That’s a combo I haven’t seen yet!
Yup
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And maybe the extra mm wouldn't have done wonders for less restriction, but it certainly wouldn't have hurt it either.
Not nearly soon enough!
i am active in the EE and CC discords. for both the latest batch of tempests and tornados someone in there sounded the alarm. for the tempest they were sold out 30 min later. the tornados lasted a few days i think, but i still got the alert as soon as they went on sale. Another option!
For me the Forge may be more powerful, but way too expensive for what you get(remember Vestratto doesn’t give a warranty, you are relying on them for repair/replacement at their goodwill if you have a problem) as it’s basically a prototype device.
I’ve admittedly never used a Forge, but have been using my Tornado in the Wand. They work great together. I use Lee from Tabletop Bong’s method; Tornado inserted so the divots on the head are level with the top of the Wand, 525F until timeout for the cold start, then 10-12 blinks for reheats (and I do 3 reheats which leaves my ABV at a nice dark roast).
I've got a Wand. And I have sworn an oath never again to buy electronics from Vestratto. I bought the Inductor, because it's my conviction that the Tornado likes lots of energy and the Wand can't deliver that. That's why the Forge is can deliver lots of power. I like Inductor's spot heating and how robust and simple it is (and the little tray, I like the little tray) but it's entirely manual so there's a learning curve. If I were to compare between the Wand and high power induction heaters like Forge and Inductor, I'd say that Wand is underpowered. Tornado shines when it gets hot, fast.
I' ve found, completely counterintuitively, that you can get very terpy hits out of Tornado by heating agressively. Long slow heating doesn't get you that. It's what the Tornado was designed for imo.
Like I said I don’t have the Tornado yet.
More powerful than the Wand with 120W max and uses 3 18650s.
Stand up version of the Wand that has optional bubbler, but is basically the same electronically.
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I don't doubt that aggressive heating gets you terpy hits, and the Inductor and the Forge have the Wand beat in terms of power and heating times. But I disagree with the statement that you can't get terpy hits with "slow" heating. I'm not sure if by "slow" you specifically meant the Wand but I can get what I consider terpy hits by heating only the atomizer section with the Wand until just before the click.
Yeah, I hope people don’t read that post and see “underpowered” and think the Wand isn’t a good match for the Tornado. I think saying it’s “underpowered” is a bit much, personally. To me, that would make it seem like it can’t perform well with the Tornado, which is 100% untrue. We’re talking 30 seconds from cold to timeout, using the Wand with Tabletop Bong’s method at 525F.
I do mean underpowered. I use the Wand too, if I have to. But the vapor signature of a high power induction heater is incomparable with what you get with the Wand (and too much faffing, imo). That's why Vestratto built the Forge. It's not about "faster", it's about "more energy". I have experience with both Wand and the Inductor. I can compare.
I think the Tornado is terrible with the wand. I don't care about terps either. Flavour isn't the Tornados strong point anyway. It's just that when using it with the wand, potency drops off a cliff compared to a powerful torch.
I think the whole "underpowered" thing is hard to defend. There are not many vaporizers powered electrically by battery, whether using induction or not, that can vaporize a 0.2g load completely in < 30sec. The Wand can do this with the Tornado and amongst TEDs that's probably the fastest to OHE with the Wand outside of perhaps the Camouflet CXL.
Also, if you're finding that "flavor isn't a strong point" of the Tornado, I can categorically say that hasn't been my experience.
