do all vape taste shite??

[drgreen]

i dont want biast or in denial reviews, ive met somany people sware by their vapes saying its terpy as and tastes just like it smells, to fidn them horrible,
ive had now 8 my last was a £300 pax3 which was bloody awful, draw resistance was like blowing a baloon up in reverse or you know when u stick the straw to thebottom of the thick shake and it wont move? thats a pax3

the taste is minimal, maybe hashy/dab like no matter what you use! cheese dawg blues trainwreck, you cant tell the difference,
ive been through volcanoes, and ive had the ssv , ive done a good load now and i cant find any that keep me from smokin,

the mrs hates me for spendin somuch on them only to throw em in a draw, i really want 1 that works for me like others have,

im a medical and rec smoker, i am bob marleys cousin, i dont go anywhere without 2 joints inmy gob,
i smoke 10grams aday, around 35 joints, hooraa that me thats my life, i love to be high have been for 35years and intend on being there on out,
but ido want to drop tobacco, and vape ,

i looked at the omnicap and as i went to buy it i was told that it is flavourless and is not good, now that shit looked good im gutted

 

[Shit Snacks]

What are the other vapes you tried? bc Pax does not have top marks for taste, or efficiency or power... Nor does dynavap in my experience... Look for pure convection on demand with glass stem chamber / vapor path (ie Tinymight) (also think many would say Vapman has better flavor for conduction, IQ2 pretty decent, xmax v3pro ok for budget)

 

[darkstar72]

How about a desktop convection vape? Through a bong.

 

[drgreen]

What are the other vapes you tried? bc Pax does not have top marks for taste, or efficiency or power... Nor does dynavap in my experience... Look for pure convection on demand with glass stem chamber / vapor path (ie Tinymight) (also think many would say Vapman has better flavor for conduction, IQ2 pretty decent, xmax v3pro ok for budget)

done a small mighty was a gas filled cheap crap thing that never wanted to light and puffed for england haha no temp settings.
guessing that different to the bigger models from them ?
, a blue meany, a whip by plenty tasted like plastic lol mighta needed a clean was 2nd hand . and a few cheap shits like the snoop dawg vape haha .

id go desctop but i work outside woodwork alot so i need sumin in me gob lol,
desctop n bong at night maybe, but hope the vape can do both ?

oh wow u say the dynas shit for flavour is encouragement, i expected to get ''its amazing'' the pax... every review page online says its stil top 5 and most popular haha , that makes me loose faith alot cause its bloody crap,

gona good the other names u said, keep the info comin

 

[Shit Snacks]

done a small mighty was a gas filled cheap crap thing that never wanted to light and puffed for england haha no temp settings.

Iolite? Wispr? Or the Puffit inhaler??

guessing that different to the bigger models from them ?
, a blue meany, a whip by plenty tasted like plastic lol mighta needed a clean was 2nd hand . and a few cheap shits like the snoop dawg vape haha .

Haha I don't know what that is, but yeah there's a lot of old crappy whip style desktops I wouldn't use today, and anything g-pen is crap imo

id go desctop but i work outside woodwork alot so i need sumin in me gob lol,
desctop n bong at night maybe, but hope the vape can do both ?

Dude it's tricky because of your location, but you can check since there's definitely availability for some of these, need to look up log vapes (and similar style) including:
Toasty-Top Heat Island
E-nano
Underdog
Homegrown Logs (Misty Log)
CouchLog
Musa
Cloud Connoisseur Halo & Atlas

Check the plugin section here, and skim these threads, they all taste amazing and are very efficient and work incredibly well for what you describe so it's a no-brainer (tinymight does kind of work similar for a portable and also has some wood but it sounds like you really need a log or cloud connoisseur!)

Dreamwood is another one worth looking up for you, sticky bricks is great but more available in the US, dreamwood have a 510 option that connects to a mod for pure convection though I think the flavor is better if you use their torch driven pure convection vapes...

oh wow u say the dynas shit for flavour is encouragement, i expected to get ''its amazing'' the pax... every review page online says its stil top 5 and most popular haha , that makes me loose faith alot cause its bloody crap,

Haha yeah I mean for me dynavap it's just a novelty knot at all something very useful, personally, there's a lot of love for it, but yeah far from top tier imo... And yeah Pax is the classic example of overrated overpriced mainstream garbage, you can't trust online reviews, it's a good thing you finally found us here to get the real info!

gona good the other names u said, keep the info comin

Lamart is another good company, the Tetra vapes are extremely hard to get though, however he also makes a torch driven one called Piro that is very nice and simple to drop on a bong!

All this pure convection, using glass chambers and vapor paths, wood bodies for the vape itself looking good, yeah this is what you want, amazing flavor and great effects! Enjoy your research here, our pleasure to help, welcome to FC, good luck making a decision on which one

 

[FlyingLow]

So long as you continue to smoke, you will never experience flavor the way most on this forum do.

It is the awful truth. Your pallet will change notably after 4-6 weeks of exclusive vaping/no combustion.

 

[Chicken No Name]

10g per day. That's impressive. Can I assume you grow being UK based?
If so, I suggest looking into pressing. Rosin can give you a real good flavour that differs from variety to variety. I find the difference more distinctive than vaping flower.
It's also another thing to keep mind and hands busy and provide alternatives to smoking.

Wrt the dynavap. I used to be a fairly heavy toker and find the DV really helps. It's the muscle memory of holding a spliff in hand and mouth.
I find the flavour can be excellent when used correctly (I favour the induction heater but others prefer the torch). It also gives you that harshness on following hits that can recreate a hit from a spliff.
But a decent desktop wil also be required for the heavy evening hits. I love my flowerpot.

As an aside, I work extensively outside as part of a tree surgeon gang.
I use my dynavaps and a sequoia mod based concentrate device outside at work. My mod is dust/splash proof and haven't broken anything yet.

I suspect your biggest challenge will be the addiction to nicotine so consider that also.

 

[Vaporware]

A lot of good advice here! I agree convection and/or rosin are the way to go for flavor.

I do think VapCaps can be great for the right people, but while do I believe it’s possible I can’t seem to get consistently good flavor from them. Because you’re such a heavy user I don’t think they would be right for you, but if you have a chance to try one I’d give it a shot.

The new Anvil would probably be a better choice in that vein though, and hopefully it will be more widely available soon. Otherwise, you have a lot of good suggestions above. Just think about what you’re okay with.

If you can be near an outlet a lot, a log or something like a FlowerPot, Cloud Connoisseur, etc. is a great choice.

If you need portability and you can carry some batteries a TinyMight (which is not related to the Mighty) could be a good fit.

If you want to just hold a torch up to the air intake and get immediate vapor, the Sticky Brick type stuff may be what you want.

Whatever you choose, I do think the flavor (and probably the flavor of everything that goes into your mouth) should improve if you can stop smoking for a while.

Also, I generally get the best flavor when I either use a small amount of flower at a high temp and use it up in a hit or two, or when I load a large amount and keep the temps low. Then I can often get half a dozen or more hits with good flavor in my FlowerPot for example. The only downside there is if you want to fully extract it you may have to take some less good tasting hits at the end or just use what’s left for edibles.

 

[DeadRabb1t]

Sticky bricks are widely available in the UK and hit like a bong, dynavap won't cut it with that usage.

Tinymight is a good call for battery portable

 

[Chicken No Name]

My reference to the dynavap is for the form factor. It recreates holding a spliff which I found/find very useful for getting off the toking.
And whilst it doesn't hold very much, I used to load 3 and just take successive hits until all 3 done.
Other butane based vapes just don't recreate that spliff muscle memory IME. I love my noisy cricket and lotus and they can both hit harder but the form factor isn't as effective as a DV.

 

[666Honeybadger]

10 grams a day? 35 joints... Now that's impressive.
How much tobacco a day do you use then if i may ask? I think you shouldn't underestimate the effect (and the addiction) the tabacco brings to the equation. Might be partly the reason why you don't get the full flavor and satisfaction when vaping.

Have you thought about making someting like Green Dragon tincture? I like to use it as an 'add-on', just something so you have a basic high going on throughout the day. I find that this combination with vaping works a bit better in holding me down on lighting one up...

 

[Cheebsy]

Good luck on your quest to ditching tobacco @drgreen. I've just passed my 2 year anniversary, it will be worth it.

My history sounds quite similar, I always had a spliff in my mouth and that was for nearly 30 years. I didn't smoke cigarettes unless a spliff wasn't possible. My advice, fwiw, is don't stress over the flavour, it will come back at some point, I found when I started vaping seriously it all tasted very similar and I couldn't understand why everyone raved about superior flavours Vs combustion. My opinion now is completely flipped.

In terms of devices I think I owe alot of my success to the dynavap, as @Chicken No Name says, the muscle memory thing was very helpful. I don't use it at all these days as pure convection tastes best. Just get one of the cheaper m versions to try. Most importantly though you should find a nicotine vape that satisfies, that was a big help when I found a decent nic vape, the little pen style ones didn't cut for me.

 

[Vaporware]

Despite my concern that Dynavap’s tips may not hold as much as you’d want and don’t have the best flavor (at least for me), as you can see they have helped plenty of people switch when other things didn’t feel right.

If it seems like something you want to try, don’t take our criticisms as a reason to write them off. You can get one fairly cheap and they work well for a lot of people. I still have several and I do use them, I just prefer convection heaters most of the time.

 

[invertedisdead]

I find that long term smokers often equate the smoky char flavors as part of the cannabis flavor, like barbecue - and when you take those away they feel something is missing.

I know a bunch of old school joint smokers and they all genuinely feel nothing tastes better than a joint.

IMO if your main motivation for switching is flavor and you're over the moon with burning one, meh - flavor is already super subjective, if you're happy who cares what other people think.

But if there's other compelling reasons for wanting to switch to a vaporizer, that might be worth weighing in on.

Main reason I switched is I was amazed at how clean a bong stays. Just a single smoke hit would dirty it up more than a whole month of vaping.

 

[shopdognyc]

i dont want biast or in denial reviews, ive met somany people sware by their vapes saying its terpy as and tastes just like it smells, to fidn them horrible,
ive had now 8 my last was a £300 pax3 which was bloody awful, draw resistance was like blowing a baloon up in reverse or you know when u stick the straw to thebottom of the thick shake and it wont move? thats a pax3

the taste is minimal, maybe hashy/dab like no matter what you use! cheese dawg blues trainwreck, you cant tell the difference,
ive been through volcanoes, and ive had the ssv , ive done a good load now and i cant find any that keep me from smokin,

the mrs hates me for spendin somuch on them only to throw em in a draw, i really want 1 that works for me like others have,

im a medical and rec smoker, i am bob marleys cousin, i dont go anywhere without 2 joints inmy gob,
i smoke 10grams aday, around 35 joints, hooraa that me thats my life, i love to be high have been for 35years and intend on being there on out,
but ido want to drop tobacco, and vape ,

i looked at the omnicap and as i went to buy it i was told that it is flavourless and is not good, now that shit looked good im gutted

I think the taste of vapes takes getting used to. My first vape was a Pax, as you will learn is a conduction vape.

Going from combustion to vapes, the flavor is different but you begin to acquire or appreciate it. After some time, you cannot burn or combust, it seriously tastes like shit.

 

[florduh]

I think the taste from a good convection herb vape is delicious. I never have to really taste that AVB funk. The vapor production just sort of falls off. But the flavor has to be pretty subjective. I love coffee and hoppy IPA beers too. I've got plenty of herb that tastes like breathable beer.

 

[checkyourlibido]

I look at it like eating ass. If it's clean, it might not taste like ass, it might even taste great. From the first time, I loved them both.

 

[cpl5938]

No matter what vape I use, taste starts to fall off after the first couple of hits or so.

 

[Vaporware]

No matter what vape I use, taste starts to fall off after the first couple of hits or so.

It does, but the higher the temp the faster it seems to fall off for me. With a FlowerPot VRod at 555 (coil temp - actual air temp is much lower) I usually get at least half a dozen medium to long draws before flavor tips over to not-so-great in my opinion.

At high temps I just load less and refill more often.

 

[iDRINKBLEACH]

No matter what vape I use, taste starts to fall off after the first couple of hits or so.

They all lose that green hit flavor like ^^^ said.
IMO combusting taste like shit the first hit. So two hits tasting good is definitely an upgrade. With a tolerance like that definitely check out a desktop vaporizer, pax should have never been a choice for you.
Fwiw I had a pax and I did not like it very much for all the reasons you have listed. With pax I felt like I bought into marketing, but at the same time Pax 2 brought me to this forum.
You should definitely check out DCE if on a budget or unsure of investing into vaping even more, all the others they listed are great. There’s a wait list for cloud connoisseur products and not accepting orders for the next couple weeks, these are my products and would happy to help you out if you chose that route

 

[howie105]

Successfully moving from combustion to vaping requires dealing with tradeoffs, adaption, study and money. After all that some folks find that vaping is just not for them. If you feel you done your part after moving through well known and rated vapes, and it's not working then light up and just be happy.

 

[GoldenBud]

No matter what vape I use, taste starts to fall off after the first couple of hits or so.

try to grab some weed that is very rich in terpenes

 

[dallasxus]

Try a log vape they hit like a truck and have excellent flavour.

 

[badbee]

Do you literally smoke an average of 2 joints an hour, 16+ hours a day? That will have destroyed your taste buds (they can recover) so your experience of taste is likely to be very different from people who don't smoke. It will take a determined effort, that you won't always enjoy, to break that habit and convert to vaping. It's worth doing, that much smoke is very bad for your health. You are going to need to make a determined and explicit effort to switch with a complete cut off from smoking for a couple of weeks.

You will also need a heavy hitter vape, the ones you listed are either crap or, like the Pax, only suitable for light users. A heavy desktop or one of the bigger logs would be best, possibly a Volcano, but a bag vape would be a bigger adjustment for you. There is a guy who goes by @VGOODIEZ who specializes in selling heavy vapes. Ask his advice, yes he'll want to sell you something, but it will be something suitable for you, not random crap. His reputation is good and prices are what you typically find.

Edit: The Storz and Bickel Plenty might be right for you. It's a little too much for most people but for someone who wants to knock back a half gram at a time it might be just right.

 

[GoldenBud]

i think i understand why it taste bad for you.. you got buds which are moist maybe? when you try to squeeze them it gets back to its original shape, or even stronger than this - can you even squeeze them?