Cannabis Hardware (formerly NewVape) FlowerPot Twax Vaporizer

[thevapist]

SiC seems rather shock proof, and I have SiC pearls so I don't really worry. Water might help a tiny bit, but I torch the dish completely off the head once every week or two, so I don't worry about long term build up much.

All depends on what you want to do. I know some people dip their pearls in ISO/water after every hit. Too much work for me, and I doubt I'd notice a difference. I find cleaning my rig at least once a day is what really ensures good flavor.

 

[murf2010]

Everyone else’s terp pearls turn brown tanish?

 

[someTooL]

Everyone else’s terp pearls turn brown tanish?

I think we have the same ones. I haven’t tried cleaning yet but yes, brown. Here’s my thing. A couple spins and they seem to get stuck and not move for me. I took mine out last night and went without.

 

[tb42091]

IME, if your pearls are browning and getting stuck, you aren't dry qtipping well enough after your dab. Don't get me wrong, it is annoying as fuck to finish a double decker and while you are pretty high and getting higher by the second, dealing with mopping up the excess oil in the dish thoroughly.

Here is another shot of my pearls and dish, at least 2 dabs a day since I last posted it in Oct 20. Only dry qtipping. I use both sides of 2 qtips per dab and I make sure to get the pearls really well. Each qtipping process takes less than 30 seconds if I had to estimate, so it's not crazy but is 1000% annoying.

https://imgur.com/a/OoRyHWs

I think I need to clarify this again - when I mention using water to clean the dish, I don't mean qtipping up after a dab. I always use dry qtips after dabs. But when it gets dirty and you get that black residue baked onto the dish, you turn the controller down to around 200F and let it equalize at that temp. Then you fill the dish with distilled/filtered water and let it sit for a minute and the black residue lifts itself off the dish. Then you just use a dry qtip to clean out all the gunk and repeat if necessary. IME it only takes 1 or 2 water cycles for it to be brand new, and you don't have to take the head apart to do it. For my pearls, I torch them clean separately. I really only need to do that if I knock one into the carpet while hot or get too high and forget to qtip after a double decker. Hopefully this helps a bit.

Edited to add: when doing the water cleaning,, dont forget to remove pearls subject to thermal shock from the dish before adding the water.

 

[someTooL]

Good stuff for sure. I keep a pretty clean dish using q-tips after every dab. Mine spin freely until I add the concentrates. Just a rice size amount spreading in the bottom of the dish. More experience and practice I’m sure will benefit my experience with the spheres.

Edit: I added a little extra to my drawl and I can now hear the spheres buzzing around the track.

 

[tb42091]

Ah I got you now, yeah the oil does add quite a bit of resistance for the balls to move through and I sometimes had a problem with my 1 angled hole cap getting them going, but my 2 angled hole cap gets them going pretty easily, especially if the head is flat and not tilted like what happens when you just drop the head on the bowl and let go of the handle.

This vape can be as simple as just dropping the head on and inhaling, but it can also be pretty complex when you add in pearls and different caps with different holes and qtipping and everything. I've found it pretty ritualistic once I got a pattern down

 

[ephemera.cannon]

I admittedly haven't read much of the current 717 (!) pages of this thread - my apologies.

My portable is vape is currently dead in the water and I've no insight into when that situation might be rectified so I'm on the hunt for another option that produces high quality vapor, is easy to maintain and isn't prone to failure under regular/general use circumstances. The modicum of research I've completed so far suggests the FP is at the top of the list when it comes to desktop options. (And I also just kinda dig the vibe I'm getting from New Vape.)

My usage profile is mostly flower, but I also like concentrate flexibility as an option. I've already got a couple of glass pieces on hand which I'd been using w/ my portable.

Based on what I've read, it looks like the FP Vrod Essentials bundle is the move. High quality vapor production, strong build quality and reliability albeit at a non-trivial price point (for me).

What might I be failing to consider? $500 buck outlay makes me a little queasy with all the uncertainty these days. Are there additional accessories I'd be well-advised to build into that cost forecast? (I've got a BCG grinder w/ the medium plate so I suppose I'd do well to purchase the "fine" plate per what I've read in this thread?). Also, how's the learning curve with the FP. I've never had a desktop unit before but presumably it's not crazy difficult to get 'er dialed in with a little experimentation?

Sorry for the ignorance, but thanks for the insight and guidance y'all. I surely appreciate it.

 

[710yota]

I admittedly haven't read much of the current 717 (!) pages of this thread - my apologies.

My portable is vape is currently dead in the water and I've no insight into when that situation might be rectified so I'm on the hunt for another option that produces high quality vapor, is easy to maintain and isn't prone to failure under regular/general use circumstances. The modicum of research I've completed so far suggests the FP is at the top of the list when it comes to desktop options. (And I also just kinda dig the vibe I'm getting from New Vape.)

My usage profile is mostly flower, but I also like concentrate flexibility as an option. I've already got a couple of glass pieces on hand which I'd been using w/ my portable.

Based on what I've read, it looks like the FP Vrod Essentials bundle is the move. High quality vapor production, strong build quality and reliability albeit at a non-trivial price point (for me).

What might I be failing to consider? $500 buck outlay makes me a little queasy with all the uncertainty these days. Are there additional accessories I'd be well-advised to build into that cost forecast? (I've got a BCG grinder w/ the medium plate so I suppose I'd do well to purchase the "fine" plate per what I've read in this thread?). Also, how's the learning curve with the FP. I've never had a desktop unit before but presumably it's not crazy difficult to get 'er dialed in with a little experimentation?

Sorry for the ignorance, but thanks for the insight and guidance y'all. I surely appreciate it.

Since you have the glass and a quality grinder I think you would be pretty well set for some good times going with the essentials bundle. Some accessories you might want like the glass bowls or the loading tool but nothing else I think you would need.

There's plenty of room for fine tuning your experience with the FlowerPot but the learning curve isn't too steep

 

[The Stray Fox]

I’ve been consolidating a bit and settled on this set up for my VRod. The 8” stand with the AVB Can is just primo. I’m running the VRod with my WeedEater 19 hole diffuser and I am really only using it for flower. Capped with the VRod 2 hole carb, it’s a beast. When switching between two rigs having two bowls has been a nice upgrade too.

@ephemera.cannon it’s my favorite vape I’ve come across so far. It’s very easy to use and the good folks around here will be happy to help you get dialed in should you need it. I think you’re smart for going VRod.

 

[Coustu]

How much difference in draw resistance if any do you notice with that WE 19 hole diffuser on the VROD? Was draw resistance the reason you switched them? I have both heads and slightly prefer the WE simply because of the (admittedly very slight) added draw resistance of the VROD. I just keep the VROD on the stand and switch it if I know I want a dab or proper twax session. Or sometimes I just use a mighty concentrate pad in a glass bowl (I find that it’s a perfect fit) if I decide I want a dab mid-session or if I don’t feel like switching the heads out. That setup is devastatingly effective as well! I could run em both as I do have a spare PID and coil but I’m trying to reduce clutter on my desk. And I like switching heads out regularly. That way they don’t get glued shut from reclaim. Those stories of people not being able to get their VRod heads off the coil for cleaning terrify me! LOL!

 

[Chris_CH]

How much difference in draw resistance if any do you notice with that WE 19 hole diffuser on the VROD? Was draw resistance the reason you switched them? I have both heads and slightly prefer the WE simply because of the (admittedly very slight) added draw resistance of the VROD. I just keep the VROD on the stand and switch it if I know I want a dab or proper twax session. Or sometimes I just use a mighty concentrate pad in a glass bowl (I find that it’s a perfect fit) if I decide I want a dab mid-session or if I don’t feel like switching the heads out. That setup is devastatingly effective as well! I could run em both as I do have a spare PID and coil but I’m trying to reduce clutter on my desk. And I like switching heads out regularly. That way they don’t get glued shut from reclaim. Those stories of people not being able to get their VRod heads off the coil for cleaning terrify me! LOL!

Draw resistance was definitely not the reason for removing the hole in the diffuser. It was to help the spread of the air more evenly onto the bowl. The Vrod has that center hole at the top, so if you leave the middle diffuser hole, the air will rush down the middle and immediately surrounding holes of the diffuser, which caused a ring in the bowl. It would force you to stir.

Hope that makes sense!

 

[The Stray Fox]

How much difference in draw resistance if any do you notice with that WE 19 hole diffuser on the VROD?

I don’t notice a difference between the two. Psychologically maybe the center hole does something but I get pretty even bowls with both. Really I just like to play. I use a basket screen and a double weave Ti screen in the Ti bowl and I alway cap which makes for all the restriction I need.

 

[Dingleb3rry]

I’m loving concentrates on the vrod and I want to step it up, I’ll prob jump for a dcup or a tbucket if Black Friday sale is tempting enough.
As I’ve mentioned before, I’m super new to concentrates as well as glass, really.

Looking at 2 pieces, a leisure incycler and the other a 710 sci straight-fab. I get that it’s mostly preference, but any thoughts here? Thanks

 

[murf2010]

I’m loving concentrates on the vrod and I want to step it up, I’ll prob jump for a dcup or a tbucket if Black Friday sale is tempting enough.
As I’ve mentioned before, I’m super new to concentrates as well as glass, really.

Looking at 2 pieces, a leisure incycler and the other a 710 sci straight-fab. I get that it’s mostly preference, but any thoughts here? Thanks

Love the piece from new vape. Very pleased with it. I’m new to dabbing as well and having the time of my life. Recently just dropped like 300 on concentrated. Tons of amazing live options.

 

[710yota]

I’m loving concentrates on the vrod and I want to step it up, I’ll prob jump for a dcup or a tbucket if Black Friday sale is tempting enough.
As I’ve mentioned before, I’m super new to concentrates as well as glass, really.

Looking at 2 pieces, a leisure incycler and the other a 710 sci straight-fab. I get that it’s mostly preference, but any thoughts here? Thanks

I have a Leisure incycler that I use with my e-nail set up and am very pleased with it, it has been my daily driver for dabs since I picked it up last April.

 

[iDRINKBLEACH]

I personally do dry wipes until after my 3 or 4th dab after that I'll do a good wet wipe just to help everything ease out below my dish NUT and those tight little spots. I bought my dish used and holy moly did it have build up. You know it's bad when you thought it was SiC at first glass just to realize its buildup haha. I imagine who ever was using before me lost the taste for dabs once their dish was burning off constantly n slowly. It was pretty gross but got me a good price $270 for vrod bundle with auber rdk 300a.
Looking into some perls and was thinking SiC. They would be durable enough that they would not crack if I wet mopped would they?

 

[Coustu]

Draw resistance was definitely not the reason for removing the hole in the diffuser. It was to help the spread of the air more evenly onto the bowl. The Vrod has that center hole at the top, so if you leave the middle diffuser hole, the air will rush down the middle and immediately surrounding holes of the diffuser, which caused a ring in the bowl. It would force you to stir.

Hope that makes sense!

That makes PERFECT sense!

 

[Warpdrive]

Just saying hi while still celebrating 6 months without combustion since getting my Runt. Sadly missed out on a weedeater while trying to get my account back from the best admin or mod on the planet. Sadly watched it get sold. I'm sure you hear it before. Only want to buy used from a member here to give back to the community for all I've learned. And to maybe help get that person something for black Friday. Open to suggestions. Would not mind a showerhead. Preferably a basic kit. But open to that too.

I'd really like to hear your advice. Or thoughts. I do not prefer Supreme, I'm sorry.

 

[Warpdrive]

Oh and I'm a retard, congrats to who ever got it.

 

[Socks And Sandals]

Not a huge deal, I’m used to having my mighty drop 5-10f during a pull, but I’m surprised the mighty retains heat “better” than the vrod head and giant coil.

Funny you mention this. I recently bought a Mighty from PIU about 4 months ago and it did the exact same thing.. only it was dropping up to 22 degrees with every draw! I brought this up over in the Mighty thread and I was told by the guys over there that it's not right. I contacted puffitup and scheduled an RMA.. After they received it, I got an email telling me everything was A OK... I even asked them, "Did you guys test it with herb in the chamber?" They said no and that they couldn't.. then I told them, "you're telling me that a 20 to 22 degree temperature drop after every draw is normal?"

PIU did go on to say that it only was dropping 10 degrees... LOL Well maybe that's because they are testing an empty chamber!

I gave up with them and got my money back and the end result was the NV Flowerpot Vrod so that was a good thing! I miss the mighty but yeah man, the same drop in temperature happened with mine too..

I don’t notice a difference between the two. Psychologically maybe the center hole does something but I get pretty even bowls with both. Really I just like to play. I use a basket screen and a double weave Ti screen in the Ti bowl and I alway cap which makes for all the restriction I need.

There really isn't any negligible difference in performance then is there? I was thinking of picking up a WE head later down the line possibly. I have this feeling I may actually enjoy it without the cap.. I've tried the Vrod without the cap and it only really works for me without the cap well at 640 and above. Currently, I finish all my sessions at 620 to 630 tops.

Maybe I'm just too low of a temp it seems.

 

[The Stray Fox]

I’m finding my temp is dropping a good 20 or even 30f when doing flower.

Are you using the Ti bowl? This happens to me too. Especially on the first hit. The Ti bowl sucks a lot of heat out of the VRod head dropping the temp usually 15-20 degrees. If I don’t wait for recovery and hit it at the low it will drop another 10ish degrees. It doesn’t effect the hit much for me. Probably because of how I raise my screen to decrease the depth of the bowl.

 

[Coustu]

Hey guys, I may be late to realize this but have you ever experimented to see how small an amount of kief you can get a decent hit from in Flowerpot? I’ve been playing around with that and it’s a surprisingly minute amount. Like, just enough to get lodged in the double weave screen! I’ve gotten some amazing hits off this minuscule amount. And I recently got a grinder that’s a total kief machine I’m psyched! I mean off a good sized bug I can harvest enough to have several nice Kief bowls.

Funny you mention this. I recently bought a Mighty from PIU about 4 months ago and it did the exact same thing.. only it was dropping up to 22 degrees with every draw! I brought this up over in the Mighty thread and I was told by the guys over there that it's not right. I contacted puffitup and scheduled an RMA.. After they received it, I got an email telling me everything was A OK... I even asked them, "Did you guys test it with herb in the chamber?" They said no and that they couldn't.. then I told them, "you're telling me that a 20 to 22 degree temperature drop after every draw is normal?"

PIU did go on to say that it only was dropping 10 degrees... LOL Well maybe that's because they are testing an empty chamber!

I gave up with them and got my money back and the end result was the NV Flowerpot Vrod so that was a good thing! I miss the mighty but yeah man, the same drop in temperature happened with mine too..

There really isn't any negligible difference in performance then is there? I was thinking of picking up a WE head later down the line possibly. I have this feeling I may actually enjoy it without the cap.. I've tried the Vrod without the cap and it only really works for me without the cap well at 640 and above. Currently, I finish all my sessions at 620 to 630 tops.

Maybe I'm just too low of a temp it seems.

No no difference in performance or effectiveness at all! Just a different experience and feel but even that’s ever so slight.

 

[invertedisdead]

Are you using the Ti bowl? This happens to me too. Especially on the first hit. The Ti bowl sucks a lot of heat out of the VRod head dropping the temp usually 15-20 degrees. If I don’t wait for recovery and hit it at the low it will drop another 10ish degrees. It doesn’t effect the hit much for me. Probably because of how I raise my screen to decrease the depth of the bowl.

Even more heat is sucked out if you put the carb cap on top, too. That said, though it’s been a while since I owned one of these, I don’t recall the FP ever “running out of gas” during a draw, even if the PID controller shows a sizable drop in temperature.

 

[The Stray Fox]

I don’t recall the FP ever “running out of gas” during a draw

Truth! Never.

 

[Dingleb3rry]

I was absolutely using the ti bowl for flower at the time when I saw the big drops. But like mentioned above, although I’ll see large temp drops on the PID, the flowerpot has never ever felt underpowered, lol

My mighty I can rip it long and hard all day (my pulls are a good 15 seconds easy) and I can barely get the temp to drop more than 8 or 10f, which is normally what I see on my Auber, and only mentioned the large 20-30f drops out of curiosity, not from having a poor experience. Although I’d be lying if I said I wouldn’t make it more stable if I knew what I was doing, which I very much do not.

new glass for concentrates incoming, leisure incycler. Now I have to figure out if I jump for a tbucket or grab a quartz banger and a new, having a full surface vs a donut surface is going to be a nice upgrade along with the glass