Discussion in 'The Vapor Lounge' started by misanthrope, Jul 30, 2013.
So begins day 41 free of tobacco, day 8 sober.
Challenging yourself can definitely be another form of entertainment. Just takes a different perspective is all.
And on that note, don't know if you exercise or not, but if not, now would be a GREAT time to start. It kinda supports what you're doing here and visa verse.
Keep on keepin' on:
Why is the highlighted not written in past tense when the rest is?
Who fucking cares!
For what it's worth my update on not smoking cigarettes. I'm about four months clean myself I talked my best friend into buying the E-stog he's got three months clean. Just got my dad an E-smoke he's got two weeks clean along with another friend who has about a week and a half clean. I have talked three others into buying the E-smoke but they continue to smoke anyways.
Hope this makes up a little for the bad things I have talked people into consuming. Drug are bad mkay
I do care.
A post talks about someone, me, considering ending their life and all you can do is correct their grammer? Fuck you knowmad FUUUUUCK YOUUUUUUUUU!!!
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. I didn't take it this way at all. I took it that he was concerned because your statement regarding the desire to end your life was in the present tense, and therefore, still a major concern. I didn't take it as a correction of your grammar at all.
Mark4MMJ at least you still care enough to get pissed off . That's Good . Knowmad just had the balls to ask in a nice way if you were gonna be OK and to let you know your not alone .
There are those of us out here who have dealt and deal with thoughts of suicide .
I Have . And DO .
Knowmad picked it up from your post I didn't . When things really suck or just kinda suck you can feel free to PM me just to unload some crap as at least half of the time I find myself in thoughts of No Hope , No Future , My life is pretty fucking useless . I can relate .
Thanks to everyone for the support you give to all member trying to quit smoking cigarettes. Rude Boy Iwien and many more here at FC have helped me become smoke free. Others trying to Quit stick with it.
My method of quitting was getting extremely sick with the flu and not really being able to smoke during. After 4 days, the hardest part was over, and I just decided to roll with it.
I was just vaguely expressing concern bro... I now see how what I wrote could've been easily misinterpreted.
Iwien hit the nail on the head a few posts up.
If you want a friendly anonymous chat with a stranger, I don't judge!
Day 15 sober marks half of my challenge complete!
The psychological anguish that's come and gone over the last fortnight has been nothing short of ridiculous.
The number one change brought about is that I can no longer tolerate bullshit. Be it people trying to take advantage of kindness, weakness or otherwise; I'll no longer have any part of it.
The initial anger I experienced was I believe, my way of dealing with this 'bullshit' during a time of withdrawal. Without that daily high, I can't switch off to any negative issues surrounding me.
I must find some means of escape.
The above extends to many facets of my life and has given me the nudge I needed out of an unhappy home, as well as a stagnant friendship with nothing to offer me emotionally.
I purchased an eighth of Afghan Kush last night as good weed is seldom available in these parts...
Can I in my right mind celebrate a month sober by getting high on it's anniversary?
Bring on the rest of September.
57 days can be converted to one of these units:
good warning, man. imho addictions don't really end until we're dead. 'quitting' is not a problem, it's starting. looking back, sometimes, on a 'weak' moment, maybe even out celebrating when a random thought just pops in "hey, i'm not addicted to ciggies anymore, i haven't been smoking for god-knows-how long, i even hate the smell of it now. just for the heck of it, i guess one puff/one stick won't hurt". then bam, you on the road to a smoky hell again.
psychologically, yes, the cigarette munster is patiently waiting to pounce and it can wait for years & years. ciggies must be one of the most treacherous, conniving, sneaky and devious creations of man.
I'm officially one month sober.
Today also marks 64 days free of tobacco.
Since taking my first drink/toke around 7 years ago, I wouldn't have been sober once for this length of time. It's been eye opening to say the least.
I went through days early on consuming more than a normal amount of caffeine and/or fast food. I think my fragile mind was looking for that support that it was all of a sudden missing.
I'll be leaving alcohol behind and hope it's soon nothing more than a distant memory.
I'm looking forward to infrequent MJ usage.
I'll be using the herb now as a tool, rather than a daily crutch.
I quit cigs back in 09 cold turkey when I was visiting Maui, Hawaii. You had to be like 30ft from any building just to smoke, so even at the bar I had to go all the way to the street. I was having health issues because of it as well. I would wake up with so much flem in my throat that I would have to cough it out. But coughing it out made my throat raw and then I had to go work in sales all day and just work through it. Which basically meant every night around 8pm I would completely lose my voice from talking all day over a already raw throat. So when I was in hawaii I just made the decision to give it up cold turkey. I didn't "fully" quit because I still smoked here and there and while I was drinking. But, then one day I smelled a cig while drinking and really really wanted one(this was about 6 months after I "quit"). So I asked my buddy for one and the minute I lit it and took a drag I knew I was done. It tasted like I had just wiped a wet finger into an ashtry and shoved it in my mouth. I instantly gave it back and haven't looked back ever since.
EDIT: Now i'm late for work lol. I'll read the whole thread later when I get home
^^ Huh? How can anything be as addictive as nicotine, and yet, at the same time, be considered harmless? That's an oxymoron if I ever heard one.
Implying that addiction is harmless is the same thing as implying that a mental illness is harmless simply because addiction, by it's very nature, is a mental illness.
Addiction to a habit forming substance changes the brain in fundamental ways, disturbing a person's normal hierarchy of needs and desires and substituting new priorities connected with procuring and using the drug, or in this case, nicotine. The resulting compulsive behaviors that override the ability to control impulses despite the consequences are similar to hallmarks of other mental illnesses.
Nicotine is harmless? Bah..........
What's also interesting is that I've never seen anyone who is either a non-smoker, or a smoker who has quit, make a statement like "Nicotine is harmless". The ONLY ones that I have seen make statements like this are current users of nicotine which, to me, is just another classic example of one of the hallmarks of addiction, which is...............denial.
I still think that nicotine is on par with caffeine. Both are accepted (mostly caffeine/coffee/tea) but you rarely hear about people and their anxiety problems from too much caffeine. Smoking tobacco or dipping causes you to also absorb MAOI's. Wiki:
I found it harder to stop smoking than I do to stop vaping my ejuice/ecig. I'm about to run out, 1ml left of 24mg juice ('strong') and I'm trying to pick a new juice from a list to get maybe Saturday or Sunday. If I stop using my ecig I'm fine, but I have to stop drinking coffee over the course of 3-4 days minimum unless I want to get headaches.
Everyone's different, though.
I tried everything - hypnosis, gum, cold turkey, acupuncture. None of these worked for but the reality is that they may work for other people. I was working for a Japanese car company and had to spend a significant amount of time in Japan (great place but hell if you are trying to give up cigs). Anyway, was out on the piss one night and met a nice English girl who had recently stopped smoking. She told me she had read a book called 'easy way to stop smoking' by Allen Carr. I bought it, read it and gave up smoking. Changed my life. Further enhanced by the fact that I discovered my vaporiser!
Posted a copy of the book cover in the books that changed my life thread.
The basic premise is that we are subliminally programmed from an early age e.g. The condemned man's last wish (a cigarette) or that ubercool movie star / hero smoking on the big screen. Couple this with the fact that the nicotine addiction is a vicious circle that you need to break in order to see the light, which is what the book does well ie it presents completely logical arguments to stop and assists with re-programming your mind in a non-patronising eloquent way. Give it a go. Best £5 I ever spent and it has saved me thousands since not to mention the health benefits. Hope this helps. Good luck!
hmm, well smokeless tobacco could be considered addictive in much the same way as drinking caffeine is said to be addictive.
and i still say the only realistic alternative to smoking cigarettes is using Swedish snus.
I enjoy Swedish snus as well, but what's wrong with e-cigs for harm-reduction purposes?
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