Phase3 Vaporizers

[jbm]

Despite the calls for a wireless zx, I maintain we always keep a ZX wired in house regardless of other models produced. The wired ZX should remain the bread and butter of the phase3 product line

Hear hear. A wireless ZX would be a dog's balls solution. The ZX is perfect now as it is. I feel bad for Ryan in that he crated a niche and a vape that can't really be improved upon. It's great that there's actually a truly innovative vape that does microdosing well. There are plenty of lung cannons out there if you want them. I stand for the ZX, wires and all.

 

[Clapped_r6]

I've been secretly waiting for somebody to offload their wired zx for a friend - wired for me, I like the infinity heat

 

[invertedisdead]

Heads up gang, @Ed's TnT has been working overtime on the ZXXL handles but we've ran into a strange issue that appears to be recurring so thank you all kindly for your patience while we figure this out properly. I'll post more info when I have it.

Okay, thanks for the heads-up. If the ZXXL fits into the cold armored coil without any problems, then we should assume there won't be an issue, right?

Just to be safe (and for testing purposes), I've now also ordered a 25mm axial coil from AliExpress; surely one of them will fit the ZXXL.

If it moves in and out without binding up while cold I would expect it to be fine! Although you might need to run it at a higher temperature since you can't adjust the contact.

I finally get the time to write a few words about the ZX. I have had it for a few weeks now, but haven’t been able to use it as much as I would have wanted, vacation, family etc… nevertheless, I have been really amazed by this little beast, Plug and Play as it says ! And quite small with the heater and handle, it fits perfectly my Prophet.

So stoked to hear you're enjoying the ZX! Still my favorite vape for sure, appreciate my FC fam rocking with the Z Team!!

if anyone can make a zirconia wireless with minimal pid swing its @invertedisdead and i'm in on that! I'd also like to log a product request. There was talk about a year ago about TM stems in zirconia. they were pretty highly engineered. I would like to request just a simple straight zirconia tube for the tinymight. i would personally use it like the 55mm glass stem that wouldn't break when out. I would pick up an 80mm or whatever to play with too but all i really want is a durable tube for out and about. the ti gets too hot. i'm on the verge of ordering wood lol.

I had a bunch of plans to do different TM and Arizer stuff, some simple and some complex, but with all the cheap glass stems available now it didn't seem like there was quite as much demand for my zirconia designs. It's always super difficult to gauge the actual interest in any of my concepts, that's probably the main thing that keeps me from doing more projects.

This was a cool simple design I was planning to do last year for the TM2 and the Solo 3 but it never quite came to fruition.

TinyMight / TM 2

I just joined the club. Thanks vgoodiez.

fuckcombustion.com

But any of these parts could be rolled out pretty quickly if the interest was there.

Despite the calls for a wireless zx, I maintain we always keep a ZX wired in house regardless of other models produced. The wired ZX should remain the bread and butter of the phase3 product line

It's a good reminder because I often feel like perhaps I'm stagnating the brand by not constantly releasing new revisions and variants, but I truly don't feel there's much to improve on the Z's other than me improving the availability and making them easier for people to get ahold of.

I literally will be reserving/buying/craving a ZXL as soon as I'm aware they're available.

Hoping to move on that this week if the interest is still there! Appreciate everyone who has been waiting for another ZXL drop.

At this moment I don't think I'm going to do the smaller 16MM coil/bodied ZXL I was showing off / teasing though, I'm thinking just keep it simple like the original 20MM coil ZXL since everybody pretty much loved it just the way it was.
And keep the same internal diameter from the heater all the way through the bowl, just like the ZX and the original ZXL did.

 

[greenganja]

Heads up gang, @Ed's TnT has been working overtime on the ZXXL handles but we've ran into a strange issue that appears to be recurring so thank you all kindly for your patience while we figure this out properly. I'll post more info when I have it.

@invertedisdead Would that issue. be that the Ebony wood is splitting or cracking? This is an issue with Ebony Wood. The ebony wood color scheme wise would be the best match for the black ceramic. I like the cocobolo wood that Ed uses even though color wouldn't match as good as ebony wood. The cocobolo wood seems like it would be easier to work with and it wouldn't crack as easy as the ebony wood.

 

[Finweeder]

Hoping to move on that this week if the interest is still there! Appreciate everyone who has been waiting for another ZXL drop.

With the larger user base now who have the ZX's are all your first line of customers of the ZXL's who will sign up. The more people get one, the more public feedback will sustain more preorders, I'm optimistic about this.

 

[jbm]

With the larger user base now who have the ZX's are all your first line of customers of the ZXL's who will sign up. The more people get one, the more public feedback will sustain more preorders, I'm optimistic about this.

I don’t know if you can make that assumption. My ZX is pretty much the only ball vape I use anymore, because of its size. I’m not thinking “this would be improved by being bigger.” I have no need to buy a larger model.

 

[coolbreeze]

I don’t know if you can make that assumption. My ZX is pretty much the only ball vape I use anymore, because of its size. I’m not thinking “this would be improved by being bigger.” I have no need to buy a larger model.

I think it depends. The ZX is the right size for me but based on its strengths I ordered to ZXL to cover the occasional desire for a bigger hit. I still use the ZX 90% of the time but the ZXL is a fantastic vape, probably its equal. Many people will enjoy having more than one ball vape and if they love using the ZX, then the ZXL is an attractive choice for a bigger bang, giving them a daily driver and a weekender. But for those who are intrigued by the P3 mystique but want something bigger, the ZXL is the best ball vape they will find. I think that when it gets into more hands it will be seen as being as special as the ZX.

 

[Cheebsy]

I agree @coolbreeze the OG 20mm ZXL is a very special vape. Whilst I probably don't use it as much as my 2 smaller p3 heads I think it's my favourite so far. I use it less because the zx and z8 is so bloody efficient for every day usage.

 

[Fearless Disaster]

Despite the calls for a wireless zx, I maintain we always keep a ZX wired in house regardless of other models produced. The wired ZX should remain the bread and butter of the phase3 product line

I agree! I would reserve final judgement until i could compare the wireless to the wired, but the wired zx has never failed me when I needed it. I can't say the same about any of my current wireless ball vapes.

 

[coolbreeze]

I agree @coolbreeze the OG 20mm ZXL is a very special vape. Whilst I probably don't use it as much as my 2 smaller p3 heads I think it's my favourite so far. I use it less because the zx and z8 is so bloody efficient for every day usage.

The flavor is soooo good!

 

[Finweeder]

based on how I use the wired, wireless would slow me down, with me needing to reheat the heater, or im getting ripped and I slow down and leave the head on between hits, (I call it heat soaking) sounds like more work that I wouldn't like. But I can see other people being just fine and not have my issues. Ryan needs this positive feedback for the wired. Having the ZX, the ZXL, and the ZXXL already in house and selling is a good line-up. as ryan said, availability is the most important factor for sales.

 

[Fearless Disaster]

Heads up gang, @Ed's TnT has been working overtime on the ZXXL handles but we've ran into a strange issue that appears to be recurring so thank you all kindly for your patience while we figure this out properly. I'll post more info when I have it.





If it moves in and out without binding up while cold I would expect it to be fine! Although you might need to run it at a higher temperature since you can't adjust the contact.



So stoked to hear you're enjoying the ZX! Still my favorite vape for sure, appreciate my FC fam rocking with the Z Team!!



I had a bunch of plans to do different TM and Arizer stuff, some simple and some complex, but with all the cheap glass stems available now it didn't seem like there was quite as much demand for my zirconia designs. It's always super difficult to gauge the actual interest in any of my concepts, that's probably the main thing that keeps me from doing more projects.

This was a cool simple design I was planning to do last year for the TM2 and the Solo 3 but it never quite came to fruition.

TinyMight / TM 2

I just joined the club. Thanks vgoodiez.

fuckcombustion.com

But any of these parts could be rolled out pretty quickly if the interest was there.



It's a good reminder because I often feel like perhaps I'm stagnating the brand by not constantly releasing new revisions and variants, but I truly don't feel there's much to improve on the Z's other than me improving the availability and making them easier for people to get ahold of.



Hoping to move on that this week if the interest is still there! Appreciate everyone who has been waiting for another ZXL drop.

At this moment I don't think I'm going to do the smaller 16MM coil/bodied ZXL I was showing off / teasing though, I'm thinking just keep it simple like the original 20MM coil ZXL since everybody pretty much loved it just the way it was.
And keep the same internal diameter from the heater all the way through the bowl, just like the ZX and the original ZXL did.

Yep thats the stem i saw, i personally would try it if it was available, but since my needs would be met with a simple tube i wondered if that would get around some of the costs of launching a more complex product.

Regarding the ZXL, i missed the tease of the 16mm coiled one! While I already have a 16mm coil on the way, i could add a 20mm coil pretty easily to my setup and would rather have more thermal mass than i need then less. If I recall the ZXL was 18mm only right? i swapped all my 18mm gear for 14mm. Am I the only one with just 14mm gear? I have found that airflow depends much more on the head design and glass design than the joint size. I actually standardized on 14mm in anticipation of receiving my ZX because I found that screen diameter was a pretty big factor in how small I could dose. I keep a few 25mm wireless heavies around: Mercury / Shovelhead and Epitome / Vulcan. With a 14mm joint installed in the heads and the right piece (like a calypso) i wouldn't want any more airflow, especially at the expense of minimum load size.

P3 has been so good to me that i would consider buying an 18mm piece to use with a P3 wireless head or even to use an adaptor which seriously messes with my OCD I am wondering if it is worth it to poll the community for preferred joint sizes ahead of the next P3 wireless launch?

 

[coolbreeze]

Yep thats the stem i saw, i personally would try it if it was available, but since my needs would be met with a simple tube i wondered if that would get around some of the costs of launching a more complex product.

Regarding the ZXL, i missed the tease of the 16mm coiled one! While I already have a 16mm coil on the way, i could add a 20mm coil pretty easily to my setup and would rather have more thermal mass than i need then less. If I recall the ZXL was 18mm only right?

Yes, it only has an 18mm output.

i swapped all my 18mm gear for 14mm. Am I the only one with just 14mm gear? I have found that airflow depends much more on the head design and glass design than the joint size. I actually standardized on 14mm in anticipation of receiving my ZX because I found that screen diameter was a pretty big factor in how small I could dose. I keep a few 25mm wireless heavies around: Mercury / Shovelhead and Epitome / Vulcan. With a 14mm joint installed in the heads and the right piece (like a calypso) i wouldn't want any more airflow, especially at the expense of minimum load size.

The config Ryan's come up with fits about the same amount of the ZX (~.1g) as a screen-load. But it could hold a bit more.

P3 has been so good to me that i would consider buying an 18mm piece to use with a P3 wireless head or even to use an adaptor which seriously messes with my OCD I am wondering if it is worth it to poll the community for preferred joint sizes ahead of the next P3 wireless launch?

Not sure how the strongly the joint size interacts with the function, but I've gotten a couple pipes specifically to fit the ZXL, it's that good. I also don't mind using an adapter for it if necessary, as I too am pretty invested in 14mm joints as my standard. But if Ryan said changing the joint size would mess with perfection, I'd happily use it as I have been, mostly with my 18mm pipes but occasionally with an adapter.

 

[Cheebsy]

I only have 14mm except one hook that's 18. Sure I don't like the adapter, but it works and I can overlook it. Maybe a shortened adapter could be an option? The zxl is the same as the zx in that it uses a shortened standard taper so it would be possible to at least make the upper part of the adapter sit lower, but that adapter would work with zxl only probably.

 

[invertedisdead]

The upcoming ZXL will be available for preorder for the first time with custom zirconia chambers in both 18MM and 14MM terminations, or the option to receive both bowls (at a discount)

Pre order link incoming when I get updated pricing

Yep thats the stem i saw, i personally would try it if it was available, but since my needs would be met with a simple tube i wondered if that would get around some of the costs of launching a more complex product.

Yeah it would be a bit more affordable but I’m always trying to add as much tech value as I can.
Interest/demand is the most important factor because if more people want something I can buy more and offer better pricing!

I don’t know if you can make that assumption. My ZX is pretty much the only ball vape I use anymore, because of its size. I’m not thinking “this would be improved by being bigger.” I have no need to buy a larger model.

A lot of ZX owners appreciate it specifically for the efficiency so I think it's true that not every ZX owner is going to be a ZXL customer, but it is also true that nearly every ZXL buyer is a ZX owner!

@invertedisdead Would that issue. be that the Ebony wood is splitting or cracking? This is an issue with Ebony Wood. The ebony wood color scheme wise would be the best match for the black ceramic. I like the cocobolo wood that Ed uses even though color wouldn't match as good as ebony wood. The cocobolo wood seems like it would be easier to work with and it wouldn't crack as easy as the ebony wood.

There was a bit of concern that that could be an issue but so far no problems there!
Will report more on this shortly, thanks so much for your cooperation friends!

 

[PurpleHaze1911]

Standing by for ZXL preorder info.

 

[Fearless Disaster]

Yes, it only has an 18mm output.

The config Ryan's come up with fits about the same amount of the ZX (~.1g) as a screen-load. But it could hold a bit more.

Not sure how the strongly the joint size interacts with the function, but I've gotten a couple pipes specifically to fit the ZXL, it's that good. I also don't mind using an adapter for it if necessary, as I too am pretty invested in 14mm joints as my standard. But if Ryan said changing the joint size would mess with perfection, I'd happily use it as I have been, mostly with my 18mm pipes but occasionally with an adapter.

oh if the zxl can handle similar loads to the zx then this is a nonissue. I hope the zxl bowl comes with a micro setting! I usually load 25-50mg in the zx bowl. 25 leaves some screen showing, 50 is nice and full.

The upcoming ZXL will be available for preorder for the first time with custom zirconia chambers in both 18MM and 14MM terminations, or the option to receive both bowls (at a discount)

Pre order link incoming when I get updated pricing




Yeah it would be a bit more affordable but I’m always trying to add as much tech value as I can.
Interest/demand is the most important factor because if more people want something I can buy more and offer better pricing!



A lot of ZX owners appreciate it specifically for the efficiency so I think it's true that not every ZX owner is going to be a ZXL customer, but it is also true that nearly every ZXL buyer is a ZX owner!



There was a bit of concern that that could be an issue but so far no problems there!
Will report more on this shortly, thanks so much for your cooperation friends!

wow on the 14! i'm in

 

[Axel_420]

The upcoming ZXL will be available for preorder for the first time with custom zirconia chambers in both 18MM and 14MM terminations, or the option to receive both bowls (at a discount)

Will it change only the bowl joint or also the actual size of the lower screen?

 

[buzzardwhiskey]

Is there an "end game" holder/stand for the wired ZX? I really dislike the bent metal variants, or coffee cups, or ash trays.

 

[invertedisdead]

Will it change only the bowl joint or also the actual size of the lower screen?

No they are two different bowls.

The 18MM / 18MM is the same as the original ZXL bowl. Maybe with an alteration or two.

The 18MM / 14MM bowl is the new one I designed for the 16MM body ZXL concept I was teasing around. This one does use a smaller screen than the 18MM bowl above.

Is there an "end game" holder/stand for the wired ZX? I really dislike the bent metal variants, or coffee cups, or ash trays.

If there’s enough interest from the ZTEAM I’ve got a sleek minimal ZX / ZXL stand design I’ve been wanting to do for a while that we could launch too. I’m away from my computer at the moment but I can post it when I’m back home.

I hope the zxl bowl comes with a micro setting! I usually load 25-50mg in the zx bowl. 25 leaves some screen showing, 50 is nice and full.

The 18MM bowl has two screen shelves but the top shelf in the ZXL is larger than the top shelf in the ZX as the bowl is larger / holds more volume.

The 14MM bowl only has one screen position right now as it’s got a tapered interior to hold more volume.

Potentially a second, higher shelf could be added above to hold a larger screen, but the idea was even with this larger volume / capacity, by tapering down to a smaller ZX screen it should still work well with smaller amounts.

 

[Fearless Disaster]

Is there an "end game" holder/stand for the wired ZX? I really dislike the bent metal variants, or coffee cups, or ash trays.

I use a CH hanger stand with a titanium SKO heatpost. The heat post is currently on fire sale at oconnell woodworks for $12, so if you want to go this route you might consider grabbing one while they last. the fit is a little tight, but it hasn't bothered me enough to modify the heatpost. This setup works so well that i just move the hot zx around by grabbing the heatshield, which is only warm:

https://imgur.com/a/iJ0Skok

No they are two different bowls.

The 18MM / 18MM is the same as the original ZXL bowl. Maybe with an alteration or two.

The 18MM / 14MM bowl is the new one I designed for the 16MM body ZXL concept I was teasing around. This one does use a smaller screen than the 18MM bowl above.



If there’s enough interest from the ZTEAM I’ve got a sleek minimal ZX / ZXL stand design I’ve been wanting to do for a while that we could launch too. I’m away from my computer at the moment but I can post it when I’m back home.



The 18MM bowl has two screen shelves but the top shelf in the ZXL is larger than the top shelf in the ZX as the bowl is larger / holds more volume.

The 14MM bowl only has one screen position right now as it’s got a tapered interior to hold more volume.

Potentially a second, higher shelf could be added above to hold a larger screen, but the idea was even with this larger volume / capacity, by tapering down to a smaller ZX screen it should still work well with smaller amounts.

Oh this sounds perfect! i should have known you had it all figured out!

Also, if anyone is interested i have been contacting various artisans for a zx handle. @Ed's TnT is the one that came through. They are making me a 2" coil handle for the ZX out of blackwood.

 

[invertedisdead]

Do you guys prefer these stands with the heat shields?

I tend to like something more simple and minimal but if everyone prefers the extra safety of a full shroud that could be accounted for.

 

[howie105]

Adding something that might keep me from burning myself. No Way, I need that possibility to get rolling in the morning when I wake and bake.

 

[buzzardwhiskey]

Do you guys prefer these stands with the heat shields?

I tend to like something more simple and minimal but if everyone prefers the extra safety of a full shroud that could be accounted for.

Yes, I prefer a stand with shroud.

I have a curious but not terribly smart cat. But my opinion does not a market make.

 

[PurpleHaze1911]

Yes, I prefer a stand with shroud.

I have a curious but not terribly smart cat. But my opinion does not a market make.

Stand with shroud