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  1. charliedontsurf

    charliedontsurf Glassblower

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    I have super mixed feelings about New Belgium, I'm not a fan of all but one of their six pack beers, and to be completely honest, Fat Tire is one of my most disliked brews. It's one of those, like, one-toe-in-the-water microbrews, like Anchor Steam and Red hook. Whenever I force myself to take a sip of one as a matter of principle, I'm confirmed in my unabashed hatred.

    ON THE OTHER HAND, their Lips of Faith series has a couple of winners. Their La Terroir dry-hopped sour is one of the most interesting brews I've had in a long time! I had it last night and was simply blown away. It was kind of like an Imperial Gueze with a ridiculous dosage of amarillo dry hopping - when I popped the top, some of the most singularly funky hop aroma I've ever experienced smacked me in the face. Their Vrienden in the Lips of Faith Series was good-to-great as well. And the one six pack I kind of like is their 1554 Belgian black ale, that can be nice from time to time.

    I think the best Canadian brewery goes to these guys, Brasserie De Du Ciel http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1141, who while very expensive make some truly great stuff! Their Aphrodite stout easily is among the best I've ever had.
     
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  2. EveryDayAmnesiac

    EveryDayAmnesiac I am a stupid asshole.

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    What I'm eating for dinner tonight...

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    My second favorite Belgian style IPA... after Flying Dog's Raging Bitch. Gotta represent the East Coast. :rockon:

    Both go well with these:

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  3. Meremoth

    Meremoth AKA ♫ Stinky Wizzleteats ♫

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    Oh snap! I thought I was the only one that knew about Belgian IPA's. It's one my favorite styles.

    I've had Houblon Chouffe Dobbelen IPA Tripel, Piraat Ale, Urthel Hop-It, De Ranke XX Bitter, Poperings Hommel Bier, Duvel Tripel Hop, and some other ones.

    My favorite is probably Houblon, that stuff is pure ambrosia. If you haven't had it you really need to try it.

    All the other ones are good too, except Piraat; I didn't like that stuff at all. It was all malt and alcohol, with barely any hops. Way too sweet and just tasted weird, not good at all. Didn't even taste like a BIPA.

    I think I might have had a Saranac that wasn't very good, but none of their beers really are.
     
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  4. EveryDayAmnesiac

    EveryDayAmnesiac I am a stupid asshole.

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    I like a good BIPA now and then, but spicy beers to me are definitely a once-in-a-while sort of thing. I also like Blue Points White IPA and Harpoon's White IPA. Flying Dog's Wildeman Farmhouse IPA is pretty good too.

    I have also not enjoyed Saranac beers very much. Their price is usually about right though. :lol:

    Since you seem to know beers, was wondering if you could point me to the direction of a really good Russian Imperial Stout. I got hooked on these in Minnesota when the Surly Brewing Company did a special batch of it called "Darkness." It was the first time I'd ever paid over $30 for a single beer, and it was the best beer of my life. I don't live there anymore, and they don't ship outside of the state yet, I don't think. The closest I've come to matching it is the Rasputin RIS, but even that didn't really cut it. Any suggestions?
     
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  5. Meremoth

    Meremoth AKA ♫ Stinky Wizzleteats ♫

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    I'm a self-proclaimed hop-head, but I enjoy all different styles of beers, I don't discriminate.

    I'm the honorary member of a brewing club. I don't actually home-brew myself, but my buddy does, and I go to all their get-togethers and events and whatnot.

    I can't remember the most expensive beer I've ever purchased. I've bought some expensive vintage strong ales before. I think my buddy got Sam Adam's Utopia once, and that one was pretty expensive. One of my favorite beers, Hop Slam, is like $20 a 4-pack.

    If you like regular IPA's as well, you should try Bell's Two Hearted Ale. It's scrumcious. It's hoppy, but not overly spicy, and they do a really good job of balancing it with an almost creamy malt. I usually don't like malty IPA's, but this one is freakin' incredible. They don't filter their beers, you'll see like a layer of yeast at the bottom of the bottles, and I think that might add to the creamy like texture. I love that stuff, and often swirl it at the end before I pour it all out into my glass to get all that goodness.

    Let me preface this next bit by saying I mostly prefer RIS's that are balanced by a lot of hops, because of RIS's natural maltiness, and/or one that has a really good chocolate/coffee taste to it.

    As far as RIS's, I've had Stone's Imperial Russian Stout, Victory's Storm King Stout, Bell's Expedition Stout, Samuel Smith's Imperial Stout, Three Floyd's Dark Lord Imperial Stout, Great Lakes Blackout Stout, Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stout, Founders Imperial Stout, B.O.R.I.S. The Crusher Oatmeal Imperial Stout, and a few others and they're all delicious.

    My favorite over all is probably the Dark Lord. All of those are fairly hoppy except for Samuel Smith's, Brooklyn's, and Bell's. The Brooklyn beer has the most incredibly chocolate taste you'll ever have, right up there with Young's Double Chocolate Stout. The Bell's is fairly chocolatey, but has more of a coffee presence then the Brooklyn, and the Bell's beer is much lighter overall.

    The Sam Smith beer is the only one that doesn't fit in with my preface. It is neither chocolatey/coffeey or hoppy, but it is still good. Usually a beer I don't like, but I do like it for some reason. All the rest are hoppy and incredibly. If you want a strong one that still has a medium mouthfeel, you can drink the Blackout. I don't typically consider RIS's thirst quinchers, but if any of them are it's the Blackout. Don't mistake that for lack of flavor or power though, cause it'll kick your ass. All of the Great Lakes beer are good and all have a really crisp, clean taste, but really all those breweries are pretty awesome.
     
  6. EveryDayAmnesiac

    EveryDayAmnesiac I am a stupid asshole.

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    I LOVE the Two Hearted Ale. Just about anything by Belle's, really. The other day I had their amber ale for the first time. It was really nice. Little more bite than other ambers. Had a lot of personality to it.

    I've just started getting into the unfiltered beers. I'm not too far from Atlanta, and that city's breweries are really starting to push those, so I've been seeing a lot of 'em in my local stores. So much more aroma and flavor! Although I certainly wouldn't want unfiltered every time...

    Nice to have another beer enthusiast posting!

    There are some other interesting beer threads on this forum as well... ;)
     
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  7. nopartofme

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    Beer!!

    Oh, man. Where to start.

    I'm a hop head as well, I started my craft beer journey with DFH's 90 Minute IPA. I might say I've never been more confused, surprised, and intrigued by a first experience with anything else. I really love all styles, though. I'm a big fan, for instance, of great German hefeweizens, like Weihenstephaner. They also have a "hop twist" version I got to try on tap a while back called "Hoplosion" that is also very good! Definitely a restrained "plosion" of hops, but better altogether than I expected. Another favorite is Schneider Aventinus, a dark weizenbock that clocks in at 8.2% ABV. It is delicious.

    I have to agree with the love for Bell's and Two Hearted Ale, really great stuff. Also, EDA, I got to experience Surly recently too and they are amazing! All I had was their canned Furious IPA, but I've been craving more for months ever since.

    On the subject of stouts, I really enjoyed the one bottle I had of Old Rasputin Russian Imperial. I see it in grocery stores here on the east coast fairly often. Other favorite stouts have been those of Southern Tier. They make a couple of flavored imperial stouts, and the two I tried, Choklat and Mokah, have been seriously excellent.

    I could really go for a beer now.
     
  8. EveryDayAmnesiac

    EveryDayAmnesiac I am a stupid asshole.

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    I know! I love when beer enthusiasts come to where I bartend (beer only) ready to talk beer, beer, beer! Flavors, breweries, IBU's, whatever!

    I also like me some Dogfish Head beers. I love their IPAs and also their Raison D'Etre. They also had some kind of odd brown ale that was an interesting flavor.

    Looking forward to some Hefeweizens coming in soon! I usually like the Imperial Hefeweizens... it's the only time I like the flavor of banana in a liquid...


    Isn't Surly just amazing? There's nothing I miss more about the Twin Cities than Surly on tap. That Furious IPA is just frickin' sweet. When I left MN, I made sure to buy 6 of those canned pint 4-packs, but they didn't last nearly as long as I'd hoped. :lol: I don't know what they do to their IPA's, but I can't seem to find a replacement for it.

    Growing quite fond of Terrepin's "Hopsecutioner," and Flying Dog's "Snake Dog" and Sweetwater's unfiltered IPA here on the East Coast though... Asheville and Atlanta are particularly potent cities for awesome beer...

    I definitely like the Rasputin Stout too. But there's just.... something missing. I don't know. :shrug:

    I think what's so great about beer these days is not only the huge variety of beers from afar, but also that you can almost always find a good brewery closeby to enjoy. Very little is as satisfying as going to where a beer a good beer was made, and drinking it there!

    Now I just need to start brewing some myself... :science:
     
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  9. Meremoth

    Meremoth AKA ♫ Stinky Wizzleteats ♫

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    Your first experience mirrors mine.

    My entry into the craft scene was Sierra Nevada's Pale Ale. All I had had before that was nasty-ass macro light rice lagers. I had no idea beer could taste like that. Could taste so good! Could have so many different flavors. I was absolutely blown away. I knew, right there and then, that I had to try as many different craft beers as possible, and a friend and I started a journey that lasted five solid years of doing nothing but sampling craft brews from all over the world. Sierra Nevada will always hold a special place in my heart.

    The 60 minute and the 90 minute are both delicious. I've had their 120 minute too. That thing is a monster. I think I prefer their 90 minute, though. I have some of their other special release strange-ass concoctions that you don't think are going to be any good but actually turn out awesome. That brewery definitely experiments, that's for sure.

    The Aventinus is really good and their Weisse is also awesome. Their Weisse has this very distinct banana taste that I could tell is Schneider blindfolded. A lot of hefeweizens have a banana taste, but especially Schneider's Weisse. Unmistakable and fantastic.

    If you like wheat beers you should try Bell's Oberon. That shit is fucking fantastic, one of my favorite wheat beers of all time, and a wheat beer that actually has a hop profile! :mmmm:
     
  10. EveryDayAmnesiac

    EveryDayAmnesiac I am a stupid asshole.

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    I still get a boner every time I drink a Sierra Nevada Pale Ale. :uhoh:

    I have never, ever, ever had a Sierra Nevada that I didn't like. Even just their simple Summerfest lager is fucking delicious...
     
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  11. Meremoth

    Meremoth AKA ♫ Stinky Wizzleteats ♫

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    That's the great thing about living in America, we have more microbreweries than any other country in the world. :clap:


    I absolutely concur. I have never ever ever had a bad Sierra Nevada beer, and their also another company that has a shit ton of different beers, and every single one of them are good, hahaha, amazing company.

    They've gotten big but have never lost their way. I remember when they switched to twist caps shortly, and not very long afterwards they went straight back to the old caps.

    I also love their Torpedo, Celebration, and Harvest ales. Mmmmmmmmm. I wanna try their Hoptimum very badly.
     
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  12. EveryDayAmnesiac

    EveryDayAmnesiac I am a stupid asshole.

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    Can you believe that you can buy Sierra Nevada at Wal-Mart?

    SN Celebration = instant orgasm. I finally ran out of my stockpile of it a couple weeks ago. :( Oh well, it'll be winter soon enough...

    The SN Hoptimum? Holy frakking Gord... you need to do whatever you have to do to track that one down... 10% alcohol and you'll gulp it down!. So fucking good!
     
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  13. nopartofme

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    Yep Dogfish has a lot of good beers in their repertoire. Some of my favorites have been the Palo Santo Marron, Bitches Brew, and Sah'tea (chai!). I also got to have a bottle of their Squall IPA a few years back, and it was one of the best IPAs I've ever had. Unfiltered and bottle-conditioned 90 Minute with I believe a different selection of hops used in the dry hopping process. I had it while holed up in Maryland while Hurricane Irene was blowing by in 2011, so the title of the beer seemed fairly appropriate. I'll never forget that bottle!

    Yeah, I can't get enough of that hefe taste. I haven't had anything from Schneider besides Aventinus so far, I'm really looking forward to trying more.

    They really are fantastic, a close contender for my top brewery I'd love to have distributed over here in the east.

    I have to admit I only had it once, and at the time I was in the Caribbean and had been fruitlessly searching for good beer for weeks… I was so shocked when I found the Old Rasputin, that first cold sip was destined to be amazing no matter what. It sold me on the style at the very least!

    Well put. I'm fond of Sierra Nevada's pales as well, they were the first I tried after Dogfish Head. I actually started with Torpedo though, I think it was relatively new at the time. Great beer.

    Oh man, I somehow forgot about Celebration for a second. That beer… I want more every time I think about it.

    I definitely need to track down some Hoptimum too…

    Oberon is great! I got a mini keg of it for an impromptu Oktoberfest celebration a few years back, it looked pretty cool:

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  14. EveryDayAmnesiac

    EveryDayAmnesiac I am a stupid asshole.

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    Wow... all this talk about beer... good lord...

    I do declare that this faux Southern Eastern Gentleman has built up QUITE a thirst. Quite a thirst indeed... :cheers:
     
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  15. Meremoth

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    I use to stock up on that Celebration every winter. Seasonals just make the beer all that more special. I believe Oberon is a summer seasonal.

    I love those mini kegs. I've never seen that artistic one, that's nice. I've always got the ones that are bright orange. They make 'em for Two Hearted Ale too. I think I did the math on 'em once and it comes out to about 18 beers. Bell's beer are dangerously drinkable, especially when you have one of those mini kegs, you just want to keep getting more and more and more.
     
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  16. Meremoth

    Meremoth AKA ♫ Stinky Wizzleteats ♫

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    Speaking of dangerously drinkable beer, what's the most dangerously drinkable you've ever had?

    I would say mine would probably have to be one of the Belgian styles. They do an incredible job of masking very high alcohol content. Duvel, La Chouffe, Delerium Tremens... I can drink the crap out of them and they have a pretty high abv. Also there are some deceptively strong saisons like Fantome. God I love that stuff and I can drink way too much of it.

    BTW, it seems you guys like hoppy beer like me, and I forgot to mention one of my favorite IPA's of all time - Troegs Nugget Nectar. It's the bee's knees. :buzz:
     
  17. EveryDayAmnesiac

    EveryDayAmnesiac I am a stupid asshole.

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    It's already been mentioned, but.... the Bell's Two Hearted goes down smooth, and it's 7% abv... and for a guy my size, 7% is nothing to sneeze at...

    Also had one called "Hoptimus Prime" that was a double IPA, 9.0%, that was gone in just a few minutes. Found it in Florida, but haven't seen it since...

    I love some of the ridiculous names that some of the brewery's are starting to come up with... :lol:
     
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  18. nopartofme

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    One amazingly drinkable strong beer I once had was a beer called White Oak, brewed by The Bruery. That beer was amazing, and at 11.5% ABV it's one of the strongest I've personally had.
     
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  19. EveryDayAmnesiac

    EveryDayAmnesiac I am a stupid asshole.

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    Do you guys like when a beer has that much alcohol?

    I find that once it gets above 8%, I often just find it too heavy... sometimes, one of the high gravity's will have so much flavor that the alcohol is not so prominent, but... the more beer I drink, it seems the less I enjoy the higher alcohols.

    ?
     
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  20. Meremoth

    Meremoth AKA ♫ Stinky Wizzleteats ♫

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    I love beers of all styles. Some of the best beer I have ever had in my life was above 8%. All the ones I listed in the post above are above 8%. And I love doubles and triples of all styles.

    I don't necessarily enjoy boozy beers (like that nasty-ass Piraat), but having a high ABV really doesn't have as much to do with that as it does with how the beer was brewed. I've had low ABV's that tasted more boozy than ones that had higher alcohol content.

    I've also had ones that had higher ABV that had a lighter mouthfeel/body than ones with lower ABV.
     
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  21. EveryDayAmnesiac

    EveryDayAmnesiac I am a stupid asshole.

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    I need to start hanging around brewers and friends of brewers more.... I have so much to learn! :lol:

    Hard to believe that a product with so few ingredients could be so complex! :ko:
     
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    It's something I only enjoy once in a while, but I don't mind the alcohol so much as long as it's complemented well. I've had strong beers where the alcohol was too much, though I'm having trouble thinking of some off the top of my head… I've never had the 120 Minute IPA, but I am interested to try it.

    On the other hand, I think a lot more innovation could be done on the lighter side of things. I'd certainly like to enjoy more
    "sessionable" craft beers.

    I'm gonna get confused, posting about ABV in beer on FC…
     
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  23. EveryDayAmnesiac

    EveryDayAmnesiac I am a stupid asshole.

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    :lol: I was thinking that too.
     
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  24. Meremoth

    Meremoth AKA ♫ Stinky Wizzleteats ♫

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    That's the beautiful thing about beer. It's so simple, yet so complex. So much more complex than wine. Despite loving a merlot every now and again, I always laugh at haughty-taughty wine snobs. When I see them swirling their glass and sniffing their wine (which I do with my beer), I always giggle to myself just because I know my drink of choice is so much more complex and beautiful than theirs could ever be. If wine has a million flavors, beer has a zillion.


    I'm not sure sessionable craft beers will ever get really big because people who drink craft beers drink it for flavor for the most part, and lighter beers means less flavor.

    The thing is, I think there's a lot of good craft beer that I could definitely make a session of, and have.

    The Great Lakes beers I think are all pretty highly sessionable. You should try some if you can get your hands on any.
     
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  25. EveryDayAmnesiac

    EveryDayAmnesiac I am a stupid asshole.

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    I just want to see the day where beer is no longer divided into craft beer / corporate beer.

    I know that corporate beer still has its stronghold, but... it seems as though it's become weaker and weaker, as Generation X gets older and as more and more Millennials turn 21. The only people I know under 30 who drink corporate beer are either hillbillies, short on cash, in high school, or people buying beer that seems microbrewed but actually owned by a corporation. The last one really pisses me off, because they're setting out to fool people. I mean... well... even more so.

    You guys feel as though corporate beer is going away? Or am I full of shit?

    No corporate beer means one less sponsor of marijuana prohibition!
     
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