The Magic-Flight Box

[Monsoon]

I'm extremely impressed with the launch box design and its functioning. The only thing I haven't figured out yet is unloading... I can't seem to unload it without making a bit of a mess.

Shake the box first to loosen all the material, then open the lid and pour it into a container. I use canned air to clear off any particles and then wipe it with the brush if needed.

Yes the PowerEx batteries are a good tight fit, no contact issues. Buy some 1" hockey tape (good kind not dollar store) and tape once around the bottom inch of battery. This allows a good grip to pull battery back out and allows you to visually see if the battery is connected or not by the gap between the tape and LB side wall. Use only a single layer of tape or you might have issues putting it in a charger, also the C9000 charger uses temperature as one of its determining factors of a full charge so you don't want to insulate the battery too much.

Thanks, I was thinking about trying that. I still think it's too snug regardless but maybe the wood will loosen a bit with time so they'll fit better.

 

[Qbit]

Hey MagicFlight,

I'm definitely up for one of these, but I'm in Australia, and I'm wondering what difference there would be in the price of having the unit shipped together with the upcoming power supply and having them shipped separately.

It's just that I have a 5-day Summer doof (electronic music festival) in the middle of January, and I'd definitely need the unit by then. But I'm nervous about waiting for the power supply before ordering to save on P&H, as we're coming up to the worst time of the year for mail.

AnnaK (a few posts ago) had to wait a month for hers. I think she implied she was in Canada, so I'm wondering what the holdup would have been. Canadian customs? When I received my Purple Days unit about 3 months ago the shipping from Pammy and Tom in Oregon to my post office here in Melbourne took a mere 4 working days, so I'm not too worried about our customs causing delays.

 

[Monsoon]

I believe it's mostly a customs issue. Some packages go right through customs, others are randomly selected to be inspected and then customs require taxes to be collected upon arrival. It's possible Australia customs are more efficient or it passed through without inspection.

 

[magicflight]

Hi Qbit,

The postal situation is a bit random -- we never know whether something will go directly through or will be held somewhere in customs. We ship everything the same way, same declarations, etc. For international orders, we have had some packages go through in days and others take weeks. Packages to canada and Brazil seem to be the worst. My recommendation would be to not wait for the power module. There are still a few 'hoops' that the power supply device must pass before we will be permitted to release them.

-- Magic-flight

Hey MagicFlight,

I'm definitely up for one of these, but I'm in Australia, and I'm wondering what difference there would be in the price of having the unit shipped together with the upcoming power supply and having them shipped separately.

It's just that I have a 5-day Summer doof (electronic music festival) in the middle of January, and I'd definitely need the unit by then. But I'm nervous about waiting for the power supply before ordering to save on P&H, as we're coming up to the worst time of the year for mail....

 

[bluntfaced]

Got mine off my front poerch about 5 minutes ago, just cashed my first bowl almost

this thing fucking rules!!
Thanks vapenow for the free 2 day air mail

can't wait to ski with this and see what other random places I can get keyed

 

[Neverender]

Juuuust received mine in the mail and had to give it a try......interesting experience.

Blissville were awesome enough to have already charged my batteries, so upon opening I decided to give it a go! Got my herb, cut it up, loaded the trench, stuck the battery in and..... nothing. I tried for a good 10 minutes to get it working; switching the batteries, taking a lot of "nothing" hits, tapping it, and then just when I was about to blame it on the batteries and charge them again, I figured out that I was just being a whimp with it and hadn't been pushing the batteries in all the way....

Anyways, upon pushing the battery in, it started to go! I was stoked and rushed the box to my lips and took a massive hit. I was very confused/surprised for even my SSV had never gave me a hit like that. I went with it anyways and took another hit (I left the battery in contact as I figured a quick three hits would be okay...) or two before taking out the battery. And low and behold, my herb was nothing but ashy black! I HAD COMBUSTED! Majorly, indeed... I was going rather slow on the draw speed, but from what I had read, it seemed like it was incredibly hard to make this little box burn, so I didn't think much of it while doing it.

So... Do I just have a hot box on my hands or was it probably just how slow I was pulling?

Also, did I damage the screen at all by getting nasty black ash all over the place?

 

[Monsoon]

Neverender, read my post on page 37, my box was acting the same way. You need to take the battery out as soon as the hit is finished and try to shake it between hits. Tapping the box should loosen it and then spraying some canned air (at a distance) should get most of it out.

 

[bluntfaced]

Mine certainly is a little blackened but other pieces are green. Not very consistent being that it's mostly a conduction vape. Whatever though, I'm about to make some bomb tincture. From what I've read they run a little hot at first.

 

[rayski]

So... Do I just have a hot box on my hands or was it probably just how slow I was pulling?

Also, did I damage the screen at all by getting nasty black ash all over the place?

Try pulling out the battery when you stop inhaling; And turning the lb over, tapping and shaking it before taking the next hit will dislodge and disperse pieces that stick to the screen and begin to char.
Use the brush included on the screen and it should be fine.

 

[aero18]

Mine certainly is a little blackened but other pieces are green. Not very consistent being that it's mostly a conduction vape. Whatever though, I'm about to make some bomb tincture. From what I've read they run a little hot at first.

Mine never ran that hot. In fact, my problem was making the greens turn to brown! It just depends on how long you leave the battery in there. I have a habit of pulling out the battery at the first sign of vapor.

Oh, and a bump to my request:

"Can someone weigh out a half of a trench of herb, ground pretty well, in a scale sensitive to .001 grams?

If it is sensitive to .01 grams, that's okay, but it would be better if I could get a more accurate reading. I want to see how it stacks up against the efficiency of the Purple Days."

Don't want that request to get lost in the sea of replies.

 

[VaporNinja]

So I finally decided to write up a review for the LB after 3 months of daily use.

I just took 3 hits off my launch box, and I'm feeling GOOD

Pro:
-Produce great tasting vapor, taste alot better than vaporgenie and iolite. The first few hits are comparable to the PD hits (convection vape), even though the LB is a conduction vape
-Small and concealable
-Instant heat-up, get medicated Anywhere, Anytime, within in a few seconds!
-Very efficient, a full trench can last me a few session through-out the day when I'm using some high-grade herbs.
-Great Customer service!

Con:
-NONE

 

[Qbit]

Hi Qbit,

The postal situation is a bit random -- we never know whether something will go directly through or will be held somewhere in customs. We ship everything the same way, same declarations, etc. For international orders, we have had some packages go through in days and others take weeks. Packages to canada and Brazil seem to be the worst. My recommendation would be to not wait for the power module. There are still a few 'hoops' that the power supply device must pass before we will be permitted to release them.

-- Magic-flight

Hey MagicFlight,

I'm definitely up for one of these, but I'm in Australia, and I'm wondering what difference there would be in the price of having the unit shipped together with the upcoming power supply and having them shipped separately.

It's just that I have a 5-day Summer doof (electronic music festival) in the middle of January, and I'd definitely need the unit by then. But I'm nervous about waiting for the power supply before ordering to save on P&H, as we're coming up to the worst time of the year for mail....

Ok thanks for the advice. However, I just checked Blissville, and there doesn't seem to be extra batteries in the product list. And I definitely remember seeing them there before. Any idea why this might be? I've read in this thread that your house batteries are the ones to go for, and I'd much rather stick with the tried-and-true.

 

[DeepFried]

I've read in this thread that your house batteries are the ones to go for, and I'd much rather stick with the tried-and-true.

Can you please tell me where you read this? For months I have been trying to steer users towards PowerEx 2700 mah batteries because they are far superior.

 

[Neverender]

Neverender, read my post on page 37, my box was acting the same way. You need to take the battery out as soon as the hit is finished and try to shake it between hits. Tapping the box should loosen it and then spraying some canned air (at a distance) should get most of it out.

After using the box a few more times last night () it was not blackening as much as my first time, but black pieces throughout the trenches was common. I suppose this just wasn't what I was expecting when I purchased the box...

Don't get me wrong, it definitely got the job done, but because of the blackening issues I'm having, its bringing down the whole "stealth" factor for me, as mine is constantly giving off a faint, nasty, burning smell/taste when using. I suppose I'll just have to get my draw speed down better..

The instructions also got me super paranoid about the screen - is it cool to blow back into box to clear all the abv?

 

[Qbit]

I've read in this thread that your house batteries are the ones to go for, and I'd much rather stick with the tried-and-true.

Can you please tell me where you read this? For months I have been trying to steer users towards PowerEx 2700 mah batteries because they are far superior.

Hmm, Ok I'll look into those. They're kind of pricey though - I remember the ones at Blissville being quite easy on the hip-pocket. I had been considering buying up to a dozen of them. Sure, having high charge batteries is nice, but bang-for-buck is the main concern for me. Does the high charge of the PowerExes really offest their expense?

 

[DeepFried]

Does the high charge of the PowerExes really offest their expense?

For me yes by far. Stock batteries last max 1 trench and you need to pull pretty slow on your draw. With PowerEx 2700's I can get 4 trenches out of 1 charged battery and for the first 2 trenches you can pull fairly hard with your breath to keep it in the perfect vape zone and prevent it from combusting. I also use the C9000 charger and am not sure about their performance using any other charger.

 

[bluntfaced]

Can I get dope batteries like that but use a slow overnight charger? There is no disadvantage to slow chargers except they take longer right? You don't have to worry about overcharging either right?

 

[magicflight]

I just checked Blissville, and there doesn't seem to be extra batteries in the product list. And I definitely remember seeing them there before. Any idea why this might be? I've read in this thread that your house batteries are the ones to go for, and I'd much rather stick with the tried-and-true.

Hi Qbit,

There was a (fortunately temporary) back-order from our supplier of the batteries -- they will be in stock again at the BlissSville site again by tomorrow afternoon. Usually we have extra of everything on hand, but we have been getting a larger number of orders than expected -- probably holiday related.

-- Magic-flight

 

[magicflight]

For months I have been trying to steer users towards PowerEx 2700 mah batteries because they are far superior.

It is true that our stock batteries are very good, but they are not the absolute best. We have even considered switching over, and have not done so yet because it would necessitate an increase in the overall product price.

-- Magic-flight

 

[magicflight]

The instructions also got me super paranoid about the screen - is it cool to blow back into box to clear all the abv?

Yes. The screen is not that fragile -- you can use the brush too. Opening the Box lid and blowing directly into it sharply is usually enough to clear everything. We emphasize the screen in the instructions as there are some purchasers who are less than mechanically adept and need to be told -- else they will likely crash the screen.

Also, a couple of tips that may help you. Don't wait to start drawing on the Box. As soon as you put the battery in, begin drawing on it right away. Then, as soon as you stop drawing, take the battery out. The Box truly is fast -- leaving the battery in for even a few seconds when not drawing on it can make a big difference in taste. You want a longish and steady even draw -- 10 to 20 seconds. Some people (who want it hotter) will sip, wait, and sip again alternately, leaving the battery in the whole time -- this is not for you. For you, the key is going to be long and steady.

Finally, remember to shake the Box between hits. Turn it completely upside down (lid closed) and give it a tap or two -- check to see all specks of material is freed from the screen and then shake vigorously side to side to completely stir. Anything that sticks to the screen and does not participate in the mixing is going to get darker faster than the bulk of the load, and this will affect the taste also.

Getting ultimate performance with the Box is a bit of an art form -- like playing a musical instrument. Metaphorically, of all of the classical instruments, the Box is perhaps most like playing a flute. It can do just about anything you want, but especially good results does depend on the skill of the operator. The three factors of timing, breath control, and a variety of content mixing are the key to a great performance. As with the flute, nearly anyone can play something, and yet it is also an instrument worthy of classical mastery.

Let us know how this plays out for you

All the Best,
-- Magic-flight

 

[magicflight]

Does the high charge of the PowerExes really offest their expense?

For me yes by far. Stock batteries last max 1 trench and you need to pull pretty slow on your draw. With PowerEx 2700's I can get 4 trenches out of 1 charged battery and for the first 2 trenches you can pull fairly hard with your breath to keep it in the perfect vape zone and prevent it from combusting. I also use the C9000 charger and am not sure about their performance using any other charger.

Note, DeepFried does mention here an important usage note. The PowerEx batteries will operate the Box hotter as well as longer. Because of the significantly increased heat, the timing and breath control of the user must be proportionately more accurate to prevent overheating (changes taste). We strongly recommend that new users become skilled with the stock batteries before trying higher energy density batteries.

-- Magic-flight

 

[magicflight]

Can I get dope batteries like that but use a slow overnight charger? There is no disadvantage to slow chargers except they take longer right? You don't have to worry about overcharging either right?

Slow chargers (like the one provided in the Box kit bundle) should be fine to use. The main disadvantage to them is that they may take a longer time to charge batteries with higher capacity.

 

[Monsoon]

After mostly using stock batteries for a week, I tried the PowerEx again and I'm finding they're getting stuck less. They do tend to get hotter too compared to the stock batteries as I notice the temperature increases as I draw. But in that case you probably need shorter draws too.

For charging I'm using the Maha C401FS which works great. I just pop the battery in after I drain one so that keeps them all nicely charged and ready to go.

Anyone have experience using legal herbs in there as well? I was thinking about trying lavender or other anxiety reducing herbs.

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And a quick question to MF or people here: Is it okay to run the box with an empty trench to burn off any residual particles that the brush misses to keep it clean?

 

[magicflight]

A quick question to MF or people here: Is it okay to run the box with an empty trench to burn off any residual particles that the brush misses to keep it clean?

Yes that is fine. Just be sure that the battery does not get too hot -- do not leave it in too long (ie, not more than 60 seconds).

 

[chloe]

A quick question to MF or people here: Is it okay to run the box with an empty trench to burn off any residual particles that the brush misses to keep it clean?

Yes that is fine. Just be sure that the battery does not get too hot -- do not leave it in too long (ie, not more than 60 seconds).

whoa..i've left it in more than 60secs b4 when passing it back n forth continuously....is it detrimental to the battery, to the box or to yourself (cuz of the hot battery)?