Angus Enhanced

[seedy53]

@seedy53 looks sure that the fact it gets hotter on the outside is because the metal tube is not as good for insulation purposes than the previous material.
Maybe they have calibrated it again to compensate for the lack of heat retention in the tube (caused by the lower insulation)

Now I wonder what would happen if, inside the insulation tube, and around the inner tube, you put some silver collars (on the part of the balls and near the camera)

but outside is cooler to the touch

chillAtGVC i don't know, it works well though​

 

[TigoleBitties]

@kokolokokolokon I am pretty sure that was @TigoleBitties with the higher than expected temperatures.

@seedy53 The programming cable sets the target temperature for each level. The unit is off (not heating) when these are set so it can't read the actual temperature produced. But... if the stock temperatures have been reduced, then you should be getting more hits before exhaustion, not fewer. It should be a difference in the bits used to detect temperature vs the OG, or you could have gotten a defective unit.

Yeah that was me. I've got the new AE but I'm just back from vacation an haven't tried it out. I wouldn't be surprised if the new presets are different from what was originally advertised.

Has anyone opened it up yet to see what it looks like?

 

[seedy53]

Yeah that was me. I've got the new AE but I'm just back from vacation an haven't tried it out. I wouldn't be surprised if the new presets are different from what was originally advertised.

Has anyone opened it up yet to see what it looks like?

mike wrote back and said the presets should be the same. dang it, could you use that program cable and see what your new unit says?

 

[TigoleBitties]

Ok I'll try it out today hopefully.

 

[seedy53]

Ok I'll try it out today hopefully.

i have noticed that my new AE unit eats more power. i'm getting 1-5 min session per 1 battery bar section (per bowl). i get 4x5min. sessions before i need to charge with 20% power left. i used to get 6 or 7 sessions at level 3 on og AE model.

after i get feedback from @TigoleBitties i'll reprogram the new AE to og model settings.

as suggested, it may be a defective unit, however, without knowing what other units setting , it's just guessing it may be defective or yll adjusted it, even though Mike says they did not. hoping it's just a fluke.

 

[kokolokokolokon]

@TigoleBitties I talked about a guy who is not on FC. But i see there were more cases

 

[TigoleBitties]

i have noticed that my new AE unit eats more power. i'm getting 1-5 min session per 1 battery bar section (per bowl). i get 4x5min. sessions before i need to charge with 20% power left. i used to get 6 or 7 sessions at level 3 on og AE model.

after i get feedback from @TigoleBitties i'll reprogram the new AE to og model settings.

as suggested, it may be a defective unit, however, without knowing what other units setting , it's just guessing it may be defective or yll adjusted it, even though Mike says they did not. hoping it's just a fluke.

So here are the presets on my new unit : 175, 184, 193, 202, 210

Why are these values so different than what they publish? I don't think it's a big deal but the QC is strange. For those without the cable expecting the temperatures in the manual, they will likely be surprised.

 

[seedy53]

So here are the presets on my new unit : 175, 184, 193, 202, 210

Why are these values so different than what they publish? I don't think it's a big deal but the QC is strange. For those without the cable expecting the temperatures in the manual, they will likely be surprised.

again mine are
The Stock temps on programing heat temp setting Have been reduce 20c on all 5 settings by yll.
1-160c
2-170
3-180c
4-190c
5-200c

should be 180c through 220c

are you going to the og settings?

edit- i'd write mike and tell yours.. something is needing to be explained from the factory

 

[chillAtGVC]

@seedy53 Those are pretty much the temperatures that I have set mine to.

 

[TigoleBitties]

again mine are
The Stock temps on programing heat temp setting Have been reduce 20c on all 5 settings by yll.
1-160c
2-170
3-180c
4-190c
5-200c

should be 180c through 220c

are you going to the og settings?

Not sure what I'll do yet. Looks like my unit starts at 175 and goes up by 9 degrees roughly each setting. I'll do some burn offs and then see what those values feel like. I used to like having at least one low setting around 160C

 

[seedy53]

@seedy53 Those are pretty much the temperatures that I have set mine to.

yeah but my unit cooks hotter than og. weirding me out lol

edit- i'm going to do my ae at level 5 and see if it's like og 3 setting and going to get out the og for side by side cooking and compare as best i can. need to see if og is set at factory settings or not.

edit-2--- my og settings are 185, 195, 205, 215, 225c wtf

edit-3-- i set my new AE to The FACTORY Setting of 180c through 220c. i'll vape again after supper. i think there is no calibration going on.

 

[TigoleBitties]

So I just had my first bowl. No weird smells or tastes after 3 burnoffs at max temp. I like to blow through the oven from the bottom of the unit while it heats to simulate drawing through it.

That smooth halogen taste was still there. Very pure and soft. Great airflow, maybe better than I remember. Maybe 175 as a starting temp is low enough. The first few hits took a while to get visible vapor but were very terpy and nice. Still using the capsules and I pack them pretty tight.

 

[seedy53]

So I just had my first bowl. No weird smells or tastes after 3 burnoffs at max temp. I like to blow through the oven from the bottom of the unit while it heats to simulate drawing through it.

That smooth halogen taste was still there. Very pure and soft. Great airflow, maybe better than I remember. Maybe 175 as a starting temp is low enough. The first few hits took a while to get visible vapor but were very terpy and nice. Still using the capsules and I pack them pretty tight.

note- my p28a batteries only give me 4 or 5 bowls even on 190c @ level 2 settings. gesh, i'm stopping now.

 

[chillAtGVC]

Yeah, that doesn’t seem right at all.

 

[kokolokokolokon]

Maybe a defective unit

 

[seedy53]

Maybe a defective unit

it vapes well but eats my batts and it could be my batterys are going. they are 2+ years old. still does not explain units settings being all different than default factory setting

 

[TigoleBitties]

it vapes well but eats my batts and it could be my batterys are going. they are 2+ years old. still does not explain units settings being all different than default factory setting

Mine vapes well too but I haven't had enough bowls to say how long the batteries will last.

 

[kokolokokolokon]

it vapes well but eats my batts and it could be my batterys are going. they are 2+ years old. still does not explain units settings being all different than default factory setting

It would explain the battery life.

Maybe, with the rush to make the replacement units they had to rush the firmware settings/calibration too(?)
It wouldn’t explain the cases before the replacement but, at least would explain this one.

 

[seedy53]

my newer molicel p28b batteries work great in my new AE, back to normal.
so the older batts were the problem.
using actual og AE factory settings, my new AE does seem to run hotter. i run heat setting level-2 at 170c. instead of settings of 200c.at level 3.. i love this replacement AE but i loved the og version, too.
i can say, neither AE version triggers me an asthma attack. new AE feels cooler to touch at high heat.
my new Replacement AE do not rattle (side to side movement) when shaken.
OOPS!!
EDIT I run Level #2 at 190c, not 170c. My one eye is really letting me down. sry i stated the wrong temp. 7's looks like 9's to me when typing.

 

[seedy53]

The CEO wrote back about the temp adjusting software. Here is the quote:

"Hello

'I am sorry for the misunderstanding, the initial temperatures showing on the program are not actual temperatures. Please ignore the temperatures on it, just put the new temperatures you want to change to update.'

This program for temperature customization does not have the perfect page."

great for us who have Program USB cable but for those who don't, probably not so much.

edit1- i think the assumption is, even though the program reads it wrong, the units are set correctly from factory.

 

[TigoleBitties]

The CEO wrote back about the temp adjusting software. Here is the quote:

"Hello

'I am sorry for the misunderstanding, the initial temperatures showing on the program are not actual temperatures. Please ignore the temperatures on it, just put the new temperatures you want to change to update.'

This program for temperature customization does not have the perfect page."

great for us who have Program USB cable but for those who don't, probably not so much.

edit1- i think the assumption is, even though the program reads it wrong, the units are set correctly from factory.

If the initial temperatures shown are not correct, and they explicitly don't say what they are but instead say to "ignore them" and program your own, this leads me to believe that they don't know what the temperatures are on any given unit out there. If it's a very specific problem with the software reading the first values on every run incorrectly, then that should be explicitly said and a workaround explained.

I'm confused about this answer because it's too ambiguous about what the initial temperature actually are and it assumes that everyone has the cable. Doesn't make sense to me.

 

[chillAtGVC]

I read it as "the software does not read the temperatures at startup and instead displays canned suggestions". I don't recall that being the case the last time I programmed it. I will try to remember to test this out today.

 

[seedy53]

If the initial temperatures shown are not correct, and they explicitly don't say what they are but instead say to "ignore them" and program your own, this leads me to believe that they don't know what the temperatures are on any given unit out there. If it's a very specific problem with the software reading the first values on every run incorrectly, then that should be explicitly said and a workaround explained.

I'm confused about this answer because it's too ambiguous about what the initial temperature actually are and it assumes that everyone has the cable. Doesn't make sense to me.

it is very difficult to explain to someone who can only understand simple english. i think he is saying this software tool is buggy and not what is used at factory. my unit seems to work well and i can control the 5 heat settings and modify it with this so-so software. yll should update or explain what's actually going on. i doubt that will happen. i think yll are not inspired to correct it because they think whatever they do to improve the unit or software, it will never be enough. people are trying to break their back and that is a fact.


edit1-- i'm treating my unit as a precious, one of a kind, dhv that soon won't be made anymore.

 

[OceanBreeze]

I'm treating my OG AE as a once much loved vape that is now a brick and reminder to 1) buy from a reputable retailer and 2) be more wary of manufacturers claims and their build components. Loved that vape, it was my daily driver, but I am having a hell of a time getting a replacement. In my experience, YLL deserves the blow back with how fiberglass gate was handled. Sorry to be a negative Nancy....

 

[kokolokokolokon]

@seedy53 I think the same as you. There won't be many explanations about Angus calibration. They are still busy making replacement units and finishing the next project. .