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Discussion in 'Cannabis News and Activism' started by TheDudeNextDoor, Jul 3, 2014.

  1. TheDudeNextDoor

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    Hey all. Long story, so I won't bother covering it. A friend of mine very well could submit herself to a hair drug test in the near future. The reason is irrelevant. What I want to know is if anyone here has any experience with this full-body detox product. I've done some research for my friend, and this seems legit, with several unrelated sources providing solid reviews. It's expensive, but it would be worth it to my friend if it works as advertised. She has recently had to quit vaping (it's KILLING her), but the hair test could be coming much faster than it would take for the toxins to clear her system (we're talking up to six months with a test like this).

    Kind of a shot in the dark, I know, but does anyone have experience or know someone who has experience with this product? I'm trying to help her find some first-person experience before she spends what little money she has.

    http://www.synergydetox.com/synergydetox-store/detox-systems/total-body-detox


    Mods: Wasn't sure what forum to post this, but figured ways to deal with draconian drug tests could be a type of "activism."
     
  2. 215z

    215z Well-Known Member

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    I'm not an MD but I don't see how a product can "alter" existing hair, anymore than some nail care product can improve fingernails that have ALREADY grown out.
     
  3. syrupy

    syrupy reitcello - it's what's for breakfast

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    The reason why is not irrelevant, and obscuring that is only going to prevent truly helpful advice. So without that info, my advice is she is screwed.
     
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  4. grokit

    grokit power cosmic

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    Would it arouse suspicion if she shaved her head? She could get a wig that looks like what her hair did, and say she's a cancer survivor or something. Then at least they would have to wait for new hair...

    Of course she would have to be a "21st century girl" in her other hairy/less areas...
     
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  5. syrupy

    syrupy reitcello - it's what's for breakfast

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    Ha, you haven't seen these tests before, have you @grokit ? That's the oldest trick in the book--"religious skinhead". They just take some arm hair and make sure to test deep enough that you fail. You could try real chemo and hope all the hair falls out, but there are easier ways around the hair test. People just don't think of them.

    +1 to OP for the thread justification as activism. :tup:

    It's supposed to strip the hair out, but it's such a harsh process, it's very obvious when the test results come back. The biggest mistake people make is trying to defeat the test in ways that are blatant, which just causes a re-test with different methods. No one has ever defeated a blood test for THC that I've heard of.
     
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  6. 215z

    215z Well-Known Member

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    Some of us find whole-body electrolysis to be quite attractive.
     
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  7. syrupy

    syrupy reitcello - it's what's for breakfast

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    This cartoon bear is shorthand for "you're being creepy."
     
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  8. EveryDayAmnesiac

    EveryDayAmnesiac I am a stupid asshole.

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    Sorry, dude, but to the best of my knowledge... uh... yeah.

    She either has to pass that job up (hopefully, it's the sort of job she CAN pass up), or she needs to find herself some new hair.

    Hopefully, it's not a necessity job. I wouldn't work for anyone who does drug tests, but.... obviously, not everyone has that luxury... :ugh:

    Don't know anyone who's passed a hair test... :shrug:

    I will hope for the best...
     
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  9. TheDudeNextDoor

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    Thanks for the responses everyone. It's not for a job, and it's not something she has to do. It's something she could do that would help her with a legal situation. That's why I was being vague, but vagueness always just makes it stand out more, eh? lol. The good thing is that she can decide whether to do it or not, but a neg test would help.

    From what I can tell, 1/2" of hair equals one month, so even with short hair, we're talking months to clear out. And shaving the head doesn't do it because they just take body hair, which grows even slower and therefore retains the toxins much longer. I suspected stuff like this would be too good to be true, but I told her I'd throw it out there hoping someone had personal experience.
     
  10. Gunky

    Gunky Well-Known Member

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    One time in a custody battle the cannabis thing came up and my lawyer said let's get you tested ourselves and just see what will happen. I had shaved my head early on and this was short hair months later. Still came up positive. My lawyer handled it somewhat differently and mercifully we bluffed it out.
     
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  11. syrupy

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    I poked around the webz to see if there was any new info about the follicle tests. There was a hilarious thread that started with this post by user "need-help".

    There were many suggestions about bleach, hair dye, and special shampoos, and one person who sounded knowledgeable.

     
  12. grokit

    grokit power cosmic

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    I've got zero experience with this kind of thing but this seems very helpful :tup:

    Pass Your Upcoming Hair Follicle Drug Test – 3 Things You Didn’t Know…

    If you’ve been asked to take a hair drug test it can be a frightening experience. Chances are you’ve read the forums around this topic. Everyone out there makes it seem impossible to pass. I understand how uncomfortable the feeling can be: your dream job…lost. Before you give up, here are three ways you can swing a hair test in your favor.

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    1) It takes about 7 days for the drugs to “get into” your hair. What does that mean? Shave your entire body and let it grow for about 5-6 days; the hair will be clean and likely yield a passing result. It’s not practical for those that can’t keep a straight face: “Ya doc, I just decided to shave my entire body 5 days ago, no big deal”.

    2) Despite what you may have heard, there are a few (and only a few) hair detox shampoos that are effective. Most hair detox shampoos fail because they cannot break inside the hair follicle; that is where small amounts of the drug toxins “hide”. The Aloe Rid Detox Shampoo is one of the few that can. I was able to find it at TestClear. Note: their inventory is low due to high demand.

    3) Hair tests are not designed to pick up occasional/small drug use. Let’s say you smoked a small bowl 45 days ago, and smoked the same amount 15 days ago. It is possible that you consumed such a small amount, and had a wide enough gap to go undetected. You see, the test is best detects the continual heavy user, not the lightweight toker.

    more @: http://howtopassadrugtest.info/how-to-pass-a-hair-follicle-drug-test/
     
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  13. TheDudeNextDoor

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    So it has to be a hair test? She can't request blood/urine since it is voluntary?
     
  15. TheDudeNextDoor

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    Not necessarily, Magic9. The lawyer just said a hair test would be the best test to take because it would end the argument with a negative result. It's kind of like deciding to hit a home run rather than to bunt for a single. Of course, the first question was "I assume you have no drugs in your system other than those prescribed." And therein lies her rub since she lives in a non-progressive state that still defines mj as illegal for any reason.
     
  16. RUDE BOY

    RUDE BOY Space is the Place

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    :peace: Don't volunteer for drug testing if you use drugs ! Less stress that way.
     
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  17. Silver420Surfer

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    When will they come out with synthetic hair lol (like they have for urine)?!
     
  18. Magic9

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    Ok. A blood test is good because it just measures active metabolites and usually only for the last day or two (LPT: If ever arrested for dui, request a blood test over urine).

    A urine test goes back further, but easily solved.

    But, IF a hair test must be done, it would be helpful to know,
    1) Is she black? (I'm not racist, the test is) Does she have all gray/white hair?
    2) How long until a decision has to be made? (days, weeks, month?)
    3) Does she have access to a sauna or other ways to subject her hair to high humidity?
    4) Access to a pool?
     
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  19. Madcap79

    Madcap79 Jack of all trades, master of none.

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    Too bad it's a hair test. I've passed numerous random piss tests and I consumed the night before. Best of luck!
     
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  20. TheDudeNextDoor

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    1) No and no.
    2) Totally up to her in terms of when and even if to take the test.
    3) Possibly, not sure. I'll have to ask her that.
    4) Yes
     
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  21. Magic9

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    If she HAD to take it, there are a few things she could try, but since it is not mandatory, her best bet would probably be to not take it. Especially since it sounds like it would/could be used against her. Risk/reward.

    As far as detox shampoos, I have no experience with them and have never heard anything good about them. I wouldn't trust one without running an at home test first.
     
  22. TheDudeNextDoor

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    I agree. I think that's her best bet.
     
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    1/2" is hair on the head only she will need to shave all body hair off .

    i used to work in a head shop so yes there are products that work very well, for hair on the head is really simple wet hair with vinager let sit on hair for 30 to 60 mins rinse off repete than shampoo let dry
    and dye your hair to your natural color .there be nothing left in the hair after the vinager and the dye just to be safe but not really needed

    with body hair neer or a full body wax will do the trick which won't seem odd to anyone since she is a she (female) guys on the other hand would not get away with this (and trim the eyebrows )
     
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  24. vap999

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    The product claims to "shrink fat cells, forcing out THC metabolites and other toxins. In stage 2, these toxins are broken down and expelled by your body." Obviously, totally bogus!

    Use common sense! You are looking for a product that will very selectively cause excretion from the body and/or destruction of very specific and sparse/isolated molecules deposited within rather inert hair protein fibers -- impossible with current technologies. How would any substance infiltrate the hair, selectively bind to or otherwise interact with, and then cause selective excretion and/or metabolic breakdown of the target cannabinoid molecules; and how/why would the "toxins" be metabolized/excreted (which would first require reentering the body/bloodstream)? It also claims to "permanently reduce toxins," which sounds both bogus and dangerous. The product you seek would somehow be so specific/targeted/potent that it will do this only to the desired targeted molecules in hair without causing other major adverse effects, without affecting other critical biologically-active molecules, without disrupting the natural cannabinoid-based neural networks in the brain, etc. And who would be crazy enough to presumably ingest or wash/rub into the scalp such a drug product claimed to be so highly active/potent without knowing what it is (I saw no ingredients list), much less the product having no clinical trials, no FDA approval. It's not like they cited any studies, including no vitro (test tube) or animal experimental studies; no data (e.g., before/after) for even a single cherry-picked user; no aggregated anecdotal evidence of efficacy and safety; etc. And who is going to be fool enough to spend a minimum of $178 for such obviously bogus product? [You might ask yourself how/why you ever even considered this product worthy of asking about?]

    Also, notice that specific claims for efficacy do not include hair:
    "Synergy Total PDS comes in a 4, 7, and 11 day program, and after successful completion you will be able to pass a urine, saliva, or blood drug test."

    Bottom line: If there were any in any way scientifically- and/or clinically-valid(ated) methods for "passing a hair test," we'd all know about it, there would be products actually tested, proven, approved and marketed for this.
     
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  25. TheDudeNextDoor

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    Well said, vap999. That was my first reaction as well although you obviously have much better understanding of the science (or lack thereof) behind it than I. However, my common sense was telling me exactly what you identify, just without the actual knowledge to back it up.

    Still, it's a good conversation to have. It pisses me off that we have to have the conversation at all for a "drug" that should be recognized as a legitimate medical treatment and, in my opinion, a recreational choice. But she lives in a backward-ass state with draconian laws, and that's the reality.
     
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