Phase3 Vaporizers
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madhockeydad
Art is beauty
From the Phase 3 website description of the new bowl:
Custom Ultra Low Profile 22MM Tapered Diffuser Bowl Fits All 18MM Glass [2 Adjustable Screen Positions]
Sure looks like there is going to be the taper!!! I'm super excited that he is doing it that way. I think optimizing for the best experience was my vote.
Z-Tribe Maddy High Def
How long ago were you looking? The price looks the same to me?Of course, on the day I finally decided to go for an ZX the price goes up - just my luck
Its 300USD for the ZX Plug&Play Bundle for me, yesterday it was 250 - just checked again.
madhockeydad
Art is beauty
Are you sure you didn't confuse the ZXL bundle for $250 with the ZX bundle for $300. I think the ZX bundle has stayed the same price. They are different as the ZX bundle has the coil installed.
LordOfTheVapes
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Just want to back up what @xerop said; I've been eyeing P3 vapes for a bit and seriously considered purchasing the recent ZX Plug-&-Play Bundle for $250, which is now $300; held off after seeing the ZXXL
It was absolutely 100% 250USD the last weeks until today, already got it in the shopping cart for shipping calculations and so on.
nicknobody
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I’ve been drooling over the zx kit too. Trying to sell some other vapes (I hate having too much stuff) before clicking check out
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It’s possible I had *do not include PID* checked. Can’t remember honestly but I thought I remembered same price as you
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Sorry I forgot to answer this.
My webstore can only show a count if it’s not listed as a preorder, I guess I should have done it that way and just put a preorder banner up. I’ll mess around and see if I can edit the current orders and change that.
As of now we’re 30% of the way towards our goal of pre selling 25 units. I haven’t posted anything on my Instagram yet so that might help push things forward!
Yes! It has a tapered connection for a real seal, just like laboratory glass.
Also thermodynamically speaking it will literally have more heat retention than any other wireless due to the dense material choice. It’s interesting to see wireless vapes made of commercially pure titanium, a material known for its light weight and lack of mass
if you want to do more hits per bowl you can just turn the temperature way down. That’s the beauty of PID control.
No, a physically larger device with more mass is always going to take longer to change temps than a smaller + lighter device as these coils are all operating at the same wattage.
You can use as little as you want in the ZXL but I wouldn’t say it’s better than the ZX for anything under 0.2g
Ryan and me just had a misunderstanding. Its all good, i re-ordered and everyone is happy
Cheers dude!
Of course, on the day I finally decided to go for an ZX the price goes up - just my luck
Yes prices are going up to account for all my rising expenses. I meant to post about this coming the other day but my internet has been out and I guess I forgot. Sorry about that - Still cheaper than any well regarded portable with incomparable power and purity. Seen plenty of Dynavap stems sell by themselves for more than my medical grade plug & play ZX kit. I figure if a complete ZX kit isn’t worth $300 they will just be discontinued to make room for something more sustainable.
If you’re ready to join the Z Tribe use code GRACIAS during checkout.
I’d recommend jumping in the pool before they are gone forever. This is an industry where most of the sales are on the entry level. These type of boutique products are truly not sustainable and without people buying them the availability will dry up eventually.
Look at all the work involved in trying to bring a product to market which I’m only hoping to sell 50 units. Based on ZXL data it could take 6 months to a year to sell that many. This is not a smart investment for this company it’s a nod to the community who knows nobody else will even attempt it (because it’s not profitable)
The price of the ZXXL has a lot to do with all the sales I won’t be getting by offering such a boutique specialty product. And it’s still less than a Venty. Not comparing, just saying.
Hmm
If only we could have the weekend to complete the deal?
Keep up the good work
Use code GRACIAS if you’re ready to roll!
But yeah prices are going up to $300, that’s actually where they started, not really an increase per say. All these lower prices have been super extended promos trying to grow the brand, which in retrospect didn’t really work that well but we tried and had some fun along the way
Flavor Vaper
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Hey Ryan, wondering if a certain check-out method is cheaper for you…
@invertedisdead
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This is a great discount code, but I think it might apply to things you don't want it to. Just thought you'd like the heads up. I doubt you'll be sending out glass bowls for the cost of shipping.
I actually have anxiety about a world where the ZX no longer exists, and I haven't even taken delivery of mine yetSorry I forgot to answer this.
My webstore can only show a count if it’s not listed as a preorder, I guess I should have done it that way and just put a preorder banner up. I’ll mess around and see if I can edit the current orders and change that.
As of now we’re 30% of the way towards our goal of pre selling 25 units. I haven’t posted anything on my Instagram yet so that might help push things forward!
Yes! It has a tapered connection for a real seal, just like laboratory glass.
Also thermodynamically speaking it will literally have more heat retention than any other wireless due to the dense material choice. It’s interesting to see wireless vapes made of commercially pure titanium, a material known for its light weight and lack of mass
if you want to do more hits per bowl you can just turn the temperature way down. That’s the beauty of PID control.
No, a physically larger device with more mass is always going to take longer to change temps than a smaller + lighter device as these coils are all operating at the same wattage.
You can use as little as you want in the ZXL but I wouldn’t say it’s better than the ZX for anything under 0.2g
Cheers dude!
Yes prices are going up to account for all my rising expenses. I meant to post about this coming the other day but my internet has been out and I guess I forgot. Sorry about that - Still cheaper than any well regarded portable with incomparable power and purity. Seen plenty of Dynavap stems sell by themselves for more than my medical grade plug & play ZX kit. I figure if a complete ZX kit isn’t worth $300 they will just be discontinued to make room for something more sustainable.
If you’re ready to join the Z Tribe use code GRACIAS during checkout.
I’d recommend jumping in the pool before they are gone forever. This is an industry where most of the sales are on the entry level. These type of boutique products are truly not sustainable and without people buying them the availability will dry up eventually.
Look at all the work involved in trying to bring a product to market which I’m only hoping to sell 50 units. Based on ZXL data it could take 6 months to a year to sell that many. This is not a smart investment for this company it’s a nod to the community who knows nobody else will even attempt it (because it’s not profitable)
The price of the ZXXL has a lot to do with all the sales I won’t be getting by offering such a boutique specialty product. And it’s still less than a Venty. Not comparing, just saying.
Use code GRACIAS if you’re ready to roll!
But yeah prices are going up to $300, that’s actually where they started, not really an increase per say. All these lower prices have been super extended promos trying to grow the brand, which in retrospect didn’t really work that well but we tried and had some fun along the way
I think it's because it really is my perfect ball vape, that seems designed to avoid every single bug bear I had for ball vapes.I can see myself buying a spare in the future. I would definitely pick up any 16mm wireless variants also.
LordOfTheVapes
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Thanks for the reminder to follow you on Instagram
What is the max capacity of the ZXLB and ZXXLB?
If you’re ready to join the Z Tribe use code GRACIAS during checkout.
Really appreciate this! Truly!
+1
add1noob
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After going through other zirconia vapes, I've noticed an issue with threaded caps cracking. Has the ZXXL been designed to address this? Would it be possible to design it to accept both the threaded cap and stainless steel screens? It seems that the issues with zirconia cracking are primarily associated with threaded components, which could potentially affect the handles as well. It may be worth seeing if you can thicken the threads, and flatten the ends slightly to reduce the chances of chipping. Also, increasing the wall thickness, even if it reduces the size of the ruby chamber, might be beneficial and given zirconia's density the reduction in rubies shouldn't be a significant compromise. Although I would be disappointed to see the threaded parts go, I'm willing to accept this compromise for increased longevity and robustness. Keep in mind I'm not familiar with the manufacturing process so I'm not sure what is and isn't possible.
LordOfTheVapes
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Sorry to put you on the spot like this but do you have any pictures of this issue? I've never seen it. I hope we won't have to treat the ZXXL too gently.
add1noob
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I couldn't find any pictures but there might be some out there. More information can be found in the Zeal and Ω thread or the Cloud Connoisseur Discord. From what I gathered the issue didn't affect every unit and there was a design update to address the problem but the device has since been discontinued. It appears the issue could have been caused by thermal expansion, the lid being screwed on too tightly, or frequent removal and replacement of the lid. Zirconia is hard but it is also brittle.
They both rip me off but thanks for asking
Technically it’s better to use my other “Credit/Debit checkout” for a number of reasons but I still have PP turned on for convenience and popularity.
This is a great discount code, but I think it might apply to things you don't want it to. Just thought you'd like the heads up. I doubt you'll be sending out glass bowls for the cost of shipping.
Whoops
That actually happened too lol
I meant to just apply it to the plug and play kits. Kinda forgot those glass bowls were even on the website. I haven’t used my glass bowl since the ultra low profile zirconia came in. Appreciate the heads up my friend!
I actually have anxiety about a world where the ZX no longer exists, and I haven't even taken delivery of mine yet
I can see myself buying a spare in the future. I would definitely pick up any 16mm wireless variants also.
Cheers friend!
Luckily your incoming ZX should pretty much last forever. Anything consumable is open source from other industries and easy enough to find.
I might consider doing a run of my wireless ZX design in the future. I could roll them out pretty easy as it’s a much simpler design than the ZXXL and could use the existing 14MM ZXBowls.
If the ZXXL project doesn’t receive enough backing maybe not worth trying though.
The ZXL can easily handle 0.5G+
I don’t remember the exact area of the ZXXL bowl off the top of my head but I’ll try and get that information. My internet has been down so I have (poor) cellular service, but I can’t use my laptop to access any of my designs in the cloud. Should be fixed today though. My internets gone out every month since I moved and I’m tired of it lol.
Unfortunately for me the vape you are referring to caused a lot of people to avoid my products. I never tried one but I still get emails about this. From what I’ve seen and read I have to wonder if they were even zirconia. They also cracked sitting on those heat post stands.
In comparison, to my knowledge, PHASE3 has never experienced a single ceramic part failure, ever.
Thermal expansion is usually a problem with dissimilar materials.
If thermal expansion was the problem I would think the housing themselves should also crack when the coil cools and contracts down on it. This is how my earlier glass versions would fail.
I think we can’t gloss over the plausibility of them simply being defective parts. The price was surprisingly low to me as I had already done extensive research and due diligence on ceramics manufacturing when I released the first zirconia desktop, the PHASE3 Z8.
The early ZXXL just used screens on the inlet and outlet like the rest of the family. It was also supposed to share the same bowl as the ZXL to keep the ecosystem centralized. But I figured the demand would probably be pretty low for the 25MM so better to just go all out with it and make it really cool. These 25MM designs are limited in what you can do and still accept this axial coil configuration adapted from bangers.
namasteIII
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Are there any compatible controllers (DNail Pinout) that are either prettier, easier to use, or smaller? Or are the all just the same design as the one offered in the Plug-&-Play Bundle?
madhockeydad
Art is beauty
Auber, D-Nail, and Disorderly Conduction all work with the coils I've received from Phase 3.
These are the ones I used to sell but I had to switch to the cheaper ones to create a more cost competitive bundle.
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namasteIII
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Thanks. Does the the auber RDK-300B work? It looks a little big, but seems like the nicest design I have seen.
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This is the PID controller I use most often and used exclusively and quite successfully with my ZX and SX.Thanks. Does the the auber RDK-300B work? It looks a little big, but seems like the nicest design I have seen.
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