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Vaporizing vs Smoking InfoGraphic

Discussion in 'Vaporization Discussion' started by LonelyStoner, Feb 19, 2014.

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How hard is it for you to convince someone to switch?

  1. Easy

    9.2%
  2. Medium Difficulty

    29.2%
  3. Hard

    30.8%
  4. Really Hard

    20.0%
  5. Impossible (won't listen to whatever you say)

    10.8%
  1. LonelyStoner

    LonelyStoner Active Member

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    I've been trying to convert some of my friends over to vaporing but have had a hard time communicating to them why they should while usually stoned out of my mind. So I decided to come with this little infographic to illustrate the main differences... let me know what you think

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  2. smokum

    smokum I am who I am and your approval isn't needed!

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    Who am 'I' or anyone else to force another to accept your mind thought or life choices ?

    I simply offer the alternative to the best of my ability (good find on that chart... will save me wasting my efforts for those zero interest types ;) ), and allow them to try it out should they show interest. I just refuse to harp on it because life is full of good and bad choices, and I've made 'mine' while at the same time not judging others for theirs.

    :peace:
  3. LonelyStoner

    LonelyStoner Active Member

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    I'd agree with you if those choices had only benign consequences... these do not

    That being said, I only try my best to make them understand the difference, not gonna hold a gun to someone's head if they are that stubborn. To each his own
  4. MG23

    MG23 Relaxin'

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    lol @ the vaporizer "top 10" and "tweet" sections, though. Sort've devalues the entire thing.
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  5. LonelyStoner

    LonelyStoner Active Member

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    That infograph was one of the main reasons I made my own, not even half of it is actually about vaporization and when it is it hardly explains the difference between the two. Lot more color than actual revelant information. I wonder how many people don't understand that both are actually vaporization, just the one method is much more crude.
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  6. MG23

    MG23 Relaxin'

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    Completely agreed. The mainstream one is a lot of flash with little substance. A lot of ignorance as well. You have a lot more valid and pertinent information within yours, but it's admittedly a bit less fun to look at.

    Not sure what you mean by this, though. Vaporization does occur during combustion but it is incidental.
  7. LonelyStoner

    LonelyStoner Active Member

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    Thanks, it turned out to be more of bitch to put together than I had original thought. Though I could have put more effect into making it pleasing for eyes (sadly I'm a horrible artist :/)


    What do you mean by incidental? Without the vaporization of cannabiniods, there would be no high, only a cigar buzz caused by the noxious products of smoke. The whole point of combusting the plant is in order to generate that heat necessary for vaporization of thc and such, else all you would be achieving in inhaling combusted plant matter
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  8. pigfoot

    pigfoot Dabs are vaping too!

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    Graphic is great. A real teaching aide for those who want to learn. I have a couple of friends like that, who are open to the idea. One however, cannot be moved by any fact or argument. It's his choice, I just can't understand it.
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  9. lazylathe

    lazylathe On the verge of...

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    For all my friends they absolutely love coming over and playing with all my vapes.
    They get totally wrecked off very little herb and are generally higher than when they smoke.

    I have even gone so far as to give a friend two of my vapes, the first was an NO2 and the next was my loved inhalater. Does he use them?. No not really because he hangs out with other smokers and rolling one is so much faster for them. When he is not rolling he uses a one hitter pipe...

    So you can see that I have tried pretty hard here, given away $300 worth of vapes that sit in a car not being used very often... Kind of annoys me because I spent a lot of money on them.

    So to summaries:
    Can you convert a smoker to a vaper?
    Only if they want to be converted, no graph or info is going to change most old skool smokers, IMO.
    Most don't even understand the benefit of using less herb to get just as or higher than if smoked.

    I used to smoke only for almost 15 years but now after more than a year of vaping, if I try to smoke I cough my guts out and feel quite ill! Not pleasant at all!

    What drives me forward is knowing that when my friends come over they will leave in a slightly healthier state than if we had blazed a few J's.
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  10. Skeena

    Skeena Standing stone faced like a statue.

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    I would say medium, Yeah everyone I share my vape(s) with love it but not all of them can just go out and buy one.
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  11. vapeddotca

    vapeddotca New Member Retailer

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    Great info it just needs to be presented better to get more attention.. An infographic with that much text won't go too far
  12. syrupy

    syrupy For the homie.

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    The few I've converted at first did it just because I told them it cuts consumption compared to combustion. Once they get over the joy of saving medicine, they start to appreciate the health benefits. If vaping did nothing else besides restore my sense of smell, it would still be worth it.
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  13. clouded vision

    clouded vision Well-Known Member

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    As soon as I started looking at this chart I noticed glaring errors. First marijuana doesn't start to combust at 392, the solo goes up to 410 and they never combust. Second there is no way a joint burns as hot as 2000 ever, my torch goes to 2450 and an ember is cooler than a flame. Whenever the first point made has inaccuracy, I immediately discredit every other point made. That being said I have converted one friend the others refuse to spend the money for a vape but we'll when they are around me.
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  14. fumfumfum

    fumfumfum New Member

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    It's a desition you have to take by yourself. The initial investment can turn out some people, but it only takes some research to find it's many advantages. All we can do is raise awareness, spread information, and more and more people will embrace this way of consumption.
  15. Chilled.

    Chilled. Member

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    When I gave up tobacco I couldnt stop smoking bongs over vaping and eventually had my volcano not used for 2 years. Had a break and now only vape and could never go back.

    I think that it is very hard as the adjustment from smoking pure to vaping is hard and at first I massively missed the stoney high. Now though the smell is so much better, use way less and enjoy it way more.
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  16. problemchild

    problemchild New Member

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    Getting people to switch is difficult, although they are happy have a try. I think the £150 for a decent portable puts most part time people off ownership, a little
  17. aamp420

    aamp420 Lets help the people of this earth one by one!

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    Hello guys of FC, I will like to give my 2.:2c: in by saying that since i have quit combustion I caught less and when I do caught from vaping it feel awesome, like i love it when I start coughing. Also since all I have is the EQ and cant vape while I'm out, I have notice that when I smoke I cant get as medicated as from vaping and i feel like im wasting it.

    Has any one experience this?:huh: Look forward to the reply:rofl:
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  18. cityslang

    cityslang A taste on the tongue

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    Smoking weed pure is looked on as being a bit weird as it is round my way
  19. aamp420

    aamp420 Lets help the people of this earth one by one!

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    I have notice that when I smoke I cant get as medicated as from vaping and i feel like im wasting it.

    Has any one experience this?
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  20. Quetzalcoatl

    Quetzalcoatl i i i

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    You lose up to 40% of the cannabinoids when you combust, so only really ~60% of the goods get to you, and even then not all of it is absorbed. Vaporizing is much more efficient, I can't place a number on it but you're obviously not destroying almost half of the cannabinoid content, plus you can go from low temperatures to higher temperatures. The last time I combusted, it was the same amount I vaporized (~0.15g). I felt it for about 20 minutes and that was it. It was pretty much a waste for me :/
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  21. cityslang

    cityslang A taste on the tongue

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    I find it gives a fast harder hit but it wears off quicker and is dirty high. But I can't vape the volume I smoke so swings and roundabouts and all that.
  22. aamp420

    aamp420 Lets help the people of this earth one by one!

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    Quetzalcoatl, Thank thank you very much for your response, I can understand why. Yeah It happend today also, I went to my friends and I only have my EQ so i dont feel like bringing that where i go. So I decide to take a hit, he get buzzed but not really me. I wonder why is it that once you go vape you dont go smoke no mo…:whip::spliff: Happy vaping…!
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  23. aamp420

    aamp420 Lets help the people of this earth one by one!

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    Well atleast you get a quick onset because i can smoke a whole joint and feel normal, now I go home and use my Q with only .2 and get so blasted i kinda speak jeberish oh and english isnt my first languase so the muble sound supper funny. Thank you for the reply cityslang...:whoa:
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  24. Quetzalcoatl

    Quetzalcoatl i i i

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    Yeah if I want to get blasted I have to pretty much smoke a blunt to the face. That's 1.5g minimum as I like my blunts, and that's like 15 vape highs... 10 if I want to vape a bit more...
  25. HillaryClinton

    HillaryClinton Future ruler of earth

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    Thanks, gonna use these graphs, hard to explain stuff sometimes to people.

    Nice resource here.
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