The Tempest by Mad Heaters & Phatpiggie

vaporo

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This isn't an attempt to police the thread. But I would sincerely find a seperate thread on the tariff issue to be helpful and interesting. It's something that is clearly going to affect our hobby, and the small creators within it.
Totally agree. See my last post. Its borderline hijacking the thread and the excitement. And great point, MH is not the only company facing this issue in the dhv community.

Mods, can we make a thread for US tariff concerns? This will be a long road and starting it now would be great.
 
Man.. I am SO pumped for this vape, but don't know if I can justify more than $100 extra for any tariff BS. Really hope it stays $25 per parcel!!

The worst part is not knowing for another month+.. If it's not coming, then I'd purchase a Simrell or Tornado instead, as soon as they're available. Whereas if the Tempest 2 does come thru, then I don't want any other devices.. But would REALLY hate to miss out on the next restock of Simrell/Tornado, only to be screwed by tariffs and not get Tempest either. Beyond frustrating.

At least I can proudly say I was NOT one of the Americans who voted for this mess!

Shoot man $100 sounds low at this point if 145% is the number everyone is throwing around in the news
 

Octavia

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Totally agree. See my last post. Its borderline hijacking the thread and the excitement. And great point, MH is not the only company facing this issue in the dhv community.

Mods, can we make a thread for US tariff concerns? This will be a long road and starting it now would be great.
There’s already one that’s pretty active:


Edit: also this one, but refers to the most recent batch of tariffs by the mango’s preferred name for them:

 
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tokefox

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I apologize for continuing the tariff topic, but I would just like to add to the voices asking @Brenyo to please consider allowing US customers to pre-pay any tariff costs as necessary.

As someone who tried so hard to convince people to support the other political option, things like the release of the Tempest 2 are a ray of light in a dark and depressing time. It sounds a bit much, I know, but eh...

I will gladly cover any costs, and I'd even be happy to pay a fee for the service of estimating the tariff and allowing me to pay it.

Apologies again to all, I know this discussion must be annoying to those less directly affected.
 

giianiii

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While were all here waiting maybe someone has a tip for me. Im enjoying a tempest with a revolve stem and the wood sleeve. After a few days of use the thing gets really clogged. Is there something i can do to prevent this? Im using the helix tube and the mouthpiece airflow setting is on DTL(fully open).
 
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I apologize for continuing the tariff topic, but I would just like to add to the voices asking @Brenyo to please consider allowing US customers to pre-pay any tariff costs as necessary.
I think one of the problems is that we don't even definitively know what the tariff will actually be to get it into the hands of US buyers. I'm sure @Brenyo has taken notice that many here in FC are willing to pay the tariff, but also consider we're in a forum specifically for fans of DHV, and even more specifically, the Tempest thread. That likely skews our perspective on how many people are actually willing to pay the potentially large tariff that may be added to the cost to get the T2 in our hands.

Regardless, expect this tariff bullshit to be a stickier mess than what the inside of my T2 will be after having it for a week.
 

Logo

Well-Known Member
While were all here waiting maybe someone has a tip for me. Im enjoying a tempest with a revolve stem and the wood sleeve. After a few days of use the thing gets really clogged. Is there something i can do to prevent this? Im using the helix tube and the mouthpiece airflow setting is on DTL(fully open).
If you're using the revolve stem with the screen at the top of the cooling unit, remove it. I was adamant about using it for a long while then I decided to try it would it and there was essentially no difference except that it didn't get clogged as quick. It actually hasn't ever fully clogged on me since. I use mine on the closed air flow and fully open air flow on the tempest head. Heated with the wand at 260-280 celcius, depending on wand battery. The thing hits like a beast. So excited for my tempest 2 pre order
 
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Brenyo

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I apologize for continuing the tariff topic, but I would just like to add to the voices asking @Brenyo to please consider allowing US customers to pre-pay any tariff costs as necessary.
I’m not set up to be able to accept pre-payments, so the tariff would need to be paid at customs.

I won’t cancel anyone’s order without prior notice. I currently plan to wait until next weekend to see if there’s any change or more clarity, then send out a newsletter with some options. DPD told me there’s no flat-rate tariff (??), and it’s approximately 152.5% overall.

If all goes well, I can start fulfilling a few orders on the UK site over the next week (non-US orders only). The EU store situation is a bit unclear and depends on customs, I expect shipping to start around the middle of the month. If there’s a change in the next few days, US orders will start shipping as well. All US orders could arrive before the end of this month if there is indeed a flat-rate tariff and it increases further from June.
 

jbm

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DPD told me there’s no flat-rate tariff (??), and it’s approximately 152.5% overall.
So it’s not a flat 25 fee and is indeed the price we paid x1.5? Roughly 375 USD additional?making this about 610 USD all told?
 
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jaanky

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DPD told me there’s no flat-rate tariff (??), and it’s approximately 152.5% overall.
wtf???
So it’s not a flat 25 fee and is indeed the price we paid x1.5? Roughly 375 USD additional?making this about 610 USD all told?
I might have dealt some misinformation on this -- there was an outdated "Fact Sheet' (great name) that provided $25/$50 figures for May and June. An Executive Order superseded this, changing it to $100/$200 flat fees per parcel valued at or under $800 imported via USPS.

Now, apparently, it's even more than the 145% worst case scenario? Worse worst case?? This is wild haha. Can't help but laugh at the absurdity of it all. I want to believe things will shake out, the universe compromises at $100 for now, and we have these things in our hands before June.
 
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So it’s not a flat 25 fee and is indeed the price we paid x1.5? Roughly 375 USD additional?making this about 610 USD all told?

That's honestly what I'm gearing up for and expecting unfortunately. The only real hope I have of not paying a roughly 150% tariff is that by the time we have to make this decision, there has been enough backlash to unwind or reduce the tariffs. But I really don't expect that to happen, not in time anyway. The way I see it, we should prepare for the worst case scenario and then if it's not as bad as we expected, we'll just enjoy our new devices even more
 

jbm

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That's honestly what I'm gearing up for and expecting unfortunately. The only real hope I have of not paying a roughly 150% tariff is that by the time we have to make this decision, there has been enough backlash to unwind or reduce the tariffs. But I really don't expect that to happen, not in time anyway. The way I see it, we should prepare for the worst case scenario and then if it's not as bad as we expected, we'll just enjoy our new devices even more
25$ additional is one thing, I’m not sure I can justify an additional tariff more than the actual cost of the item itself. I’m a loyal customer, and I don’t blame @Brenyo at all, but that’s just too much money. I’m thinking that this “point of origin” stuff is going to wreak havoc on the vape industry.
 
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mcscruffy

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That's honestly what I'm gearing up for and expecting unfortunately. The only real hope I have of not paying a roughly 150% tariff is that by the time we have to make this decision, there has been enough backlash to unwind or reduce the tariffs. But I really don't expect that to happen, not in time anyway. The way I see it, we should prepare for the worst case scenario and then if it's not as bad as we expected, we'll just enjoy our new devices even more

It's been covered in the last couple of pages so this is my last comment related to the tariffs, but 150% is on top of the retail value for items with China as the manufacture country of origin. So the roughly $250 I paid will be subject to potentially $375 in tariffs ON TOP of the $250.

$625 all in. Not ideal by any means but not altogether a deal breaker, mainly because I've worked hard to get to a high paying role the last couple of years and it's not painful at all like it would have been in the past. Still, hopefully just waiting it out a bit allows things to settle and this becomes a non-issue.
 
25$ additional is one thing, I’m not sure I can justify an additional tariff more than the actual cost of the item itself. I’m a loyal customer, and I don’t blame @Brenyo at all, but that’s just too much money. I’m thinking that this “point of origin” stuff is going to wreak havoc on the vape industry.
I totally understand where you're coming from. Even though I can spare the money, it's a bitter pill to swallow.

It's been covered in the last couple of pages so this is my last comment related to the tariffs, but 150% is on top of the retail value for items with China as the manufacture country of origin. So the roughly $250 I paid will be subject to potentially $375 in tariffs ON TOP of the $250.

$625 all in. Not ideal by any means but not altogether a deal breaker, mainly because I've worked hard to get to a high paying role the last couple of years and it's not painful at all like it would have been in the past. Still, hopefully just waiting it out a bit allows things to settle and this becomes a non-issue.

That's essentially where I'm at. My job isn't crazy high pay but I save money so I can afford to do things like this on a whim if it's what I decide I want to do. I really don't want to pay that high of a tariff but I will if I need to
 

HashOnMyMind

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The EU store situation is a bit unclear and depends on customs, I expect shipping to start around the middle of the month.
What does this mean exactly? Don’t get me wrong —I feel bad for the Americans who voted for Kamala (not so much for the rest, to be honest; they did it to themselves after being warned a thousand times). But MadHeaters is a European company, and as an EU customer I really hope whatever’s going on in the US has no bearing on EU or other international customers.

So, I hope we can get back on the hype train and talk about the Tempest V2.
I’m guessing the lack of pictures or videos is why people drift into other topics.

Anyway, I’m super hyped, and it’s getting harder to go another day without the Tempest V2!! :rockon:
 

delta hotel

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Just got off the phone and all shipments to my residence are TARIFF FREE, so feel free to send mine along whenever you see fit (soon, this is a limited time offer!)
 
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