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Vaping is so inconsistent anymore even fully cleaned

Discussion in 'Vaporization Discussion' started by Mookie0608, Mar 2, 2019.

  1. Mookie0608

    Mookie0608 Active Member

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    So I have my mighty I love is still use it faithfully and yes it produces vapor but I don’t always blow out clouds like it used too. I use 390 and 410 and I take my long inhales and I don’t always get huge clouds and I feel like that’s why I barely feel high anymore and other times I get a ton of vapor I can feel it in chest etc and there’s times more and more anymore it really hurts my chest anymore lately now strictly on inhaling a regular breathe after vaping. Or I should say inhaling fresh air is what makes it really hurt exhaling is like a relief or not breathing at all. I started taken Loren hits each session but it slowly makes a different but I just can’t figure out I cleaned the unit several times I use the dosing capsules so it stays more clean and I used To always get huge clouds right off the back on first draw. Could this be signs the vape failing? Or could my bud really be that god awful not cured properly flushed etc because my medical pot is profit first or arbitrary least I feel like it because they push it out fast and sell out fast. The one think I know I don’t really do much anymore is pre grind. When I grinder like a half ounce or at least an 8th it would obviously dry out faster but it made it easier for me to deal with now I’m just gridng as I go and I get the same results coarse grind/Santa Cruz or very find grind. Also another key thing I don’t want to leave out

    I feel like I’m inhaling water. When inhaling I just feel like there’s moisture my mouth gets real watery fast and I could be wring but feel like it’s coming from the mouthpiece. I even tried a brand new top cooling unit.

    I have been debating on trying out another vape strictly for the purpose of avoiding dosing capsules I hate dealing with them cuz I save them and will empty out at least a half ounce at a time. Between not getting the same high as smoking and starting to do get irritated with vaping and spending so much money on vapes for them to fail so fast if that’s what my mighty is doing. Because I had to replace my pax 2 times in under a year same.

    Also I clean my mighty once a week.
     
  2. invertedisdead

    invertedisdead High Standards

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    How about a desktop vape?
     
  3. chris 71

    chris 71 Well-Known Member

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    Have you tried a dynavap .?

    You wouldnt hav to wonder if it was dying on you . and its the closest vap to smoking when using the mouth pull , that i have tried .
    Very afordable too
     
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  4. Mookie0608

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    I have not tried it to be honest and the fact of using a torch accidents can happen with me. Have not tried a desktop either well owned one I don’t but I hit a volcano once I lit wasn’t bad. I still only take 1 hit with my vape but the high can’t compete wjth smoking even with the desktop volcano the smoke high was stronger. I keep trying to visit head shops looking for a bubbler for vapes but they always give me the same wtf are you talking about look. Nah man we smoke pot there’s 2 rules smoking, and holding till u choke. There older hippies and swear the reason I don’t get the high I want is because I don’t smoke and I’m not holding in for along time.
     
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  5. invertedisdead

    invertedisdead High Standards

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    Why not just go smoke a bowl and give up on this vape thing if it's not working for you? Either that, or go try a heavy hitter plugin desktop like the new Flowerpot Weedeater.
     
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  6. Used2use

    Used2use Sometimes to stupid to become a fool

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    Well by your description it's hard to evalutate if it's vape or herb or missing smoking toxins related - vaping in general will not give the same 'high/buzz' as smoking by nature, bc the fast (and dirty) hitting smoking byproducts are missing, it's quite an adjustment and only really enjoyable by quitting smoking 4real! fck that cancerogene stuff - maybe do a few weeks t- break and then only vape, there's lots of threads about that here...
    As for the herbs quality/variety, that's even more noticeably with vaping, i've got really frosty looking strains with pretty low vapor production and vice versa, bad quality/unflushed gives me headaches...
     
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  7. arb

    arb Semi shaved ape

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    My guess is the root of the problem lies within.
     
  8. Silver420Surfer

    Silver420Surfer Well-Known Member

    "If you don't cough, you don't get off."= Absolute bullshit:shit:


    Some cannabis just does not vape well. I had a cut of "the pink" a couple months back, that just did not vape well at all in any of my flower vapes(DynaVap, VXH Evo, Pax). In my case the oz I picked up of "the pink" was harvested too soon and not cured properly. Next pickup, different strain, and all was good again.
     
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  9. Ramahs

    Ramahs Fucking Combustion (mostly) Since February 2017

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    Have you contacted S&B to see if you still have any kind of a warranty coverage? The problem may be hardware related.
     
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  10. Mookie0608

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    That was just what the older stoners I met have always said every time in the dispensary. Also was told well sworn holding in for 2 seconds is all u need but I barely feel much unless the key is to take a lot more hits only holding in for 1-2 seconds where I wanna also told no u have to hold for awhile.

    Aside from that yes I have contacted s& by and they don’t think there’s an issue and they were upfront that there warranty is limited I’d be better if buying a brand new one if its something with the actual heating part. They told me it would be shipped to Germany after I send it to Florida location and I could be without it for 3 weeks to a month, but the person I spoke to said the warranty does not cover wear and tear from normal use. It’s a very limited warranty but they also told me to make sure just as a reference I only use legitimate medical marijuana that’s lab tested for every harvest and to make sure if there is too much moisture i store it in glass jars without using it for awhile, and if improperly grown pot that’s legal is really the cause of so many issues then that tells me dispensariesdont care about quality around me at least .


    I have been using my mighty again and the results have improved a little bit seems like when I let the device vibrate and leave it be hen it tells me it’s heated up vapor acumlating for an additional 10-20 seconds yields better more intense results but burns.

    I also did make sure I asked about hard ware and they told me if it is hardware it will cost me money and t could be cheaper to just buy a brands new one.

    Actually last night I smoked a bowl most of the night and barely got high so I know that’s my doing wise I’m not taken long hits. Even when I vaporize the hits are timed to 8-12 seconds I don’t time my self when smoking. When I get really high from smoking it’s when I fill my lungs up so much I can’t hold any more and even holding in for a second gets me blazed. Mondo notice though and I know the mighty is meant for king draws but the vapor really doesn’t fill up on my lungs until the 7 minute mark. Am I supposed to be filling my lungs up with vapor? Cuz compared to 6 months ago a simple 8 second draw sucked in fast with the mighty barely feels like it fills my lungs up. I know I have my issues off and on and I’m sorry for that.every 3 months when I go to get re certified the doctor keeps saying never hold in your hits and there’s no reason to take long draws so I keep going back and fourth wjth experimenting again. So aside from the lack of vapor occasionally lets just say it i he bud as far as me not getting as high as I once did could it because I’m not pushing my lung capacity?
     
  11. invertedisdead

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    It honestly took me years of vaporizing before it truly hit me that smoking and vaping are complete polar opposites.

    @Mookie0608 here's something you may find interesting, a study done with the Storz & Bickel Volcano over a decade ago demonstrated that on average, over 30% THC was being exhaled into the atmosphere! That's many times more THC being lost to the air, than you could ever ingest by smoking!

    I would definitely suggest trying to absorb more of that vapor by holding it in, just be sure to breathe out before anything starts to get uncomfortable.

    I'd also abandon your timed hits, too much variation for that to be a reliable method when consuming dried herbs. The humidity differences between two strains could make one 10 second hit from one nug produce substantially less vapor than the other, and that's assuming they are equally resinous. Compound that with some herb that may not be peak medical grade and it's absolutely possible this is accounting for some of your less than stellar experiences. Timed hits only works well with concentrate pens in my experience.

    I highly recommend giving this technique a try, it's been a game changer for a few of my buds on here. https://healer.com/programs/the-secret-breath/
     
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  12. FabulatorPoeta

    FabulatorPoeta Where has the time gone?

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    It does take time to transit from smoking to vaporizing indeed. Excellent information about the breathing exercise. I really like Dr Sulak. Thank you @invertedisdead
     
  13. Mookie0608

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    Wow that’s awesome thanks so much. I have to even keep a log on how much I consume etc the dispensary gives me it’s not something u have to do by law they just keep telling me it’s how the monitwr what works for me and too make sure I’m not abusing the medicine. They log everything I buy too and how often I get it. I didn’t get as high as I prefer last night smoking but one thing I do no because I smoked first then later on vaped the vape added a little boost but the body high from smoking was strong and on par with head high when I vaped an hour later body high never got as strong as it was. I’m not saying I was really high smoking I was probably like a 3 but the body high was more noticeable. That video was nice though.


    Actually as a note this strain I got I’m feeling like I waisted my money it’s the purple urkel that I used to be in love with. I tried another strain it went back into my inventory got something that was about 26% in thc and a world of a difference one hit got me higher then 2 hits if purple urkel. I used to love that amazing body feeling. The dispensary I got it from can’t twll me what terpenes are in it they don’t know so I can try to compare it to another’s high thc strain that is very similar. So I kind of am thinking now the higher the thc is it the better off I am because I’m not getting the same jntense high I ince did befriend u even touched a 20% strain. Actually cbd Doesn’t even help the same way anymore as the mid 20s in thc.

    And actually a friend of mine well actually no my girl friend has a busted shoulder she tried the true og I had and omg she was pain free forms good 1-2 hours. But to get that relief she needed a lot of hits and she actually did get a little anxious and scared but she said the pain relief was worth being just about unfunctional and it felt amazing. So that makes me wonder if I really need to just stop being a baby about it and try to push my limits as far as I can go because after her saying that and me remembering in the beginning when I first started getting high there were a few times I got behind really high and I was completely pain free.
     
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  14. Roth

    Roth Pining for the Mountains

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    Agreed that you should abandon timing your hits. Way too many variables and it doesn't tell you anything that useful imo.
     
  15. Mookie0608

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    My whole thing in why I started timing it was because the “mandatory marijuana eduacation classes” told me to time it so I know how much I’m getting where if 1 hit I get really high and the next I’m not high enough or where I want to be timing it makes it so u can better accurately determine your dose. Even my vape pen and cartridge came with instructions I barely use it but it says each 1 second draw delivers about 1-2 mg of thc per second.
     
  16. His_Highness

    His_Highness In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king

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    If you're having an issue getting cloudy you might want to stop using the capsules and see if that helps. In some of my vapes a capsule works 'ok' unless I really allow a decent heat soak. Even a convection vape like the Mighty can be hindered a bit by a capsule.
     
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  17. Mookie0608

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    They were amazing when I first started using them just because of my issues. I get frustrated easily all though now I find my self saving all the capsules and h loading thek all at one time but being dirty was the main issue I got the capsules, but one thing I have noticed is when I don’t use a capsule the draw resistance was much easier and lower and the bud lasted a little longer but some things annoy me. I said a lot of bad about my pax because it actually was more difficult to use then when I got the mighty and I could never get that small quick 2-3 second draw down like they recommend. I have a bit of a learning disability and it takes time for me to understand things unless explained the right way. The thing I hated the most about the pax was u would think I wasn’t smoking that’s how bad it stunk and how long the smell lingered. It was literally as bad as smoking a Joint. The thing I loved the most about it is the bowl size packing was easier so was empty the bud out into my avb jar. I hate how the mighty is more time consuming for me or better words to put it I wish I could vape with the mighty style but it had the pax bowl. I get irritated easily and I have so much accessories now for my mighty.
     
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  19. YaMon

    YaMon Vaping since 2010

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    @Mookie0608 how many Mighty cooling units do you own? When was the last time you cleaned your cooling unit? How long have you had your mighty? Have you replaced the gaskets on the cooling unit?

    I agree with ceasing timing how long your draws are. Many say holding a draw makes no difference, but I am old school and having tried both holding and not holding my hits, I hold them! Wait 20 minutes after a hit to gauge whether you need another.

    I also agree you could benefit from a strong desktop vaporizer such as the FlowerPot or the Herbalizer
     
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  20. Mookie0608

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    I replace the o rings if that’s what u mean recently about 2 months ago and clean th as well. I have 2 top cooling units and try to clean them once a week. I usually wait 10 minutes. I’m weird I feel like if I keep waiting more then 10 minutes or keep going back over the course of 30 minutes the high Will eventually be weak no sooner taken my 3rd draw the first one will probably be winding down. The only time a high has not ended within 20inutes at least the peak or intensity is when I got so high I was u comfortable. When I hold the hit send in long it def does feel different more dizzy but a different next level intense body feeling more down the lines of that heavy body feeling when swimming in a pool for awhile.
     
  21. YaMon

    YaMon Vaping since 2010

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    If you hold the hit too long you will be oxygen deprived which may cause the light headed feeling.

    Given you are working with a clean Mighty, see if you can at least try a strong desktop vape such as those previously suggested.
     
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  22. Mookie0608

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    In will try that as well I sold my firefly so I’ll see if I can find one affordable. I actually had my new vaporizer narrowed down to mighty or volcano but I really can’t afford $500, and I would prefer to not have a torch involved. I have hit a volcano once but I also found out it was not my preferred temperature it was literally like 315 range just enough to melt the thc.

    Actually I baked to ugly tried something different I read something about the mighty capsules getting clogged fast so set a screen to the top of the bud got a ton of vapor took a long draw and I’m incredibly stoned but yeah I’m still in pain and the body buzz is so weak compared to string head high so I may just not be able to get relief wjth lower thc anymore. The body buzz in Tibet things higher in thc was stronger than this and less of a hated head high.
     
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  23. FabulatorPoeta

    FabulatorPoeta Where has the time gone?

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  24. Jimmyweaese

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    If you er ever wanted to buy another tabletop. I have a Vapolution 2.Call company they might stock some old ones. They now sell a vape 3.
    I have a Vapolution 2 that has never let me down. 100 % dependable. The most basic vape ever made. It was my first vape,after 40 yrs combustion. Still amazes to this day.
     
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  25. little maggie

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    I may be the only one this happens to but I sometimes habituate with a specific vape and switch to another for a while. My vapes are less expensive than yours but seem to be powerful. You might consider a backup vape that has adjustable heat. If you want to try a vapcap without flames as I did there are heaters that are made for the vapcap.
    A desktop might be worth trying- especially a log vape. (woodscent, hi, underdog) I tend to use a simple vapor brothers box because I like whips.
    In terms of adjustable vapes the ones I own that create the largest clouds are the ones that use box mods: splinters, iheat.
     
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