Aromazap/Myrtlezap/CeramicRockZap

Nycdeisel

Well-Known Member
I dont think all the zaps have that really shiny stuff Rick talked about that you could see on some of those more... curvy zaps :brow:

Mine is really smooth and kind of shiny right around the inside of the top. but maybe thats just a much smoother part of the wood. there are a few spots where there are bits of wood that stick up a bit(I have no idea what these are called) and are rough like near the lower part of the unit, but the inside of the top near the heater is so smooth I keep running my fingers around it, very nice. I wonder if that was some of that secret shiny stuff used during turning the bodies.
 
Nycdeisel,

Rick

Zapman
We are getting better at applying the smooth shiny stuff is why some of the latest seem shinier. It must be applied on the lathe using friction created heat so all the sanding is done when the finish goes on. Sometimes a spot here or there will not clean up perfectly, sometimes old eyes do not see every scratch.
NYCs RZ, along with some others sent out early have a defect of some kind in the finish or maybe a little chip of wood lost drilling the plug hole in our first runs. We(me mostly) goofed up on a new process or banged one against another or maybe even dropped one throughout the process. We learn from each mistake and seldom repeat that clumsiness.
Traditional log vapes are a straight line, with the grain. I always finish the traditional log Zap wood off with a good ten minute hand job using 220 and 400 grit sandpaper. Hand sanding always adds that special finish and is easy to do with the tradional wood insulated log vape. Some of these new shapes in the RZs you see would be very difficult to hand sand, if not impossible. They get sanded on the lathe. They also get a different finish selected for an enduring shine. ZaPolish should not be necessary but will not harm the finish that we are using if you want to use it.

So imperfection is raising her beautiful head here in Zapville, especially with our early new units. We are learning better techniques every day to keep miss imperfecta in her place. Her place is to always be here as always but she is so sweet that she will only be able to show her stuff rarely. Those getting these early units will also discover our first batch of heatports for the new RZ have the center ever so slightly off center. We re-worked some non insulated heatports to add the insulation compartment 'wings' at the top and the bottom and the centers came out just a few thousandths off. Still totally functional and look good but the perfectionists out there will notice the slight boo boo. Oh shit, there is that word! On the other hand, my guess is these little boo boos in the early units will add value to them if that is a concern.

Wood stems will be a few more days out. We are refining construction techniques in the shop before we will get so see more and offer them for sale. I am also exploring a different mount for our SS tips in the glass Tooty. Those who ordered Tootys with their RZ's will have to wait a few days for the Tooty. RZs will ship today, Tooty later in the week.

No excuses, just what is happening in the early stages of rolling out the final version of the RZ.

I will be spending some time today doing SS retros on old Zaps so I should have some more information on that subject soon. I am sure some of you feel left out with the excitement generated lately by the RZ and all the many different variations we are delivering that product to the log vape market. So many of you have beautiful old Zaps and are wondering if they really can get a new SS life. I am concluding there will be one main refurbish product and that will be the new closed bottom SS heatport installed in the wood from the top, exactly as the old design. That will surely be the easiest and cheapest way to do it and much of the wood I have seen in some of these old favorites is still in good shape. I am thinking the bottom bore process necessary for a RZ retro would be tough to do without re-turning the Zap. Like I said, I'll have more info soon. Thanks for all the patience on this issue. I have been a little short with some of you answering your questions on the subject. This is also not a normal "product" so I have to figure out the logistics on Zaps returned, inspection, good to fix or not, etc, etc.

I'll be back later with something fun. First a busy day in town most of the morning.
 
Rick,

kewpcer

Active Member
Just picked up my Plain Jane beta unit, in what looks like oak, but Rick mentioned locust, so it could be that.

First impressions...

As mentioned, it warms up noticeably quicker than my Brass or R1 Zaps.

It's a bit smaller in dimension, but noticeably smaller in that hand, thanks to the comfortable taper in the design. I really like this profile. This unit is a 5-line Plain Jane vs. the 3-line version on the website.

The heater port is recessed by about 3cm into a much narrower bore than the old rock zap. Once the stem is placed, there is no way i can get my index finger near the metal, so... problem solved.

It flatly delivers the most satisfying hits of vapor I've ever had. Even beyond the DBV, beyond the RZ1 with 12 or 13.5 volts. This things just jams. Long nice hits of vapor at just the right temp, and hit after rich hit from a stem, where a 13.5v RZ1 would just sap the entire stem in 3 hits. Some how the RZ2 delivers rich hits AND several of them. I haven't really counted yet. But, I'm going to say at least 2-3 more hits per stem, with a significant boost in consistent vapor quality.


A little porn...

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kewpcer,

momofthegoons

vapor accessory addict
Would I lie to you baby? :lol:

I'm so glad you are enjoying your new RZ kewpcer. I'm glad I'm not the only one who has found this thing to deliver satisfying hits. I haven't touched my whip since I got it. No need.

Used mine with my glass this morning. What a wonderful way to start the day!
 
momofthegoons,

collegerower

Well-Known Member
Glad to hear you are thinking about us retro customers. I look forward to seeing what our options will be.

It sure would be cool to turn my old girl into a RZ though...
 
collegerower,

the ob

all good in the hood.
I am assuming that the refurbs will have all the ceramics added as well?

It is one thing to get the SS, but I feel as though the added ceramics are making a difference as well.

Just curious.
 
the ob,

momofthegoons

vapor accessory addict
Great minds think alike NYC! :lol:

I'll be waiting for that vid :popcorn:

ob, I'm not sure that they will all (if any) get the ceramic. I don't know if that has been determined yet. It might depend on the condition of the Zap.
 
momofthegoons,

the ob

all good in the hood.
The ceramics seem like they make a big difference in the heat retention. I have one of the early SS models and it seems like from what I read, that they do not get as hot (or retain heat as well) as the ceramics.

It would seem like that would be at least some of the reason someone would want a refurb.

I will wait to hear about this. I am guessing others will be curious about this as well.
 
the ob,

collegerower

Well-Known Member
Ob, I look forward to seeing if the ceramic will be available for refurbished units as well. I too imagine that the ceramic adds to the performance. Like mom said, it might depend on the condition of the zap.
 
collegerower,

momofthegoons

vapor accessory addict
Rick said:
I am thinking the bottom bore process necessary for a RZ retro would be tough to do without re-turning the Zap.

I hope they can be ceramic, but this leads me to believe that it would be the traditional install and not the ceramic. If there was a certain part of your old Zap that had a "picture" or design in it that was meaningful to you, it might get cut off if it was put back on the lathe. We'll know more later when Rick comes back. I know he will do whatever he can.
 
momofthegoons,

Nycdeisel

Well-Known Member
Get ready Ladies and Gents... for some Loco Zapporn :o
I apologize in advance if anyones computers somehow make these annoyingly large, let me know and I will fix it. I have quite a few pictures because, well.... the camera just loves 'er! :)

So as you may know this Black Locust wood can do some crazy stuff, and it changes color.. sort of... check it out

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Did ya see that? here it is again in case you missed it
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its on the front too
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heres the top, where that bit of glare is on the inside is the shiny smooth bit I was talking about. watch it change a bit too on the darker part
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and finally, a nice glass of skim milk
http://s195.photobucket.com/albums/z53/WhatTheFuck_33/?action=view&current=MOV04475.mp4

Hope you enjoyed this crazy Loco picture journey!
 
Nycdeisel,

momofthegoons

vapor accessory addict
Really a nice, trippy grain on it, NYC. Very nice!

And, loved your morning wake-up hit. Like, I said, what a great way to start the day! Enjoy! :lol:
 
momofthegoons,

kewpcer

Active Member
Yeah NYC, I dig it. It'll be a shame when Rick calls it back home, but I might have one done the same way but out of the myrtle block my RZ1 came from. I love that X pattern that came out of the turning on the one you got.

Good thing I remembered to pick up a 4'er of Sprecher's Orange Dream Soda. Something told me I'd need it today.
 
kewpcer,

Nycdeisel

Well-Known Member
Thanks you two. I believe that Black Locust is special in the way that it changes when you turn and twist it. anyway I suppose a similar pattern may exist. Its really a fantastic little Rockzap! runs quite a bit hotter then my Cherryzap which is good because now I have one for each kind of hit. one for lower temps, one for in the middle, and now this rockzap really cranks up the heat!

Thanks Rick! I love it!
 
Nycdeisel,

Alan

Master JedHI
Manufacturer
Lots of action going on here Rick. The RZ is looking very good. I think your air heater looks like a spool with the top and bottom flanges. Very effective.

Do you know if it is possible to cut granite or marble tiles with that water jet? You could polish the inside of the hole of the "Rock" ring. Then you would see polished stone rather than ceramic tile around the heat port. Petrified wood would be amazing.

Love the new all stainless air path vapor tubes. Shouldn't have to worry about those wood tubes breaking. Cleaning will be a snap. I wonder if a stone vapor tube is possible?
 
Alan,

HDLar

Well-Known Member
This zap porn is amazing. I am also hoping that the retros will be with the ceramic blanket. From what everyone who has one says they give the best hits ever. I have been getting similar great hits out of my walnut and my BURL RZ1. Haven't determined if one is better than the other, just when I think the RZ1 is better I get a super hit from the walnut. I have been alternating hits between the 2 but the nature of that test seems to confuse me even more. The more I test the more buzzed I get. Remember I'm not the brightest light bulb, I'm the one who couldn't figure out how to post pics here.
If the retros do have the ceramic blanket I will be getting 1 or 2 of my originals done.
 
HDLar,

momofthegoons

vapor accessory addict
:lol: Alan, you are always thinking! A stone vapor tube sounds amazing. I had a wonderful ebony chillum once upon a time. Your bringing this up made me think of it.... This would be sort of like using that.


^^^^^^
If the retros do have the ceramic blanket I will be getting 1 or 2 of my originals done.
I'm on board for that too. I have two that are begging for a makeover.
 
momofthegoons,

treecityrnd

Active Member
Rick said:
I always finish...off with a good ten minute hand job using...sandpaper.
Ouch. Careful there! And thanks so much for the info on the polish.

Kewpcer - that the one I ordered that should be here Wed. Looks great. We'll have to make sure our Jane's keep in touch. Adopted but they'll never forget their original birthplace. My vape needs a penpal?

NYC - thanks for the temp related info. That was exactly my hope the new RZs would be nice a hot with the ceramics. Beautiful. Bet its nice with that new BC11.
 
treecityrnd,

Nycdeisel

Well-Known Member
It really is! that video shows it very smoothly.
Thanks tree! I like those ones you call the Plain Janes :D
 
Nycdeisel,

HDLar

Well-Known Member
Mom you're bringing back old memories now .back in the early 70s I was a white guy with a fro . Lit my head on fire while timing on a chillum. I the burning hair stink to high heaven and my roommates laughed hilariously while I was beating my head with my hands to put the fire out. Oh the good ole days
 
HDLar,

momofthegoons

vapor accessory addict
My husband was a white guy with a fro too. Now, however, he is a white guy who is balding. :lol:

I lost that chillum. Was at the drive in (remember those?) and got a little too buzzed up. Had it on my lap, got out of the car and it fell to the ground. Never realized it was gone. Bummed me out too because it was irreplaceable. I had gotten it in Amsterdam in the early 70's. Oh well. Shit happens and I don't combust anymore! :D
 
momofthegoons,

kewpcer

Active Member
The brass adapter sleeve for the old stems makes older stems into custom bowl size stems, FYI. Pretty great. I can get about twice as much in the stem if I leave the brass fitting extended a !/4" or so.
 
kewpcer,

momofthegoons

vapor accessory addict
Good to know kewpcer. I need to get on that and modify my stems from Ed and the Tooties. Although I like the new SS stock stem a lot, I do love having choices.
 
momofthegoons,
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