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pakalolo

Toolbag v1.1 (candidate)
Staff member
Glorg's facts are right. Your post is still up. I'll take the point to demonstrate that you explicitly lied by claiming that Glorg was "some stoner on the internet" when they literally quoted the post you typed. It isn't even taken out of context--simply quoting something of yours. If calling out blatant lies by moderators gets me points or kicked off the forum, then I will happily pick up and go.

If my calling attention to power abuses counts as "a little nastiness", I would welcome someone to educate me on how best to address objectively-false claims made by those in power, as I don't believe I've included any direct personal attacks and have exclusively worked to call out the particular behavior in question rather than the person. Staff works hard to create a safe environment for us, and I feel they dropped the ball on this issue, and those behaviors require correction for community trust to be rebuilt.

As for this thread: how utterly insane would you have to be to still buy one of these devices? The community surfaced a series of problems related to YLLVape including falsifying certifications and potential material safety issues, and in this very thread you have several folks who are being ghosted while attempting to get (often legally-required) refunds from the company. They haven't addressed their material safety certifications at all and at this point I wouldn't trust any teardown videos posted by YLL since we've seen a blatant willingness to lie about internal safety measures. They never addressed the Conformité Européenne certification that is claimed on their devices and which is alleged to be faked (and seemingly has no real verification). They never addressed some of the unspecified materials, nor did they address several users asking about a recall since it is now known that the device is potentially unsafe for consumer use.

For anyone on the fence and hoping for a teardown video from YLL: all I can say is your health is in your hands. If you feel comfortable potentially inhaling fiberglass fibers and who-knows-what-else that may result from other unknown materials, you are welcome to patronize this company. Many folks still smoke cigarettes (including me again lately), and I would argue that consumerism is similarly addictive to nicotine, so I understand how an addiction can lead people to make ill-informed decisions for their own health. Slainte and I wish you the best.

I did not lie, you (and @Glorg) misinterpreted the facts. Nobody asked me to close the thread, as I've explained several times over. Mike asked me to keep it locked until he could deal with it, but I would have done that anyway. There is a big difference.

The nastiness had nothing to do with me, it was members attacking one another. Read the thread.

Oh and @Glorg really is a stoner on the internet. So are you and so am I.
 

bellona0544

Well-Known Member
Point of fact: The "fiberglass" is NOT in the air path, it is wrapped around the air path. That is a significant difference.
My mistake! So sorry--the company sold us products with fiberglass that could easily get into the airpath as demonstrated by several posters in this very thread. Huge, dramatic difference. Like, the difference between intentionally shooting someone in the face and just spraying bullets toward a crowd and being surprised when one hits someone.
 

Octavia

No thoughts, head empty
why did you remove all reactions on your post?
How many did you see before? I only see one from glorg, and I definitely haven’t had any weed yet today. I assume the others asked to delete their account or removed their react?
 
Octavia,

pakalolo

Toolbag v1.1 (candidate)
Staff member
How many did you see before? I only see one from glorg, and I definitely haven’t had any weed yet today. I assume the others asked to delete their account or removed their react?

For the information of those concerned: moderators cannot remove reactions from a post, even their own. The only one who can remove or change a reaction is the person who made it. Can we please get back on topic?
 
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