Rosin Technique....Easy DIY Solventless

Joel W.

Deplorable Basement Dweller
Accessory Maker
I really don't know much about these vices. But it seems unlikely that you can get 5 ton from that setup

It's my opinion/best guess, based off specs from a similar milling vise from Kurt vise manufacturer . You don't have to believe me. The chart says 80 ft pounds of torque on the handle is about 8000psi. I have taken the bolton vise to 100ft pounds of torque, no problem. Good square cut acme threads with zero flex...

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/rosin-technique-easy-diy-solventless.17470/page-73#post-872567
 
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roboticnightmares

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It's my opinion/best guess, based off specs from a similar milling vise from Kurt vise manufacturer . You don't have to believe me. The chart says 80 ft pounds of torque on the handle is about 8000psi. I have taken the bolton vise to 100ft pounds of torque, no problem. Good square cut acme threads with zero flex...

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/rosin-technique-easy-diy-solventless.17470/page-73#post-872567

Apologies if my tone came off wrong. Not that I don't believe you, like I said I don't know much about these vices other than the specs off the one I was looking at Home Depot site. anyhow thanks for dropping the knowledge.
 

Joel W.

Deplorable Basement Dweller
Accessory Maker
Apologies if my tone came off wrong. Not that I don't believe you, like I said I don't know much about these vices other than the specs off the one I was looking at Home Depot site. anyhow thanks for dropping the knowledge.

No apology needed Sir! That home depot vise you mentioned should work great for you. That is plenty of pressure for rosin. 3000psi is usually about where I squish, sometimes more, for no real reason. :)
 

BoogerMan

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No apology needed Sir! That home depot vise you mentioned should work great for you. That is plenty of pressure for rosin. 3000psi is usually about where I squish, sometimes more, for no real reason. :)
I don't even hit 3kpsi. I go up to about 2500psi max and that's only if I'm pressing at 180F. Anything over that doesn't seem to make a difference from my experience. The vise easily does what it needs to on the 2" round plates :D anyone wanting to crank higher than 4 tons better have bigger plates :lol:
 

jl420

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http://tarik-rosin-extraction.myshopify.com/

Has anyone tried this do-it-yourself small press? $200 is steep but found dealer on eBay selling brand new exact same unit for $115 free shipping. Videos make it look easy and the couple of reviews I've found basically said the price ($200) was the biggest negative. Any feedback is always appreciated...
 

poonman

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http://tarik-rosin-extraction.myshopify.com/

Has anyone tried this do-it-yourself small press? $200 is steep but found dealer on eBay selling brand new exact same unit for $115 free shipping. Videos make it look easy and the couple of reviews I've found basically said the price ($200) was the biggest negative. Any feedback is always appreciated...

It's been discussed , Not worth it .
Uses manual pressure , your own strength .
Too much , will break it or usage over time .
You're better off with a straightener and vise/clamp .
I think I saw it for $80 from an oversea site ...
 

PNW_High_Times

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http://tarik-rosin-extraction.myshopify.com/

Has anyone tried this do-it-yourself small press? $200 is steep but found dealer on eBay selling brand new exact same unit for $115 free shipping. Videos make it look easy and the couple of reviews I've found basically said the price ($200) was the biggest negative. Any feedback is always appreciated...

For $40 more you can have @Joel W.'s plates and the Bolton vise and you'll have a much better return and user experience than trying to use that POS.
 

jl420

Well-Known Member
I know many in the FC community didn't like the Tarik/Rosin press but I got one anyway for $100. (I know expensive hair straightner) I used a small bud (size of a nickel) and gave it a press. I managed to get a real fat nice sized dab out of it and it was a tasty/head spinning rip. The co. claims you can still vape the pressed bud so I used my DBV & got a few good whacks off the bud. Not as tasty as fresh flower but still waste not want not.
 

hektik8625

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I know many in the FC community didn't like the Tarik/Rosin press but I got one anyway for $100. (I know expensive hair straightner) I used a small bud (size of a nickel) and gave it a press. I managed to get a real fat nice sized dab out of it and it was a tasty/head spinning rip. The co. claims you can still vape the pressed bud so I used my DBV & got a few good whacks off the bud. Not as tasty as fresh flower but still waste not want not.

Cool! Well might as well put it to the test then....... :) maybe use it with a clamp or vise..... Or maybe not.....for a hundred bucks though.......man!
 

SamuraiSam

Extraction Technician
For those who have not upgraded to Joel W plates or anything of that sort and are still using hair straighteners / presses with hair straightener plates;

I got a wet 2 straight with analog dial so I could add resistance to lower the heat output. Has anyone had success with adding a resistor inline with the potentiometer or heaters?

My original idea was to just build a box with a dimmer switch that outputs to a socket that I'd plug the hair straightener into.
 

hektik8625

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Im almost done with my mini hydraulic press, and finished plates already! will post pics soon, but if your looking for a straightener try THIS. digitally adjust temps from 122-450F.... I got it cause someone recommended it to me, and was stoked when I got it. I had the OLD OLD version (THIS ONE) wet2straight and that one went below 180f also... the new wet2straights don't. The only bad part of that one is that one heat plate had holes in it down the sides.
 

SamuraiSam

Extraction Technician
Im almost done with my mini hydraulic press, and finished plates already! will post pics soon, but if your looking for a straightener try THIS. digitally adjust temps from 122-450F.... I got it cause someone recommended it to me, and was stoked when I got it. I had the OLD OLD version (THIS ONE) wet2straight and that one went below 180f also... the new wet2straights don't. The only bad part of that one is that one heat plate had holes in it down the sides.
That's an easier solution but wet2straight's pads are already integrated into my quick grip, and it requires more money. I'm rocking an Irwin clamp and hair straightener because I can't invest in a more powerful setup at this time and am resorting to basic electronics to help reduce the heat output on a budget. Has anyone come across a writeup, video, anyone else trying to do the same?

It looks like power to the heating pads is adjusted via a potentiometer. Underneath the cover it looks like this.
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(It's "RP1" on the circuit board with a phillips head in the center.) Potentiometers have three leads this one's on the bottom since its a surface mount pot:

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Perhaps if I can find a potentiometer that would allow an increased range of control I could simply desolder this one and put new one in its place.

Any other thoughts?
 

jl420

Well-Known Member
Cool! Well might as well put it to the test then....... :) maybe use it with a clamp or vise..... Or maybe not.....for a hundred bucks though.......man!

I agree hektik8625, I think between $65-$80 would be a better price but at least $100 is better than $200 as on their main web site. (They must be High :wave:) This little press is nice & convenient when I get my hands on some quality flower material and want to do a tasty dab that's solvent free. I used 3 small buds weighing in total 1 gram tonight and pressed myself 3 nice dabs. If people want concentrates on a grander scale than should buy a hydraulic press set-up but this Tarik/Rosin press is more of Saturday movie night with the wife catchin' a buzz & flix...
 

EpicNameGuy

Well-Known Member
That's an easier solution but wet2straight's pads are already integrated into my quick grip, and it requires more money. I'm rocking an Irwin clamp and hair straightener because I can't invest in a more powerful setup at this time and am resorting to basic electronics to help reduce the heat output on a budget. Has anyone come across a writeup, video, anyone else trying to do the same?

It looks like power to the heating pads is adjusted via a potentiometer. Underneath the cover it looks like this.
b40CERJl.jpg


(It's "RP1" on the circuit board with a phillips head in the center.) Potentiometers have three leads this one's on the bottom since its a surface mount pot:

EJQS1AQl.jpg


Perhaps if I can find a potentiometer that would allow an increased range of control I could simply desolder this one and put new one in its place.

Any other thoughts?

Yes, you theoretically could do this.. and since your intention is to throttle down the heat on the pads, it's probably safe if you have competent electronics skills which you sound like you do if you can ID the pot and understand how it operates.

I probably don't need to tell you this, but changing the resistance value across the pot to something outside of the intended range can and probably will have unintended consequences, including potentially overheating another part not rated for the new stress. More likely though, is that on the bottom end if you exceed a parts tolerance, the device will likely just fail to operate.

Truth is, you'd really need to understand the whole circuit to anticipate the outcome. However, especially for cheaper devices, the tolerances of all the various parts are likely not very tight... which means there is probably leeway for variation in current & voltage aka watts.

If it were me... I'd probably spend some time tracing the circuit leads from the pot and see what's adjacent. A schematic would be even better. The only potentially dangerous thing I can see would be a capacitor overload and pop, but it shouldn't be fire inducing. Don't take my word for that.

The above is a misstatement however in the sense that I would probably assess the situation, and then opt out as it's a cheap AC device and I don't like the prospect of an electrical fire ruining the investment I'm trying to protect.

It's been a while, but IIRC, you could hook up another resister in parallel with the pot and split the voltage between the two path ways. Or, hook up another resister in series and further restrict the current. It depends on the circuit and what the heating pads operate on though.

Good luck!

If you're very confident though, you could definitely do it. Just do it right.
 

Doobii

Member
Yes, you theoretically could do this.. and since your intention is to throttle down the heat on the pads, it's probably safe if you have competent electronics skills which you sound like you do if you can ID the pot and understand how it operates.

I probably don't need to tell you this, but changing the resistance value across the pot to something outside of the intended range can and probably will have unintended consequences, including potentially overheating another part not rated for the new stress. More likely though, is that on the bottom end if you exceed a parts tolerance, the device will likely just fail to operate.

Truth is, you'd really need to understand the whole circuit to anticipate the outcome. However, especially for cheaper devices, the tolerances of all the various parts are likely not very tight... which means there is probably leeway for variation in current & voltage aka watts.

If it were me... I'd probably spend some time tracing the circuit leads from the pot and see what's adjacent. A schematic would be even better. The only potentially dangerous thing I can see would be a capacitor overload and pop, but it shouldn't be fire inducing. Don't take my word for that.

The above is a misstatement however in the sense that I would probably assess the situation, and then opt out as it's a cheap AC device and I don't like the prospect of an electrical fire ruining the investment I'm trying to protect.

It's been a while, but IIRC, you could hook up another resister in parallel with the pot and split the voltage between the two path ways. Or, hook up another resister in series and further restrict the current. It depends on the circuit and what the heating pads operate on though.

Good luck!

If you're very confident though, you could definitely do it. Just do it right.
I think the capacitor would jus melt. But yeah it does sound possible, jus gotta put the time into those tolerences of the components.
 
Doobii,

hektik8625

Well-Known Member
k heres my mini press I made using a 4ton pancake hydraulic ram. I kept it small for me and my desk and made three different heat plate sets to mess with but so far the 1 1/2in circle ones work best for me. everything magnetically connects. All I need to do is beautify it a little more and coat it to prevent rust. I designed a case for the electronics and 3D printed it and also made a fake logo for fun cause Im a graphic designer too.... =) The case can be used as an Enail too, and the press can double as a mini art press for hot foil embossing and other art stuff you could use a hydraulic press on. jewelers might like it also.....
 

ROTHKO

New Member
I am looking into buying new bags and was wondering what the community recommends? I used mash's before but am concerned about them being made of PET. SS and organic silk look appealing. Does anyone know a nylon like bag that is not made from PET? is SS good for compacted dry sift?
 
ROTHKO,

PPN

Volute of Vapor
k heres my mini press I made using a 4ton pancake hydraulic ram. I kept it small for me and my desk and made three different heat plate sets to mess with but so far the 1 1/2in circle ones work best for me. everything magnetically connects. All I need to do is beautify it a little more and coat it to prevent rust. I designed a case for the electronics and 3D printed it and also made a fake logo for fun cause Im a graphic designer too.... =) The case can be used as an Enail too, and the press can double as a mini art press for hot foil embossing and other art stuff you could use a hydraulic press on. jewelers might like it also.....
One word: AMAZING!!!!
 

olysh pops

Well-Known Member
k heres my mini press I made using a 4ton pancake hydraulic ram. I kept it small for me and my desk and made three different heat plate sets to mess with but so far the 1 1/2in circle ones work best for me. everything magnetically connects. All I need to do is beautify it a little more and coat it to prevent rust. I designed a case for the electronics and 3D printed it and also made a fake logo for fun cause Im a graphic designer too.... =) The case can be used as an Enail too, and the press can double as a mini art press for hot foil embossing and other art stuff you could use a hydraulic press on. jewelers might like it also.....

Thanks for sharing :)

Beautiful case and logo !

What a good idea to use enail electronic ! Please, can you explain how plate get warm ?
 

hektik8625

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@olysh Thanks Bro!

And to answer your question about the plates, I use mini heater cartridges I found on ALIEXPRESS. the 80w ones went in the biggest set of plates. Then I use K type sensor thermocouples. the same ones used on multimeters. The only thing I had help on was with the heater plates getting milled perfectly flat, other than that I did the rest in my apt living room with a mini drill press, Dewalt cobalt drill bits, 3in1 oil, an Idea and a will. This is my first time working with metal. I learned so much through the process....
 

herb forester

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k heres my mini press I made using a 4ton pancake hydraulic ram. I kept it small for me and my desk and made three different heat plate sets to mess with but so far the 1 1/2in circle ones work best for me. everything magnetically connects. All I need to do is beautify it a little more and coat it to prevent rust. I designed a case for the electronics and 3D printed it and also made a fake logo for fun cause Im a graphic designer too.... =) The case can be used as an Enail too, and the press can double as a mini art press for hot foil embossing and other art stuff you could use a hydraulic press on. jewelers might like it also.....
Mind sharing your source for the hand pump and cylinder? Is that Enerpac?
 
herb forester,
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