Very well said bro, i'm so happy that you GET it Who cares what the marketing or science is, as long as you and I understand that it's different from all other vapes for the most part. I would be able to detect this vapour in a blind taste test! lol It's just that smooth, tasty, and effective.... the size of the clouds are such surreal. I'm loving the Sup and Sub equally at this point, and have my eye on the Eliminator, which is like a Sup without a thermometer... but I just have to check it out! Now that i'm exploring the world of concentrates and enails.... now I have an Errlectric and flowerpot on the list for VAS too lol And add that to the Herborizer Ti! That errlectric herb nail looks awesome! Have you tried the "convection experience" with the Sup3 yet? Like with a glass bowl/screen and the Sup empty?