GlassWindows
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Tornado native stems available from Vestratto now.
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Tornado by Vestratto
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Cacahuates
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Just saw this.
If they only had wood! I like the anvil stems (xl mp is a must). Wood looks cooler in my opinion. Hopefully they add it as an option in the future.
I'm eager to see what the cooling is like with this hand cannon of a vape.
I do care about flavour. I have some very tasty vapes. I don't use Tornado for that though. I use different vapes depending on what I want. I hope that clears up your confusion.Isn't it funny how it's always the people who don't care about flavor who are claiming the Anvil and Tornado underperform in that area?
hotmeals
Serial vapist
Then why did you say "I don't care about terps"?
Maybe you should try that before forming an opinion on it.
The context of the post I replied to explains that. It was mentioned that the Wand kills the terps more and doesn't taste as good. I said I don't care about that, I care more about potency.
I've used the Tornado a tonne, and I do have an opinion. My opinion is that I have other vapes that taste better, so I don't use the Tornado when my priority is flavour. If this offends you, it's a you problem. I think the Tornado is great. I have other great vapes as well, and I use them all for different reasons, due to a different profile of strengths and weaknesses. I don't do this one vape to rule them all tribal football team nonsense, so please miss me with that fella.
PrematureEvaporation
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Don’t bother explaining yourself man. I knew what you meant, it’s a very simple point to grasp regardless of whether the reader might agree with it or not.
Usually when someone is cropping a few words or sentences of your overall point and typing in a combative tone they’re just cruising for an argument rather than a discussion.
Not all dogs that come up with a tennis ball deserve it thrown back lol
Cacahuates
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The wand kill terps? I've noticed I get some very tastey hits if I torch it slow and low. Does the wand's default consistent heating diminish terps?
Love
seems to be a lot of squabbling over nothing everywhere lately. Just the facts ma'am.
Love
hotmeals
Serial vapist
Right. So you don't care as much about flavor, you already had the idea that the Tornado doesn't produce good flavor before trying it, now that you have it you aren't trying to get good flavor out of it, and you're saying flavor is not one of its strengths.
I don't either. I don't know why you keep saying that. No one is doing that.
Which other words should I have included? I quoted the relevant part. He even explained it further and basically said the same thing. To me it seems like I interpreted what he said correctly.
PrematureEvaporation
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Comfortably Numb
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Thats a very untrue statement to make...anybody that reads that should disregard
Tornado tastes much better than I expected actually. It tastes much better than the Anvil as well.
I have better tasting vapes which I use when flavour is my main concern. I like the Tornado for it's potency and signature. So diminishing flavour with a heating method is not of concern to me. That is subjective, but then it was never presented as anything other than that.
I hope this clarifies. You might be biting onto something that just isn't there.
hotmeals
Serial vapist
I'm just presenting my contrasting subjective opinion so readers can see that there are other users that own a bunch of tasty vapes who do think flavor is one of the Tornado's strengths.
leanpubpackage
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1.) do you like using the vape? If yes, continue using.
2.) are you high enough yet? If no, vape more
2.) are you high enough yet? If no, vape more
HoodiesAndHondas
Active Member
If we’re talking 1 heat up with the torch and 1 heat up with the Wand, those results are understandable.
But me personally, someone who always likes to bring my ABV to a dark tobacco color, I get an even darker roast than your torch session. But I do reheats in my Wand. 525F til timeout for the cold start, rip on it, then 10-12 blinks for reheats, then pull til the vapor stops, then go again. I do 3 reheats, and end up with a dark tobacco color.
I guess that could be another point to consider when choosing an IH. It takes me 4 total heat ups to get the dark roast I like. Maybe a stronger IH will do it in less. But I’m never in a rush when I’m in a session, so I don’t mind.
HoodiesAndHondas
Active Member
Eh, not a fan of the looks personally. Looks like I’ll have to wait for Scruffy to make some more adapters.So the T-Stem is available now. It seems to be pretty much the same thing that I tinkered
But I’m glad there’s at least another stem on the market that doesn’t need an adapter. I wonder if the Tornado will ever be popular enough for stems for more companies to make stems that fit without an adapter.
HoodiesAndHondas
Active Member
I follow Lee’s method to a T, and get great results and the dark ABV I spoke of, doing the 3 reheats. Make sure the depth is correct. I’m using the Dynavap adapter insert, unlike him though. But I copied his depth; divots on the head basically flush with the top of the Wand.
I’ve had my tornado for 2 weeks now. I have only used it with a TSWooden stem and I’m happy with this setup.
How do you find the cooling with a close to full bowl?
My tornado was happy to see me when I got home today, so I decided to rip it 
Also picked the tornado integrated stem, but I 100% wouldn't have if i didn't already have spare mouthpieces and heatshields, along with a coupon code from shipping the v1 forge in. Ill report in once it arrives.
Also picked the tornado integrated stem, but I 100% wouldn't have if i didn't already have spare mouthpieces and heatshields, along with a coupon code from shipping the v1 forge in. Ill report in once it arrives.
Cooling works well for me. Vapor never gets uncomfortably hot. The stem included an inter cooler and stays relatively cool to the touch during usage, my Tempest Wood sleep on a revolve gen 2 CU gets much hotter after 2 sessions with the wand.
I mostly use a full bowl and heat only with the wand over 2 sessions, I usually let it completely cool down between sessions. 1st session 5 seconds after the click, second session just a second or 2 or I risk combusting (happened a few times)
Not related to cooling but I appreciate that I can store this setup in the xl vestratto storage tube, very convenient. (The TSWooden sleeve on my anvil is too wide to fit the storage tube)
coolbreeze
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Mine just came but without the intercooler so it's a little challenging at the moment, but it's a beautiful stem, for sure.
Do you think it would suit people who like to do single hit extractions, to a dark roast? I feel like it might just not have enough cooling for that.
TigoleBitties
Big and Bouncy
I've tried the Tornado on the BFG stem with Scruffy's adapter and it's nice and quite cool, although I don't try OHEs with it. You could probably do it but not all in one draw? It's subjective. It's certainly nice for a leisurely multiple heat-up session.
This glass-interior lined aluminum pipe I fitted with a 14mm reducer as an adapter for the Tornado (silicone keeps the adapter wedged in place) is probably the best portable and (somewhat) rugged setup I've tried that still has great cooling
This glass-interior lined aluminum pipe I fitted with a 14mm reducer as an adapter for the Tornado (silicone keeps the adapter wedged in place) is probably the best portable and (somewhat) rugged setup I've tried that still has great cooling
General Disaster
Stationary momentum!
There's an app for that...
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