happy to expand on my review if that's helpful to anyone here interested.
There is a lot of positive feedback here for this vaporiser, but in my experience, it’s nothing special. If I was comparing it to a Dynavap, sure, it’s an improvement. But compared to other modern TED’s, this was a waste of my cash. Sure, it looks pretty and is machined well, but it doesn’t work that well. Also, while I love the idea that this doesn’t use o-rings, in reality, it’s a messy approach. I’ve only taken the thing apart once, but you have to use the intercooler as a screwdriver… which is a great idea as the thing is covered in reclaim! The vape isn’t magnetic, so you can’t open the bowl using a magnet. The bowl threads are fiddly and seem to get caught easily. The cooling stand cools well, but doesn’t grip the bowl at all, so you gotta wait for it to cool down before you open it. I’m sure there’s more I could add, but this’ll do for now. I feel like an asshole writing this review, but I think it’s important there’s a little balance in what’s shown here. As the only reason I gave this a try was the overwhelming positive reviews. Anyway, all the best with your new invention. I look forward to seeing the ecosystem grow. But I won’t be buying anymore… this thing really disappointed me.
My one star review has been seen. Simrell has sent me a coupon code for my next order (lol) to express their appreciation for my (one star) review. However, the review isn't currently showing on the product page. Not sure why. Maybe a publishing delay or something? [Edit, looks like businesses may manually publish reviews as outlined here, I'll wait a few days and if it's not published then I'll follow up with Simrell].
Happy to expand on my review if that's helpful to anyone here interested.
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How is the vapor?
Thank you for your feedback. I have not checked for any reviews lately and I haven’t gotten an email notification of a new review.
Im sorry to hear your having some troubles. Out of curiosity, how are you heating the device?
In regards to the threads, it does take some getting used to. Being gentle with the mating parts goes a long way. They are not large industrial pipe threads, so a little finesse is required.
In regards to disassembly, we offer a multi tool if you wanted to make adjustments to the capacitor while the parts are still fully assembled. Otherwise, popping out the intercooler with a Q tip and cleaning it quickly with an iso prep pad during the cleaning process would eliminate any transfer of reclaim to then be able to use the intercooler for disassembly.
The intent for cooling the Simrell is by using the cooling stand that works as a proper heat sink and a more stable storage solution. Magnets aren’t very efficient at cooling, which is why it wasn’t a focus of mine to ensure compatibility with a magnet as I wanted to provide a better solution.
Budboss TV did a really great job with heating tips, cleaning and assembly. I’d recommend watching that video if you haven’t already. That will help tremendously, along with our quick start user guide.
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I_like_logs
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It's okay.
Can you share a picture of your AVB? Also, what is the methodology you’re using to heat the device? Tracking shows the order was delivered on the 21st
( today ) so I would definitely recommend spending some more time with it to dial it in. I’m happy to help anyway I can and would recommend exploring the platform a little more to familiarize your self with the capabilities of the product.
I_like_logs
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Appreciate your response, just left the review this morning, so not sure why you weren't notified...
Regarding the threads, I have uncooperative hands at times due to health issues. Twice now after filling the bowl, I've rubbed it gently on my sleeve to remove finger oils before heating, only to have the bowl fall off! Obviously it can be tightened up again, but as I'm likely to turn the bowl the wrong way when I initially open it (uncooperative hands + brain), I end up loosening it again. This ain't good. It's only a matter of time before I drop a hot bowl on the carpet if I'm not careful.
Good point regarding the multi tool. And yeah, can clean the intercooler before disassembly, but in this case I'd only had two bowls before I combusted and it didn't occur to me that it'd be sticky. I found the condenser difficult to remove and replace (once again, dodgy hands), although I'm sure using a proper screwdriver would improve that aspect. I wasn't able to remove the thermal battery or whatever it's called, wayyyyyy to much unscrewing. Like an absolute nightmare for me. Obviously many of these issues won't apply to others whose hands are more cooperative.
I'm heating using a PB-207 and the wand. I've watched numerous videos on how it works etc. and have plenty of experience with other TED's. Obviously with more use I'd further dial in heating etc. but I'm not going to bother. I guess I could say that this device just isn't for me, but ergonomic issues aside, it doesn't compare to the other TED's I use daily. Not even close.
I offered it to a young mate to use. He's a low tolerance, low temp kinda guy. He hit it and said "that's kinda nice, compared to my Dynavap... now where is your [other vape that he normally borrows]?"
Was delivered yesterday (I'm in Aust). The AVB looks great, nice uniform roast. Appreciate your willingness to help. I might give it another go later, and will post AVB pics etc. But I don't think it's a user issue, I've had some nice bowls out of it. I just think for a combination of reasons it isn't right for me. And that's okay.
That is pretty unreasonable to leave a one star review when half of the issues with the product are related to physical issues that the user has. To each their own though.
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I want to acknowledge that this device, with its precision threaded design, may not be the best fit for users with significant dexterity challenges. That’s a valid point and one I’ll continue to consider as we refine future designs.
That said, I am surprised to see such a definitive statement “Don’t waste your money” after just a single day of use. I completely understand how frustrating it can be when a product doesn’t “click” right away, but I also believe a bit more exploration can often lead to a very different experience.
Regarding your comment that the Simrell “doesn’t compare to other devices on the market,” I’d respectfully disagree in that context. Admittedly, I’m biased as the creator of the device but I’m also a long time enthusiast who has studied and used nearly every major vaporizer available: battery-powered portables, analog systems, desktops, and artisan builds.
To be clear, my intention here isn’t to sound defensive. I simply want to offer my perspective that’s rooted in real world experience across a broad range of devices.
The Simrell was designed to be a highly modular, customizable platform that rewards technique and intention. With its ability to operate in three distinct heating modes ( Convection, Conduction, Hybrid ), it sets itself apart in a meaningful way.
In my own testing, the closest vapor experience I’ve found comes from the DigiTi Herborizer. That system helped raise the standard for vapor quality and in many ways, it was the benchmark I aimed to meet. The Simrell delivers a similar richness and density, but in a far more compact, on-demand format with even more capabilities.
As for your combustion experience: this is almost always the result of overheating typically from holding the flame too close or for too long. For torch use, keeping the heat exchanger just at the edge of the flame allows the system to reach thermal equilibrium for optimal performance. I’d recommend brushing the flame across the length of the heat exchanger while slowly rotating to get a hybrid vapor experience. This is the most forgiving method of heating to significantly reduce the chance of combustion. This will help you familiarize yourself with the system and how it handles the heat.
When using a wand, insert the engine to the first fin and start around 350°F, removing it as the screen times out ( ignore the click activation if it does occur) This approach yields smooth, flavorful, and creamy vapor. From there, you can increase temperature ( increasing the time in the IH ) to dial in a denser, more intense extraction if desired.
I’m truly sorry to hear you’re not thrilled with the experience so far and I do not want to discredit your initial impressions or your feelings so far. The feedback is appreciated, good or bad. It’s always my mission to ensure our customers are not only satisfied but proud to own a Simrell. I sincerely hope you’ll give the device a fair shot to see what it’s capable of. if you’d like any more tips or a walkthrough, I’m always happy to help.
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I_like_logs
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Even if I had fully functioning hands and none of those ergonomic issues applied, I'd still rate the vaporiser one star, given the cost, claims made on the product page (e.g. "This isn’t an upgrade. It’s the new standard." lol) and my experience using it. I think it's also worth noting that others who use cannabis for medical reasons may face similar issues with their hands. I don't have these ergonomic issues with other simliar style vaporisers, these are specific to this device, which is why I mentioned them. If there had been any reviews noting these potential issues, it would have helped me make a more informed purchasing decision, but their wasn't, so I left my thoughts for others who are thinking about buying The Simrell. I've been a customer of Simrell's since the early days and have always had a great experience with his products and customer service. But just because I like the guy, it doesn't mean I owe him a 5 star review. I rated this one star, as it was a real disappointment to me. I don't think that's unreasonable.
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@asimrell fair, the title "Don't waste your money" is a bit harsh, but it's how I feel. Yep, I've only had it for a day, less than 24 hours even, but that's enough time for me to test a new device. I'm not looking for an exploratory device, I'm looking for something that'll help me medicate quickly, reliably and effectively.
I'm not taking anything you are saying here as defensive and I appreciate that you stand behind your products and are open to chatting with me about this. I know that you have extensive experience with dry herb vapes (your collection is amazing). And I appreciate that you don't agree with my statement that "doesn’t compare to other devices on the market", but that's how I feel. I guess we may be looking for different things?
Thanks for the tips on heating. I'll give it another go today and let you know how I go.
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Simrell is there, it only took a little over five weeks of a quite wild journey
Loving the device! It feels so good in hand, well balanced and meticulously crafted. I’ve been watching Austyn hitting it in the live stream multiple times, so I knew how to torch it properly. I easily achieved the “golden zone” in hybrid mode, which is great for CBD. For THC I like it darker, so I quickly worked my way up to a chocolate dark roast by carefully decreasing the flame distance. This was pretty straightforward.
The cooling is incredible. Even when running very hot, there’s only the loss in flavor that tells me that I’m doing so, no harshness whatsoever. The airflow is spot on perfect, nowhere near restricted or airy. I’d describe it as bouncy, if that makes any sense
Crazy to see the scenic route the package took. I apologies for the delay but I’m glad that it arrived safely! I’m really happy to hear that your enjoying it
Smknbud
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You don't owe a 5 star review agreed, but giving it the worst rating possible (1 star ) based on your review comments I just read, and especially using it for one whole day, actually seems borderline juvenile.
I_like_logs
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I am really disappointed with the product, why should I give it more than one star?
I didn't realise I had to use a product for a week before I can share my thoughts on it.
It's okay if we like different things. The reviews I've seen for The Simrell are overly positive... so maybe my evaluation is "wrong" - but I don't see how sharing my thoughts is "borderline juvenile".
I don't know if I would consider it juvenile so much as a reflection of experience balanced with expectation. But I do understand what you mean because honestly I feel the same way about people that just give 5 stars without being honest about device short comings. Very very few things are perfect and considering some of the issues are part of the design I don't see how others wouldn't have at least experienced the issues even if they don't bother them as much.
There seem to be multiple issues for @I_like_logs some of which appear to simply be part of the design and for the price of this device I would honestly expect harsh reviews from anyone not happy with their purchase.
This isn't a 100 dollar vape this is 460 dollars which is going to set expectations extremely high
For that expectation to be let down, is going to be felt all the more. Every little owe I wish this was better issue is amplified.
I fully appreciate the review being shared here , as most vendors do not actually end up approving reviews they don't want on their site.
I_like_logs
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I’ve had two bowls through “The Simrell” since I last posted. Heated the first with an appropriately sized PB-207 and followed guidance provided above for optimal heating. Second bowl was using the wand, following suggested settings mentioned above. I’m still disappointed. Each time I put it in the cooling stand I immediately reach for another vaporiser. Based on my (short) time with this device, I’ve decided it’s not for me. If there was an option to return it for a refund I would. Anyway, unless anyone has any questions for me, I won’t be posting here again. All the best.
TastefulGent
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I rarely ever post or comment here, but I really feel we need to check some expectations.
As far as I know, at no point has this vape been marketed as an entry level device. From the very beginning, even before this device was released, Austyn has talked about this device being geared towards intermediate/seasoned users. Without it being said, I immediately infer there is a degree of learning with it. It has many ways it can be heated, using many different methods, and even variability within the device itself (has anybody even tried moving the positioning of the capacitor yet?). We will be seeing more variations and changes (I think Pete and Austyn have both leaked/previewed capacitor changes), which expresses even more importance around dialing it in. This is not a click a button and go vape, this is a $300 vape for users that are going to spend the time to find their preferred methods. When I first picked up a dynavap, I had trouble with it. I combusted several times, and under roasted my bowl while figuring it out. It took months before I really got into a groove with it. Does that mean dynavaps are 1-star products? No, I had to develop a feel for it. Its the same with this device.
I wholeheartedly understand if there are difficulties due to individual health issues, such as arthritis or other dexterity issues, but is that the fault of this device? Is this a problem that exists exclusively with the Simrell and not present in other threaded devices?
Honestly, I appreciate people’s first impressions, but I also put more weight behind reviews that have more time behind them.
I’d highly recommend making a follow up after living with the device for a couple of months. Keep your initial impressions, as thats still valuable, but leave room incase your impressions change. Maybe they don’t, but your experience would overall be infinitely more valuable after giving it an actual chance rather than a snap judgement.
As far as I know, at no point has this vape been marketed as an entry level device. From the very beginning, even before this device was released, Austyn has talked about this device being geared towards intermediate/seasoned users. Without it being said, I immediately infer there is a degree of learning with it. It has many ways it can be heated, using many different methods, and even variability within the device itself (has anybody even tried moving the positioning of the capacitor yet?). We will be seeing more variations and changes (I think Pete and Austyn have both leaked/previewed capacitor changes), which expresses even more importance around dialing it in. This is not a click a button and go vape, this is a $300 vape for users that are going to spend the time to find their preferred methods. When I first picked up a dynavap, I had trouble with it. I combusted several times, and under roasted my bowl while figuring it out. It took months before I really got into a groove with it. Does that mean dynavaps are 1-star products? No, I had to develop a feel for it. Its the same with this device.
I wholeheartedly understand if there are difficulties due to individual health issues, such as arthritis or other dexterity issues, but is that the fault of this device? Is this a problem that exists exclusively with the Simrell and not present in other threaded devices?
Honestly, I appreciate people’s first impressions, but I also put more weight behind reviews that have more time behind them.
I’d highly recommend making a follow up after living with the device for a couple of months. Keep your initial impressions, as thats still valuable, but leave room incase your impressions change. Maybe they don’t, but your experience would overall be infinitely more valuable after giving it an actual chance rather than a snap judgement.
I_like_logs
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I write a lot. The thoughts I shared above are much shorter than my first draft. Those who know me are used to seeing 15,000 word write ups of vapes I like. Then the next day, another one about heating methods. The next day another one... I'm a lot sometimes, feel free to block me if you don't like reading massive walls of text.
@TastefulGent all very good points, thank you.
I try not to spend too much time in the vape community these days. While I LOVE dry herb vaporising and everything that comes with it, particularly thermal extraction devices, I don't like getting caught up in all the hype. It isn't good for my health or my budget.
While I appreciate the openness of @asimrell and other makers who build in public, I do not have the bandwidth to watch all of these live streams. I found the initial release of The Simrell frustrating. The fact that it was unnamed before being called "The Simrell", made finding information about it more difficult than if it had a unique name. As a result, I disengaged and didn't follow the release other than watching a couple of short clips that came via email.
I wasn't going to buy this thing. I have a lot of vapes here and overall, all of my bases are covered. But I like supporting those who are pushing the industry forward and I've loved the products I've got from @asimrell in the past. So after reading the 39 five star reviews on the product page, I thought I'd give it a go.
I'm in Australia currently, so it's a $500 device. I know that this thread isn't the place for comparisons, but there are a lot of excellent vapes to be found at that price point, so already, expectations are very high. Personally, I'm not stressed about the money, but it does have an impact on how critically I review a product.
I'm definitely what you'd consider a seasoned user. But for various reasons, The Simrell didn't click with me. I put a gram or so through it yesterday and while some hits were good, overall I was disappointed compared to my usual vaporisers.
In regards to dexterity issues, yes, in my case, the design of The Simrell is definitely more problematic than other threaded devices. I appreciate that this won't be a problem for many, but I think it's important to discuss the negatives of a product as well as the positives. I'm sure that the aim here is to make a vaporiser that is accessible to all and I hope that my thoughts on this can help inform future development.
I appreciate first impressions and long term reviews. What I really like, is balanced reviews. I failed on this front yesterday by leaving an overly negative review on a product that I hadn't spent much time with. Unfortunately, as someone who lives with PTSD, I'm not always the best at controlling my emotions and unfortunately, at times, direct my own negative shit outwards. I'm not making excuses, just offering some perspective. That being said, I stand by my initial review. Just acknowledging that in an ideal world, I would have been much kinder in how I worded things.
I find it disappointing that my review hasn't been published. While it isn't positive or even necessarily fair, it is my review. It makes me question if the five star reviews shown are an accurate representation of the reviews that have been left. I don't like thinking like this... but lets face it, many of the reviews are overly positive. Some hilariously so.
In the past week, I've had two other, new to me, vapes arrive. Both are exceptional and have been from the first bowl. Will I like The Simrell more as time goes by? Yeah - I'm spending some time with it today and my views are slowly changing. That doesn't change the fact that it was a very disappointing introduction to something that's meant to be all that and more.
I'll share more thoughts here as I get used to the device. At this point, it's maybe gained another star.
And I'll update my review in the future, if it ever gets published...