ive been smoking weed in bong since 1 year now ive switched to a vaporiser. my vape was not getting
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kellya86
Herb gardener...
Hi there @ssb46 , welcome to fc.
I need to ask some questions first.
What vape are you using?
Are you mixing tobacco into yor bong mix.?
Do you smoke cigarettes on their own.
If done right, vaping will wipe the floor with you.
Unfortunately what you are used to is oxygen deprevation, carbon monoxide poisening, and benzene poisening. Among many other nasty compounds.
Once you get past this, vaping opens up a whole new world of this magical herb. And with the long slow draws needed to vape, and the irritation on the throat, I don't think you will miss your bong too much.
I need to ask some questions first.
What vape are you using?
Are you mixing tobacco into yor bong mix.?
Do you smoke cigarettes on their own.
If done right, vaping will wipe the floor with you.
Unfortunately what you are used to is oxygen deprevation, carbon monoxide poisening, and benzene poisening. Among many other nasty compounds.
Once you get past this, vaping opens up a whole new world of this magical herb. And with the long slow draws needed to vape, and the irritation on the throat, I don't think you will miss your bong too much.
Chezgreendream
First the flavor, then the buZzz settles in....
Annnnnddd this is why I vape.
In all seriousness cut the cigs and slow the bongs, they are not contributing to your wellness.
Live long and vape on
1DMF
Old School Cheesy Quaver
This has nothing to do with vaping or weed.... YES!!!!!
I recommend to anyone who smokes cigarettes, firstly cut out the combusting and secondly cut out the nicotine.
As a hardcore smoker for 35+ years, before I found FC & vaping, but have now given up smoking for several months, that's a big fat YES!!!!
Quitting tobacco (nicotine) and giving up smoking (combusting) is one of the best things I have done in a long, long time.
Do yourself, your wallet, your family and those around you a favour and quit the fags!
Welcome to FC and good luck with your journey to becoming a combustion fucker just like me
nondarb
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Jesus Christ.. Is that even a thing? 15+ years I've never heard of that stateside. I knew they mixed tobacco in spliffs but not bongs...
OP, don't be so quick to get rid of that bong! Give it a good cleaning and repurpose it for vaporizer use!!! Not sure what vape you're using but most have a gong of some sort available, if not a small length of silicone will be most vapes need.
In regard to cigarettes, kick em. Try e-cigs to taper you off. If not for anything else your tastebuds will thankyou, I was amazed at the world of difference from when I quit. Nicotene free since '12.
1DMF
Old School Cheesy Quaver
Do you use a WT (Water Tool) - bubbler with your Da Vinci?
I have a Da Vinci Ascent (what's yours) and although it has some foibles, getting you hammered has never been a problem for me...
What are you filling it with?
How much are you using?
Are you using any glass flowers or spacers?
What temp are you using?
What stem are you using?
I'd head to the Da Vinci thread for info and advice on getting the best out of that device, I'm still perfecting the way I use mine and I've had it a few months!
I have a Da Vinci Ascent (what's yours) and although it has some foibles, getting you hammered has never been a problem for me...
What are you filling it with?
How much are you using?
Are you using any glass flowers or spacers?
What temp are you using?
What stem are you using?
I'd head to the Da Vinci thread for info and advice on getting the best out of that device, I'm still perfecting the way I use mine and I've had it a few months!
kellya86
Herb gardener...
@ssb46 I would defer to @1DMF for his davinci knowledge, he will help you better than me.
@nondarb don't be so shocked. We Europeans think nothing of contaminating out flowers with tobacco, I know it's wrong now, but it's how we were bought up, we don't know any better, well I do now. But most people are still mixing.
Slightly off topic, but I was reading a 13 year olds biology school book, when I came across the drug section, there was a table of drugs and effects and damages.
All fair enough and educational. Until I got to cannabis, they state that cannabis causes cancer. Under closer inspection they had grouped cannabis with tobacco. This enrages me. Cannabis does not caus cancer, why group it with something that does, just to lie to our kids. Cannabis is harmless, and they can't have that, so they do this. Aaarrrg, it annoys me so much. I hate my country. I will post a pic later of the page to annoy you too.
@nondarb don't be so shocked. We Europeans think nothing of contaminating out flowers with tobacco, I know it's wrong now, but it's how we were bought up, we don't know any better, well I do now. But most people are still mixing.
Slightly off topic, but I was reading a 13 year olds biology school book, when I came across the drug section, there was a table of drugs and effects and damages.
All fair enough and educational. Until I got to cannabis, they state that cannabis causes cancer. Under closer inspection they had grouped cannabis with tobacco. This enrages me. Cannabis does not caus cancer, why group it with something that does, just to lie to our kids. Cannabis is harmless, and they can't have that, so they do this. Aaarrrg, it annoys me so much. I hate my country. I will post a pic later of the page to annoy you too.
nondarb
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Strange the two are so closely associated there. Even when I was a tobacco user the combination never enticed me, I've always heard of the spliff combo but it seems like tobacco in a bong would be cough city..
I know you're looking for someone to say "yes, I smoke cigarettes, and I love my vaporizer". I'm sure there are a few out there. But you are on a website called "FuckCombustion" @kellya86 said it best
That instant headrush you get from taking a big bong rip is caused more so by these other toxic chemicals and not cannabis itself. The key is you have to cut smoking out so your body can detox if you want vaporizing to work. It takes several weeks for your body (and mind) to adjust to what it means to be high from cannabis, and what it means to be high from smoking.
As I mentioned before, I do not smoke cigarettes, never have. For me it was an easy switch to vaporizing - loaded my Davinci Ascent full and then sipped away for 30 minutes. Took a few days but holy hell was I getting medicated.
It is important however to keep in mind that many vaporizers will not work properly if not optimally loaded. I suggest consulting the product specific thread on this site and reading the last 20-30 pages to read all the latest tips & tricks on that vape.
If say 95% of australian tokers do it this way, most claim its smoother and won't smoke MJ in a bong without baccy.
SavedByTheVape
Well-Known Member
nondarb
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Madness!
ataxian
PALE BLUE DOT
Cannabis is so wonderful!
Why would anyone mix tobacco with CANNABIS?
Seems counter productive?
I was in HOLLAND at COFFEE SHOP in 91' and the BUD TENDER asked me if I wanted tobacco to mix with the WHITE WIDOW i just bought! You must be kidding? He wasn't!
Preference I guess, some people genuinely like it. However the majority I find is learnt habbit and nicotine addiction. Funnily enough I have found those who mix green/baccy to smoke bongs have an easier time vaporizing pure green vs smoking it... So another win for vapes.
Chill Dude
Well-Known Member
I wouldn't go so far as to say that cannabis is totally harmless. Your right in pointing out that research hasn't shown a definitive link to cancer from smoking cannabis without using tobacco, however, canabis certainly has many cancer causing agents... So there is at least some potential for cancer I think. Additionally, there have been many cases of COPD directly related to smoking cannabis only. Driving after heavy consumption of weed can certainly be dangerous. Not conclusive, but there have been studies showing that heavy cannabis use for those under 21 was associated with loss of IQ points and loss of motivation to be successful in school or work. No substance is absolutely safe.
Stevenski
Enter the Dragon
Funny I was the exact opposite. I started vaping so I could quit cigarettes & ended up only vaping now after a 25 year ciggy addiction.
Dunno bout America but this lad is punching hot ones the traditional Aussie way in a fuckin sauce bottle with a bit of garden hose. Ripping billys with his mates in the bush on some chairs stolen from a council rubbish collection. Fuckin sick cunts
*apologies for the combustion porn
Funny I was the exact opposite. I started vaping so I could quit cigarettes & ended up only vaping now after a 25 year ciggy addiction.
Dunno bout America but this lad is punching hot ones the traditional Aussie way in a fuckin sauce bottle with a bit of garden hose. Ripping billys with his mates in the bush on some chairs stolen from a council rubbish collection. Fuckin sick cunts
*apologies for the combustion porn
I'm glad to say I skipped most of that and smoked green then vaped, will however admit I smoked a mixed one today in my defence it had a metal stem.
kellya86
Herb gardener...
I would. In fact I would go so far as to say that in its pure form without being combusted, cannabis is actually benificial.
Cannabis users ar 45% less likely to suffer from liver cancer. Jus one of many examples.
Please can you tell me the name of the cancer causing compounds you believe are in cannabis?
I do not believe cannabis leads to loss of IQ ( brain damage). Please could you link the source of this study...
In my opinion cannabis causes no more brain damage than say drinking coffee everyday and exhausting dopamine receptors. This receptor fatigue is probably what your referring too.
Cannabis is one of the only things that is proving to shrink tumors and fight cancer cells effectively, without destroying the body in the process (chemotherapy).
So my argument is that the book is wrong to assume cannabis would be smoked with tobacco when it makes no such assumptions on any other of the drugs.
Stevenski
Enter the Dragon
You must be some type of fake Aussie Tommy10. Like a rite of passage every Aussie kid can make a can cone, stolen hose, Gatorade billy by age 16
.You must be some type of fake Aussie Tommy10. Like a rite of passage every Aussie kid can make a can cone, stolen hose, Gatorade billy by age 16
.... Did it. Just didn't get into it! Haha
OP I also recommend, trying some sort of vapor bong. Maybe a 3rd lung for your davinci.
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1DMF
Old School Cheesy Quaver
I'm confuised, how is this opposite to what I said?
I started vaping to quit cigarettes (though I'd quit the dope for @ 9 months prior to trying to give up smoking), when I found out I could vape pure weed, I ditched the e-cig and haven't ingested nicotine (or combusted) since.
I believe caution is needed in this area, as I thought it had been proven that smoking dope under the age of 18 can hinder brain development as the brain hasn't fully matured until you are @ 18.
Now whether this is specific to smoking cannabis rather than 'ingesting' I don't know, or if vaping resolves this issue. Perhaps smoking anything under 18 can impair brain development?
Here is one article I found in it : http://www.npr.org/sections/health-.../marijuana-may-hurt-the-developing-teen-brain
At least this article's sentiment is written 'may cause' and 'more study is needed', rather than sensationalist, but if we are to have an honest and open debate, we need to consider acceptable age to start consuming cannabis, vaping it or otherwise.
Most drugs (other than caffeine?) are age restricted and 18 seems to be a good starting point (unless USA).
I know we are all on the "isn't cannabis wonderful" , "we've been deomonised for far too long" rhetoric, but we need to ensure we don't get carried away and bury our heads in the sand when true negativity is found!
Stevenski
Enter the Dragon
I think we both got confused due to terminology. I meant because I smoked weed/tobacco mix for 20+ years my cannabis use was intrinsically linked with the weed/tobacco mix. I tried smoking green weed but never liked it, is hate a strong enough word? I was also a 25 pack a day man for 20+ years. Therefore in order to give up smoking I needed to quit smoking bongs. That is why I committed to vaporizing weed & eventually quit smoking cigarettes.
As a cannabis user from age 12 & a daily user from 15 it did affect my development to some degree. Nothing I could necessarily put my finger on but it does not take a brain surgeon to understand that if you abuse cannabis from a young age it can be detrimental in general. That said Cannabis is the least detrimental "addiction" I have had & by a considerable margin.
kellya86
Herb gardener...
I do not believe that it hinders brain growth, I started at 11 years old. And have had bearly any breaks, I am not a moron. Until I see some real evidence on this, I will use my personal experience to judge.
I am 29, I could still pass for 17.
I am physicaly fit.
Have good skin.
No health issues.
I am strong, I recover from wounds or illness very quick due to my high metabolism, thanks to weed.
My brain is sharp.
When other friends around me have got old and fat, iv had 3 kids and worked my arse off, I'm I'm still young and fresh.
I'm convinced this is thanks to cannabis. I think people are confusing stunted growth with well preserved. I'm 6 foot. I'm not stunted.
I am not saying 11 year olds should start using cannabis.
But I do believe cannabis can be not oly harmless, but benificial.
I am 29, I could still pass for 17.
I am physicaly fit.
Have good skin.
No health issues.
I am strong, I recover from wounds or illness very quick due to my high metabolism, thanks to weed.
My brain is sharp.
When other friends around me have got old and fat, iv had 3 kids and worked my arse off, I'm I'm still young and fresh.
I'm convinced this is thanks to cannabis. I think people are confusing stunted growth with well preserved. I'm 6 foot. I'm not stunted.
I am not saying 11 year olds should start using cannabis.
But I do believe cannabis can be not oly harmless, but benificial.
1DMF
Old School Cheesy Quaver
Ah but @kellya86 didn't you say you have been diagnosed with a mild form of Asperger's?
Just like I have been diagnosed with Dyspraxia, both are to do with how our brains are wired.
Which is why LSD doesn't do to me what it appears to do to most others along with a lot of other recreational drugs.
Again, I have had to stop and think, about my cavalier attitude towards drugs, just because I didin't turn into to some drug crazed maniac, isn't necessarily because the drug is special and those in charge are lying, but might actually be because I am special and they affect me differently to most other people
And believe me, I've only started to think like this since being diagnosed with Dyspraxia and having found FC.
You could be right, and to some it is beneficial, but I don't think drugs can be looked upon as a onesie!
Because in life, one size does NOT fit all!
@Stevenski Yeah, I think we are not opposite, but actually alike, I mainly did bongs with a mix in my youth but gave up bongs in my 20's when my lungs collapsed. I mainly smoked hash, not weed, in spliffs mixed with tobacco and when at home, only smoked spliffs, never fags. I only smoked fags on their own when out and about, and hand rolled for many years, not tailor made.
Because I mostly only smoked spliffs, giving up smoking, I thought meant giving up both dope and tobacco, so thought I'd give up the dope first, as a step towards giving up smoking, which I actually managed to do with little issue, other than me being more moody, angry, frustrated and all the reasons I consume cannabis, to counteract the Dyspraxia!
It was when I tried to kick the tobacco, I struggled big time, trying to go cold turkey, I lasted @ a week, before I had to get an e-cig.
I then found vaping through a friend and a G-Pen, and then I found FC, which introduced me to the idea of vaping just weed.
And I've been in love with this place ever since, because I am able to once again self medicate and reach my goal of not smoking.
Weird, I couldn't go cold turkey with tobacco, yet dope was no problem, and since vaping weed, I don't crave the tobacco / nicotine.
FC has made my life a win/win , fuck combustion is fucking awesome!
I hope we haven't hijacked the OP's thread to much, but I guess as it is about quitting smoking fags, and we are providing anecdotal support via our experiences, it's all good
Just like I have been diagnosed with Dyspraxia, both are to do with how our brains are wired.
Which is why LSD doesn't do to me what it appears to do to most others along with a lot of other recreational drugs.
Again, I have had to stop and think, about my cavalier attitude towards drugs, just because I didin't turn into to some drug crazed maniac, isn't necessarily because the drug is special and those in charge are lying, but might actually be because I am special and they affect me differently to most other people
And believe me, I've only started to think like this since being diagnosed with Dyspraxia and having found FC.
You could be right, and to some it is beneficial, but I don't think drugs can be looked upon as a onesie!
Because in life, one size does NOT fit all!
@Stevenski Yeah, I think we are not opposite, but actually alike, I mainly did bongs with a mix in my youth but gave up bongs in my 20's when my lungs collapsed. I mainly smoked hash, not weed, in spliffs mixed with tobacco and when at home, only smoked spliffs, never fags. I only smoked fags on their own when out and about, and hand rolled for many years, not tailor made.
Because I mostly only smoked spliffs, giving up smoking, I thought meant giving up both dope and tobacco, so thought I'd give up the dope first, as a step towards giving up smoking, which I actually managed to do with little issue, other than me being more moody, angry, frustrated and all the reasons I consume cannabis, to counteract the Dyspraxia!
It was when I tried to kick the tobacco, I struggled big time, trying to go cold turkey, I lasted @ a week, before I had to get an e-cig.
I then found vaping through a friend and a G-Pen, and then I found FC, which introduced me to the idea of vaping just weed.
And I've been in love with this place ever since, because I am able to once again self medicate and reach my goal of not smoking.
Weird, I couldn't go cold turkey with tobacco, yet dope was no problem, and since vaping weed, I don't crave the tobacco / nicotine.
FC has made my life a win/win , fuck combustion is fucking awesome!
I hope we haven't hijacked the OP's thread to much, but I guess as it is about quitting smoking fags, and we are providing anecdotal support via our experiences, it's all good