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Dangerous problem, weed effect gets lost. Detox day ?

Discussion in 'Vaporization Discussion' started by Vapewithfire, May 14, 2014.

  1. Vapewithfire

    Vapewithfire Active Member

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    It is a serious problem, that can lead to depressions, drug or alcohol abuse.
    The pleasant weed effect or high gets lost, after weeks, month or years of smoking.

    I had this problem, when i was 20. After 2 years of a great life, with smoking weed nearly everyday, i realised, that it is not making me high, as it made me the years ago.
    I thought, this could be the end, that people were warning of. The day, when it is getting boring, and you will trie other substances.

    I was that stupid, i didn´t know, when the weed or drugeffect gets lost,that doesn´t mean that the life with weed or the drug i´m using, is over.
    Most drugs don´t work, when you use them everyday. Even cocaine or heroin gets boring, when you do it everyday.

    A lot of people just make 1 or 2 "detoxdays", when their drugs get boring. I made, that with weed and other drugs, and it was working for years.
    May be, i had just to make 1 detox day, without weed, and my weed effect would have been great.

    Some month ago, my weed effect became boring, but my luck was, that my connection had no weed.

    I had to wait for 1 evening, 1 night and 1 day.
    I´m happy, i made it. It was not very cruel, but boring.
    After 24 hours of waiting:

    1. I was happy to have weed for a whole week ( 6 Gramms )
    2. The first bowl in my vape was 3 times stronger, pleasant and longer than before.
    3. The whole week was a great week.

    When you start to think weed is boring and life sucks, may be you should make a detox day,
    than you could see how boring and depressing life without weed can be.
    The great thing is, even some hours without weed, can increase the weed effect, massively.

    May be you got to be down, before you can get high again.

    Set ( you ) &
    Setting ( your life / day / Place ... )


    When you start to feel the pressure of life without weed, than you can realize what weed can give to you. When you are stoned, relaxed and sedated the whole week, it is no real flash to become relaxed or stoned. When you are depressed, because you have no weed or other problems, than smoking weed feels much more strong and pleasant.

    At what kind of situations, smoking weed can be extra pleasant.

    When you had a little break ( even some hours or a morning without weed )
    When you have trouble or serious problems
    Extra good weed
    Changing from sativa to indica strains. ( sativa nearly no cbd, indica more cbd & co. )
    When your food and your digestion is well ( healthy )
    Nice people
    Nice day
    Nice life
    Good music
    Good movies
    Tasty food
    Good neighbourhood
    After sport
    After work
     
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  2. tuk

    tuk Well-Known Member

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    Different strokes for different folks I suppose ...but I smoke weed everyday & never build up a tolerance for the following reasons:

    1) Most days I'm really busy so don't hit my vape until after 7-9PM sometimes later ...which means most days I go 21-23hrs without ingesting any THC.

    2) On rare days off, If I hit the first bowl around 1PM I will be high for 3-4 hrs because my tolerance is so low and not used to ingesting during the day ...so even though I smoke more on these days, its not that much more than usual

    3) My product is very high quality & I always have at least 5 different varieties available at any given time.
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    If you find life is boring without weed, it probably means you need more non-weed related activities/projects in your life...not more weed.
     
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  3. Vapewithfire

    Vapewithfire Active Member

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    1 whole day without weed is more than enough. People who don´t smoke untill work is done or have little breaks for some hours often get the full weed effect, 100 %.

    The people who smoke a bowl every hour, without breaks, often get a decreased effect, down to 0 % or a depressing mood.
    Even a break of 2 to 4 hours could increase it.
     
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  4. darkrom

    darkrom Great Scott!

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    Yes, tolerance is a thing.

    Those who said (LONG LONG AGO) that you will get bored of cannabis and switch to things like crack are IMO certifiably insane.


    I can picture it just like this "man I love how weed feels but it doesn't work very well.....LETS DO COCAINE!" The problem with this is the effects of cocaine are NOTHING like cannabis. No other drug out there is like cannabis IMO. So if you enjoy cannabis, there is 0 reason to believe you'd like cocaine, the polar opposite drug. It just doesn't make sense.

    The gateway theory has been officially debunked and agreed upon as bullshit by even those who are anti-cannabis at this point. Its simply not the case.


    Alcohol has actually shown to be more likely to follow the gateway drug "theory" but to be honest even that is bullshit and not correct. Some people just like to get fucked up. They probably happened to start with cannabis because it is a lot easier to find cannabis than it is heroin or meth or something. Simple as that.
     
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  5. Silent

    Silent HEY, HEY, HEYHEEEY, VAPE WEED EVERY DAY

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    Slightly OT I guess but I've always believed the "gateway theory" is a product of weed being illegal. People will try weed knowing its illegal and knowing all the bullshit propaganda theyve been fed by programs like FRANK or DARE. Once they've realise weed is nothing like these programs say they are, that voice in your head goes "hmm... I wonder what else theyve lied about".

    On topic, tolerance breaks of just 1 day are great for me but I have to agree with @tuk, if life without weed is depressing, you need to find more activities or maybe speak to a Dr. I have suffered from depression all my life and i have been on antidepressants for around 3 years now and now I have found " real" happiness, life is far from boring without weed. Weed just enhances what is already great.
     
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  6. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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    Most of the people do drugs to party... not to solve their "problems" , some are just easy to abuse and cause harm to your health ... Most of them numb or alternate senses so you are not actually feeling the harm while effected :)
     
  7. cityslang

    cityslang A taste on the tongue

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    If you have access to different strains mix and match can do wonders for tolerance.

    I found when I've only had access to crud grade commercial dark greens it can get more frustrating to have the same strain day in day out if it's not too good.

    If I had to have one strain for ever I'd choose Super Lemon Haze.
     
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  8. Deja Vu

    Deja Vu Deviant fetish sex

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    If you ever want to talk about that just PM me. It may feel right, but it doesn't have to feel that way :) You're life is wonderful no matter what the circumstance, and getting high should be just like good makeup on a girl. It should be subtle and only accentuate the beautiful things, not overpower and control them.

    Peace.
     
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  9. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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    Well this is what happens when you vape 200% THC :)... He should have done it "normally" like anyone here , This is what you get when you get over 100%...
     
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    Deja Vu Deviant fetish sex

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  11. Enchantre

    Enchantre A short, pithy statement

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    Using setting "11" as well, I'm sure.
     
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  12. cityslang

    cityslang A taste on the tongue

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    That's all a bit spinal tap :-)
    I can get 300% out of my Lotus with my special technique
     
  13. RUDE BOY

    RUDE BOY Space is the Place

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    Hey I just got 200% out of my Davinci for my first session of this daylight time !

    I forgot that I stuffed about a .50 runaway bud (found the little bud under the vape station) into it last night. Then shoved my normal .15 or so in it for my morning Breakfast bowl, not thinkin'.

    now I'm a little concerned that I may have a case of 'smokers tongue'
     
  14. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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    And somewhere in Stonemalia children dying for a whiff a vapor... Shame on you for going over 100% :D :D :D I smell a world vapor crisis in here .. I wonder who is going to be invaded next by the USA ? :D :D
     
  15. GeekyGodiva

    GeekyGodiva Happy Hairy Herbal Faerie

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    Well, I might be taking a t-break of indeterminate length. I have just ground up my last grey-market nug and unexpected medical costs drained my bank account this month. Even if we were flush my friend is dry, and here in Washington we still have weeks to wait before the legal shops open. Seriously regarding the Washington shops, they still haven't told folks if they will open in June or July and then we are not expected to have enough supply to meet demand this year. Sh!t is going to be crazy, but I digress.

    I like to take a tolerance break from time to time. When I get my next bit of herb it will be a bright new world full of possibilities. Until then it is a bright new world full of possibilities. :haw: I intend to make the most of this hiatus, but due to my pain issues I am most likely going to spend a small portion of time visiting friends and sleeping a lot of the time.

    Then when I can vape up again, I will invite someone to join me.
     
  16. Deja Vu

    Deja Vu Deviant fetish sex

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    Very exciting news, congrats! Make sure you post a photo of the first dispensary to open and the variety that they offer
     
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  17. Enchantre

    Enchantre A short, pithy statement

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    We have dispensaries. WA is a medical state, with an enviably liberal selection of sources & medicines.
    It's the retail stores that we are waiting on. The pace of getting legal recreational herb in WA has been a bit on the slow side, since the law was passed nearly a year ago.
     
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  18. darkrom

    darkrom Great Scott!

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    I've had my medical card here in MA for 2 years. Still no dispensaries open!

    That is slow.
     
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  19. DieHard

    DieHard Vertical transportation specialist.

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    Man this is a tough crowd.:nod: I thought @Vapewithfire has brought up a valid and relevant topic in this thread. And never mentioned his "technique". There have been some times recently when there has been no work for me for several days to a week at a time. So I'm sitting home all day vaping pretty much all day. When I get back into my work routine, I go from 8-17 hours with no vaping. I notice that I can feel the effects more when there is a break of a little as a few hours rather than constant vaping.
     
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  20. darkadious

    darkadious Member

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    well, when you're looking for drugs to provide you entertainment rather than "enhancing" the experience, you've may have other issues.

    "When you start to think weed is boring and life sucks, may be you should make a detox day,
    than you could see how boring and depressing life without weed can be.
    The great thing is, even some hours without weed, can increase the weed effect, massively"

    no, you should probably focus on improving your life rather than trying to get higher from a little tolerance break.
     
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  21. Deja Vu

    Deja Vu Deviant fetish sex

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    Exactly. Doesn't look as if the OP is returning to this thread, but let it stand for anyone out there reading who thinks that this is a good attitude to have towards MJ, or ANY drug. It isn't. Weed isn't there to fuck you up, take you away from the misery of your life or act as a substitute for living and appreciating a real life.

    Be safe ya'll
     
  22. LulzRoyce

    LulzRoyce New Member

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    Bro you are oozing drug addict. Statements like "how boring and depressing life can be without weed" make me question your use. Smoking weed should be an enhancement to life, not an escape and certainly not an obsession. Weed should enhance your life, not revolve around it. If you feel depressed without it then you clearly have some personal issues to work out in life. Sounds like you most likely aren't doing much with your life and aren't finding any stimulation or rewarding value to life outside of consuming marijuana. From statements like you've "HAD" to wait so and so days, sounds like you literally sat around and did nothing but wait. I've been down that road and trust me it sucks. Focus on other things besides weed dude.
     
  23. Silver420Surfer

    Silver420Surfer Well-Known Member

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    Too funny, made me spit soda all over my vape area and monitor from laughing whilst taking a sip!
     
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  24. Caligula

    Caligula Maximus

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    You people are funny.

    We talk about MJ as a medicine. We talk about its benefits, and how it helps people. We talk about how people's lives are bettered by it, each and every day. Hell, least night I watched that Gupta "Weed 2" special on CNN. All they did was talk about how MMJ helps people and changes lives.

    Does anyone disagree with this characterization of (our corner of, at least) the MJ/MMJ community?

    No?

    Good.

    Now what do we take medicine for? Seizures, like those poor kids on that CNN special? Of course. People with chronic pain? Well, that's a no brainer. The person with cancer for any number of reasons? Duh.

    How about the person with chronic depression?

    Should they not manage their ailment with MJ? Should they load up on Rx MAOIs and SSRIs instead? Perhaps are we of the Scientology school of thought here, and anyone with depression can be treated with supplements and jogging? I suppose if that's the case, then we can ignore all the scientific data that shows MJ can help with depression as well as other mental afflictions (PTSD anyone?). What Would Tom Do?

    Would you honestly tell someone suffering from depression that they simply need to "go get a better life", versus trying to help mitigate things by going to a doctor and getting medication?

    It's interesting to see how quickly some of you can become hypocritical in this respect.

    That being said, when I go to get my MMJ rec, the doctor tells you that you should abstain for a week every other month or so. Why? Because its been shown that heavy MJ use can cause negative side effects which can become hard to distinguish from what you are trying to treat, especially with non physical ailmetns (apathy, lack of energy, etc), as well as to help keep tolerance down (honestly, what doctor wants you to take more medication than what is necessary? A bad one.).

    How is this any different than what our special friend the OP is suggesting?

    Oh wait, its not.

    Shame.
     
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  25. Ox45

    Ox45 Well-Known Member

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    Ricky Williams managed to be a great football and baseball player, one of the most athletic stoners lol. Made millions and millions, broke NFL records, lots of fans and support but was basically forced into early retirement. NFL kept busting his balls for testing positive for MJ

    He was a true beast on the field, hated the press and spotlight. Just wanted to play and enjoy life. He was known to have mental issues growing up that he treated with MJ. But the damn NFL acted as if he was a roid-head.

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