Discontinued Vapir NO2

[Randd]

Ok. This is my first post so take it easy on me.

I saw on page 14 of this thread someone mention about the noise (high pitched whining) it makes while charging. I had not noticed this until last night while I was charging it. The battery had gone completely dead while I was out, and when I got home, I plugged it in to find out it was now making a noise.

I am just wondering if this is happening to anyone else? Did I just let me battery get really low and this is a side effect? Did I mess something up and now it is going to make this now.

It only makes this noise when it is plugged in currently and I would love to know what you guys think.

(Also got this for Xmas for myself and couldn't be happier. Just wanted something that was QUIET, small and portable. I still have 2 of those things, would love suggestions to get the 3rd one back.)

Thanks a bunch

Is the sound coming from the unit or the plug? If I jostle the plug, I can hear some intermittent high pitched noise coming from my plug (if its really quiet), but the jostling seems to cause it, and it does not continue. I do not hear any noise coming from the unit.

 

[FLskwat]

@ Daytripper: Yes the batterie of the NO2 does a little annoying winning sound, WHEN THE BATTERIE IS VERY LOW and till the middle of the charge: so it will be 1H sound...max! If you charge your batterie when it is not fully discharged you won't get the whinning!

@musikchef: what about the throat? Do you have a defective & harmful NO2? Any feedback?

 

[musikchef]

MLark - never tasted plastic - and the bud isn't burned, just dried and brown

FLskwat - still monitoring that - wish I knew someone with a really good vape to compare it to

 

[FLskwat]

If you don't have any plastic taste nor smell, you might be a lucky owner too... Have you tested to burn an empty and clean bowl -& screen- at max temp. watching what escapes from the uncapped top? If during this 20 mn process, you see no fumes nor smells, nor melting stuff...you should be ok!
Throat irritation can be the flue you caught outdoors , the strain, the fact you should drink frequently during the sesh, the fact your tubing isn't long enough and the air that hits your throat is still too hot for your personal tolerance (BTW do you use the original tubing? I HIGHLY recommend an upgrade to medical/foodsafe silicone, a little longer: much safer, neutral taste, can be freezed...), the fact you take too long tokes (NO2 is a heavy hitter, you just realize it when you stop inhaling...), etc... And, yes, unfortunately, it could still be something harmfull in its guts that doesn't smell but is off-gasing and irritates your throat, though I doubt it... New vapist frequently have soar throat at the beginning...

 

[musikchef]

FLskwat - where do you get medical/foodsafe silicone?

and what's your thoughts on this (read it on another site): it's better to take small hits from the NO2, let it rest in your lungs some - rather than taking huge hits and blowing out all the "goodness"

also, what temp to you vape?

 

[FLskwat]

I am from France so my silicone source is useless to U. But if you are from the US: I think Tygon brand from USplastics is a good choice (7,5 internal diameter).
Yes for any vaporizer : smaller tokes, keep them longer, exhale less= better efficiency though some like exhaling visual hits sometimes (I like both).
I start vaping at 175 C then end of the 20 mn at 185 C, then 10mn more at 195 C... if I want a "quick" sesh, I crank it up from the beginning!

 

[Tyg]

Delighted with Vapir NO2 (Merged)

I just got the NO2, and couldn't be happier with it straight out of the box. [edit: actually, I didn't use the enclosed plastic tubing, but substituted my 'well seasoned' tube so I wouldn't have to wash the plastic taste from the new tube] It comes up to temperature very quickly, maintains that temperature nicely, and is blessedly quiet. The price is sweet, only $179, and it comes with a 1 year warranty.

I've been vaping for a year now, and have a Vapir One, MFLB, desktop box of some variety, and now the NO2, and have vaped with a heat gun too.

Each have their pluses and minuses but the NO2 will certainly be high on my list of what's vaping tonight. It is portable, accurate (I'm going to take a laser temp reading later today to back that up) and quiet, no cord to have to wrestle with. We tried out a relative's last night, and it was pleasant to be able to pass this around the table easily. The small enclosed scoop is a cute extra that isn't needed, but will help me judge how efficient my various devices are, and how potent various herbs are at the same volume. His duff came out a nice even brown, not much different from my whip's duff, so I'm confident that it is heating more evenly that I would have expected with a contact vaporiser.

I went to three shops to find this, and all three reported that their customers are crazy happy with it, and they can't keep them in stock. From my first and second impression, I can understand why.

Submitted for your approval,
Tyg

 

[salamanderfish]

I have had my NO2 for a few months now, but I find that more and more I have come to dislike the taste. I phoned Vapir and the operator assured me that it was made form "FDA approved nylon fiberglass" and that the taste would fade with time. Weeks of daily use later, however, it still has a bad taste. I am still concerned that there is something wrong. Not only does the device taste off but I find it especially hard on my throat. Now I've gone back to mostly just using the iolite because after joining Fuck Combustion I've found others with the same concern for it and other Vapir products.

Before purchasing the N02 I had read poor reviews for Vapir products from disappointed customers especially on the topic of taste and melting of interior components. So when I bought it I knew I was taking a crap-shoot. I read about it on line and figured I should try it my-self, seeing as it had some nice features (such as digital display, adjustable temperature and auto shut-off). But now I am back to saying that in my opinion and limited experience, the Iolite is a better choice.

PS: Sorry the post is so long, it is my first time, and hopefully they get more concise.

 

[salamanderfish]

In my experience everybody wants to know what it is. Furthermore the taste has been one of my concerns for some time.. When I leave it on and empty it steams smelly stuff. I am considering returning it, but for now I just avoid using it as much as possible. In my opinion this vape has neat features such as the adjustable temperature and so forth but for now the iolite is my portable unit of choice.

 

[salamanderfish]

I have found that the N02 tastes bad and when it is left on and empty it still emits some kind of fumes. I still have mine but I am nervous to use it. I bought it because i like the idea of being able to set my own temperature but now I am back to using my original unit as often as possible instead of the N02
.

 

[FLskwat]

All your descriptions indicate a deficient NO2. Don't use it any more if you feel it's harmful, if the taste is unpleasant, if you have empty bowl fumes, and try to use the warranty for a refund/exchange...

Just 2 subsidiary questions:
did you do the first empty burning procedure ?
do you clean frequently the screens, bowl walls, etc?

 

[VaporNation]

I have found that the N02 tastes bad and when it is left on and empty it still emits some kind of fumes. I still have mine but I am nervous to use it. I bought it because i like the idea of being able to set my own temperature but now I am back to using my original unit as often as possible instead of the N02
.

I have heard this same complaint from a few different people, but I personally don't seem to have that experience.

 

[Randd]

I have found that the N02 tastes bad and when it is left on and empty it still emits some kind of fumes. I still have mine but I am nervous to use it. I bought it because i like the idea of being able to set my own temperature but now I am back to using my original unit as often as possible instead of the N02
.

I have heard this same complaint from a few different people, but I personally don't seem to have that experience.

Me neither. I do think that there is a different taste that comes from the fact that the NO2 is operating in style that is somewhat unique. Its a little crucible where the contents sit and toast, and are then pulled up against the screen, operating like a little whip. It seems to me that the NO2 is able to extract the most. I also have a MFLB which I really like, but trying to get the every bit from it tends to lead to some combustion, this does not happen with the VB that I have, but it still seems that I can extract the most using the NO2. I like all of the units that I mentioned. They are unique designs that each excel in their own way.

 

[willieR]

I have heard this same complaint from a few different people, but I personally don't seem to have that experience.

I absolutely, certainly did.

 

[Cairo1]

I also had a terrible experience with the NO2. Terrible. Given the very large number of complaints and the serious health risk associated with a strong caustic mystery smell coming from a Chinese product that we're supposed to inhale I honestly don't know why they are not being recalled. At the very least they should be boycotted / avoided to send a message that we are not expendible.

 

[Cairo1]

Contrast Vapir's track record with other flawed products and uncaring dismissive attitude with a group like Magic Flight that has gone to great lengths to demonstrate that they care about us.

 

[lwien]

Contrast Vapir's track record with other flawed products and uncaring dismissive attitude with a group like Magic Flight that has gone to great lengths to demonstrate that they care about us.

Agreed, and it is the exact reason why I have been so vocal here as well as at some other sites regarding Vapir. It's one thing to release a product in the marketplace that has problems. Shit happens (although it seems to happen more with Vapir than any other vaporizer manufacturer that I know of). But............it's quite another to astroturf in this thread in an effort to mitigate the negative reviews rather than come in here and address the issues head on. I'm not suggesting that any of the very recent posts are bogus, but if one reads through this thread from the very beginning, it becomes painfully obvious what is taking place, and in my opinion, this type of behavior is reprehensible.

 

[willieR]

I'm with you lwien and Cairo1. I get the very distinct feeling that we are looked at as ignorant passive stoners who won't know the difference and if a stoner is harmed through the use of this ill-considered product, who cares? What's the worst that can happen to Vapir? Class action lawsuit? They understand the risk is low. Magic Flight, Purple Days, etc clearly have found the right resonance. They care about us and have gone to some length to demonstrate it. Seems like the best marketing approach rather than packaging up some utilitarian item with sparkly options, while using the least expensive (clearly hazardous to me) components and likely exploited labor.

You will NEVER convince me that Vapir gives even a slight crap about me or my well-being. They just want my money.

 

[FLskwat]

I totally agree with the astroturfing, poor quality control & marketing and with the making money part (which company doesn't?) blablabla...BUT people do buy it and come ask for tips here... In fact they don't give a damm about convincing you of any capitalistic complot against your lungs...
What do you do with those guys, some with defective units some without...Just either say they are liars, either bach the company which scam them with their poor product?

My point of view:
Yes if you don't have a vapir yet and are wondering about buying one be aware of all that historic VERY POOR record and go for a safer call!
And yes if you ALREADY have one, let us know if it is defective or if you enjoy it...

PS/ just got a new MFLB and will test it intensively and report!

 

[CyberPro]

I have had my Vapir NO2 for a couple weeks. I actually really liked it to start.

but .........

now the battery won't charge nor hold a charge.

And I agree with the others, everything taste like plastic.

I don't like the Magic Flight either since it the battery will only work for 8 mins. Is there any quality portable vaporizer out there? Or will I just need to get the Silver Surfer and enjoy quality tasting product.

 

[PoopMachine]

I have had my Vapir NO2 for a couple weeks. I actually really liked it to start.

but .........

now the battery won't charge nor hold a charge.

And I agree with the others, everything taste like plastic.

I don't like the Magic Flight either since it the battery will only work for 8 mins. Is there any quality portable vaporizer out there? Or will I just need to get the Silver Surfer and enjoy quality tasting product.

Tricky question.. The ioLite and MFLB are both good portable vapes. The NO2 is superior to both in delivery BUT the whole taste/smell thing is kind of a deal breaker. I have all 3. From a pure "get you baked" standpoint, Id probably go NO2, ioLite and MFLB. From a portability standpoint, the MFLB has them all beat. Get some better batteries and its a great portable vape but the NO2 would be all the rage if it werent for the smell/taste issue.

 

[max]

I have had my Vapir NO2 for a couple weeks. I actually really liked it to start.

but .........

now the battery won't charge nor hold a charge.

Unless you're doing something wrong, this is a warranty situation. You've got a one year guarantee. Why not take advantage of it?

I don't like the Magic Flight either since it the battery will only work for 8 mins.

You can't get high in 8 minutes of battery connection time? Or are your expectations just unreasonable, as in 'why won't an AA cell last for hours?'. Tons of LB users get by just fine with a spare battery or two.

Is there any quality portable vaporizer out there?

The LB IS a quality portable. If you want more 'on time', look at the iolite. But don't complain that it doesn't get hot enough for you. It is a fixed temp model.

 

[willieR]

Nice summary Max. I agree that the MFLB expectations expressed are out of touch with reality. The batteries work extremely well.

 

[stricknine]

I have an iOlite, a PD, Extreme, and a MFLB. Just ordered a NO2.

First was the iOlite because of the portability. Had problems lighting it occasionally,switched to a better brand of gas recommended by the company, no more problems. Had it for close to two years now. It is not used anymore now that I have a MFLB. I keep it because it is the only one I have that will work without electricity.

The Extreme was my second purchase. Loved it, but it wasn't miserly enough on the herb usage. I still have it for special occasions. The elbow method is great!

The PD was the next purchase just for the sake of using as little herb as possible with good hits. It does the job great as long as you keep the screen clean. It stays on my desk heated up 24/7 for a quick hit when needed.

Then came the MFLB. Just can't say enough good about it. The MFLB had the biggest learning curve of all of them. In fact after I purchased it I tried it, and promptly put it away as a bad purchasing decision. Kept reading on the FC forum and figured out how to use it and now it is my best buddy anytime I am not home.

Tried out the NO2 with a friend after he had it for two days. He says he didn't do
any type of a break in on it. I smelt no plastic and the only taste I noticed was the herb. I really liked the way the vapor was delivered.

Ordered a NO2 yesterday and looking forward to this evening because it will be waiting for me when I get home. New one for the collection!

Do I feel like I am taking a chance after reading all of the negative reviews, Yes. But, I am basing my buying decision on actually using a brand new one vs. what could be prejudiced opinions on the forum for one reason or another. I am not saying the opinions are not honest.

I should know one way or another after a couple of weeks use. I will try to remember to post my opinion at that time..

 

[willieR]

Do I feel like I am taking a chance after reading all of the negative reviews, Yes. But, I am basing my buying decision on actually using a brand new one vs. what could be prejudiced opinions on the forum for one reason or another.

I don't think all NO2 units are bad. I would point out that most of the singing praises for this unit are either from dealers or nearly first-time posters. The critical comments are often from those that have been posting here for a looong time.

If there's a chance for prejudiced opinions, I would say the prejudice lies with those pushing the NO2 for some gain, not the other way around.

I hope you enjoy your new vape in any event.