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I'm looking for a new stealthy on demand vape

Discussion in 'Ask FC' started by Zuhdj, Oct 9, 2019.

  1. Zuhdj

    Zuhdj Charles Mingus

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    I already have a simrell stem an m and a crafty. And have had an edge I'm looking at the grasshopper but I'm afraid to pull the trigger for obvious reasons. As far as I can tell it's the only one that'll check all my boxes. But what other similar options are there?
    I'm looking for stealth, efficiency, prefferably convection, fast heat up on demand sort of thing. Like a grasshopper but maybe more reliable.
     
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  2. BabyFacedFinster

    BabyFacedFinster Capo di tutt'i capi

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    For flower vaping IDK how much better you can do than an Edge or Fury for battery powered stealth. Vapcaps are small but you have the torch thing. I myself would not want to mess with a Grasshopper. I know Simrell reports that he really likes the Starry, but I don't think they are smaller than an Edge.

    You could consider concentrates for times of stealth and go with a vape pen. I do like the Boundless Terp Pen for stealth and efficiency. I've been staying away from cartridge pens lately, but they were wicked stealthy and effective.
     
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  3. Enoch23

    Enoch23 New Member

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    With the Edge in mind after having a Crafty that went south too many times, will I wish I had replaced the Crafty?
     
  4. boon

    boon Well-Known Member

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    Impcognito made by @mistvaporizer with a p80 or an aster rt is my stealth convection vaporizer
     
  5. Summer

    Summer Well-Known Member

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  6. Zuhdj

    Zuhdj Charles Mingus

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    I liked it a lot but sold it for money towards the crafty. And I'd get a new edge but I want a new experience.
     
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  7. flammy

    flammy Well-Known Member

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    Take a look at the Firewood 6
     
  8. Momor

    Momor Active Member

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    I think the Mistvape Impcognito with a wood dosing stem + capsules is the stealthiest dry herb vaporizer you can get. It really looks like an e-cig atomiser.
    It checks all your boxes plus it's very good looking and handcrafted :cool:
     
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  9. VaporWare

    VaporWare Well-Known Member

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    If performance is there, the upcoming Herbie 510 attachment will be great for stealth because it really looks like an e-cig atomizer. There’s a thread about it in the Upcoming portables sub-section.

    The Impcognito’s a great choice right now, Firewood 6 is another if you can wait a little, or if you can wait a long time the Nomad is my top choice. :)

    I hear the Grasshopper is great when it works, and it is still quite possibly the most stealthy vaporizer around, but reliability issues have plagued it since release. Unless new buyers and people with recent repairs are saying they’re pretty reliable now I’d be concerned about buying one.
     
  10. bossman

    bossman Gentleman Of Leisure

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    I don't see how anyone can rate the grasshopper even if the woeful reliability was completely rectified. It costs $225 to $265 and doesn't offer any cooling at all, right? It's not stealthy if you need to carry a little bubbler.

    I like the Imp suggestion or possibly a Splinter V1/2 for $80 on a P80 with a wooden capsule stem worked in for some portability. Ryan and Cole had been including free short wooden stems from a wonky first production run. Not dosing capsule ready but at least making the Splinter a bit more portable without the added expense of a $40 hand turned stem.
     
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  11. vapenerd

    vapenerd Well-Known Member

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    This. I've used about 15 different vapes and guess which was the worst? The GH dry. It's so hot it's not a pleasant experience. Totally takes out the fun of vaping.
     
  12. joner

    joner Active Member

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    I find ghost MV1 is an extremely stealthy way to get a few very potent rips quickly while on the go.

    Granted, my hands are large enough that I can cover that crazy lightshow while heating.
     
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  13. invertedisdead

    invertedisdead High Standards

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    The grasshopper seems small by itself, but the battery life is so poor, I wouldn't dare tote one without carrying extra cells, and at that point much of the ultra slim form factor goes out the window. This is fairly common in portable vapes, I call them "pseudo-portables" - it's a phenomenon where a vaporizer design gives the illusion of being very portable, while simultaneously sacrificing features which directly affect its portability. The GH is so small it basically relies on spare batteries. Battery capacity tends to be the predominant issue in convection portables. Said it years ago the GH should have been designed around an 18650. I think you can still count on one hand how many bowls most of these convection portables can pump out from a single 18650.


    The FW6 looks pretty nice for a convection portable, handles the issue of needing to carry herb vials.

    IMO pressing nugs into rosin and using a concentrate atomizer is still the way to go for stealth.
     
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  14. BestBuds

    BestBuds Well-Known Member

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    I will also get behind the FireWood 6. I have the FW5 and it is my edc pocket vape. I really enjoyed this vape at a few concert's this summer. It's gentle but it ticks all my boxes.
     
  15. MoltenTiger

    MoltenTiger Well-Known Member

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    The Grasshopper gets hot, but it doesn't take much to deal with, if that's a problem. If stealth is a priority the MFLB stem does an amazing job in a tiny form. It fits into the silicone mouthpiece, which also does a reasonable job for medium usage. Really though, it only needs to be cooled down if it's running hot or if huge smooth hits are desired. It can be dialled back in temp, but it is a direct draw device. It is simple to deal with in that regard and actually makes one of the best whip vaporisers I've tried. Totally portable too, and stealthy. It doesn't include a vape maze like a crafty/mighty but nothing is stopping anyone from adding one if they want, and it doesn't need to be big.

    Often times I've shared my GH with smokers and they've preferred to use it direct instead of paired with the bubbler I was using anyway. By design it's going to get hot if you dial it up, but it's not going to burn you unless you really try, which is quite hard to do. All portable vapes have a high temp oven, near your face there is no mistake, it needs to be cooled down. You can take your dimpled glass cooling 510 vape mouth piece and plug it on your hopper.

    In my opinion the GH is by far the best choice for a stealthy on-demand vape. 510 vapes are the only other way to go for flower and in my experience, it's a step down compared to a working hopper. In terms of ease of use, stealth and effect, power efficiency, the hopper takes the cake.

    Battery life is about half a gram or less. Vaping on the go is a bit different to seshing on the go. You can take a lot of kit to use with the GH if you please, but the batteries are tiny so maybe taking a small pouch of them for a full day of exploring is a good choice, but it isn't required for a night out or trip to the shops, a movie, a meal out, whatever. The hopper and a single chamber might be enough. It's quite a potent little thing. People with no tolerance are amazing to see after a tiny hit off the hopper. Such red eyes don't lie.

    If you already have a collection of reputable equipment you're only missing out by avoiding the grasshopper, especially if you want a stealthy ultra portable vape (because it's the only one).
     
  16. virtualpurple

    virtualpurple Well-Known Member

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    The grasshopper is great when running as intended.

    but I think there are probably way more hoppers in drawers compared to healthy hoppers because they don’t function well and the hopper warranty process is lengthy, costly, and temporary.

    things may have changed recently and I may be speaking out of school, but after warrantying my hopper three or so times I couldn’t justify sending it back more. I feel like I was renting “ideal operation time” and just hesitant to use it like I would like to because seeing the performance drop so starkly was very frustrating.
     
  17. MoltenTiger

    MoltenTiger Well-Known Member

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    Definitely worth approaching with some caution, but I haven’t had any issues with HLs latest in-house printed heaters. It’s been almost a couple of years since I got my first one and nearly just a single year with two returned from warranty with the newer design, so far.

    A stark contrast to the couple of RMAs I got before, back in 2017.

    It did take a long time for service, but that shouldn’t be the case going forward. It might be lengthy still, but it wasn’t really costly or temporary for me, now, it was before. The horror stories are real, but also not that horrible. Get your unit fixed and use it! It might as well be in HLs drawer for the time being, it’s more of a wait otherwise.. how long has it been sitting around already?
     

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