Discontinued VapeXhale Cloud EVO

Likes2vape said:

That bites it arrived defective!! How's the vapor production? Taste improving?

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Nah, definitely tastes off, kinda covers the herb. Still smells off too. Works in a way but certainly not correctly, not nice vapor, hope its not harnful though at least? However, vapor production is big, kinda crazy big actually, I'm sure it must nuts when working properly with tasty vapor...

But yeah definitely sucks a whole lot, expensive but that's mass produced electronics... And just my luck, been through this many times. Guess I'll email support tomorrow, though probably don't work til Monday anyhow? Means I won't know for a while I suppose and won't actually have a non defective one to try until who knows when.

Still dont know about the hydratube, I mean it works great, and im looking forward to using it with other vapes (like Daisy tomorrow), super smooth. But I still don't know if there are cracks like in the picture above and it needs to be sent back too...

Shit Snacks said:

Still dont know about the hydratube, I mean it works great, and im looking forward to using it with other vapes (like Daisy tomorrow), super smooth. But I still don't know if there are cracks like in the picture above and it needs to be sent back too...

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Can you get any better pictures?
Or circle problem areas in the pics?

They are hand made so differences in how pieces align or where perc slits are etc are normal.

But does your have cracks in the glass?

It's hard to tell from the pictures but it looks like a bad weld around and he perc arms. That would really be bummer having to send everything back. Hopefully they cover the shipping both ways!

Likes2vape said:

It's hard to tell from the pictures but it looks like a bad weld around and he perc arms. That would really be bummer having to send everything back. Hopefully they cover the shipping both ways!

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@MinnBobber this is what I'm talking about, the area connecting the arms to the dome part of the perc, not talking about misalignment but is that a crack or a weld as likes2vape puts it, close to the arms i think I may see a crack but I can't tell frankly. I'll be at my buddy's with it tomorrow, he has a better camera and is better with photography so I'll post a better pic then...

Meantime I actually just sent VapeXhale an email now to get it out of the way, said I'm not yet sure about the tube but the Evo is definitely defective in at least two ways.

@Likes2vape if they try to charge me return shipping I would flat out refuse and demand a refund, but I am confident that won't be the case I'd be shocked if so

Thanks guys

I'm sorry your initial evo experience isn't more positive @Shit Snacks
Did you get a dry mouthpiece with it?
Have you verified the integrity of the bamboo?

grokit said:

I'm sorry your initial evo experience isn't more positive @Shit Snacks
Did you get a dry mouthpiece with it?
Have you verified the integrity of the bamboo?

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No dry mouthpiece, did try some empty draws through the empty tube though, didn't notice the taste as much until trying with herbs, bc its definitely not quite right, but its more smell than taste probably...

I'm not sure I can verify the bamboo integrity, its hard to see in there, not sure I even see those bamboo seems in the glass that were described earlier when I look down into it it... Seems to be airtight if I block the intake hole at least?

Shit Snacks said:

Seems to be airtight if I block the intake hole at least?

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If your cold Evo is airtight when you blow in it and plug one end, the bamboo should be good. Unless your bamboo is really messed up you probably won't see anything.

c76man said:

If your cold Evo is airtight when you blow in it and plug one end, the bamboo should be good. Unless your bamboo is really messed up you probably won't see anything.

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Yeah seems its just the power switch, and whatever unholy spirit causing the bad smell and taste Will update later with better perc pics... Happy Hallows

I couldn't resist the sale plus an extra 10% thank to the code from @stickstones. I just pulled the tigger on the hydratree kit!!

Looks like I'm going to have some 'splainin to do to the wifey!

Likes2vape said:

I couldn't resist the sale plus an extra 10% thank to the code from @stickstones. I just pulled the tigger on the hydratree kit!!

Looks like I'm going to have some 'splainin to do to the wifey!

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Yeah dude! The hydratree is freaking incredible (even though I may need it replaced)

Jury's still out on the vape for me of course...

Shit Snacks said:

Yeah dude! The hydratree is freaking incredible (even though I may need it replaced)

Jury's still out on the vape for me of course...

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I dont think that's a crack in your Hydratree. I think that's the seal in the glass. I have 2pieces that have similar looking welds very close too the glass. You can't tell at all especially when they are wet. I will say if it had cracks or a crack you'd know though performance alone

Whats up everybody,
I've been reading this site for years and finally am able to sign up now that I'm a licensed medical cannabis user.

I wanted to share a video I put together using my vapexhale doing a strain review.

Cannabis Connoisseur said:

I dont think that's a crack in your Hydratree. I think that's the seal in the glass. I have 2pieces that have similar looking welds very close too the glass. You can't tell at all especially when they are wet. I will say if it had cracks or a crack you'd know though performance alone

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Thanks man, yeah its not quite a crack, but not every arm of the tree has it, and even my cheap Chinese 10arm tree perc doesn't have that... Wouldn't expect $200 glass to be like that. Also a couple of the arms are noticeably longer than the rest, uneven. Again not a huge deal, it seems to work, but for $200 is this really the standard? Would just affirm that its probably not worth spending that kind of money on glass then if it can't even be flawless...

I should have taken a pic before getting water in it, this is the best other one I could get and the upside down one on the other page might be better:

You can see it on the middle one, and the one to its right doesn't have it (but there is some kind of tiny triangle seam between them).

Glass fogs so much with condensation after rinsing I can't get it dry or fully clean for a decent picture... It certainly works well enough to know that I really like the tube, but I don't know if I can believe this is really the standard they set for nice pricey glass? It's very thick and well designed otherwise

It would be nice to only have to send the Evo back, but I also want to make sure I have what I should have, since you only get the first 24 hours tondeal with it, don't want to have a problem later bc the perc was off and be told theres nothing they can do (or them to try to charge me to inspect/replace)...

Meanwhile Evo still taste/smells a little off, like taste on the first hit is alright, maybe some flavor second or third, but there's something bad about it to me. You could argue diffusion, but using the T1 with PA through it was so much tastier, let the herb shine, and Daisy too (damn meant to take a pic of the tube on Daisy for that thread... Next time, its fucking cool). Maybe there's something wrong with my temp dial, along with the busted power switch? I'll test below noon today to see more I suppose, but if this is the actual taste standard for these units I must say I am thoroughly unimpressed.

I can't believe it's right, given everything I've heard. And since its definitely defective in at least one way, I have to reserve judgement until I have a fully working replacement of course. Just won't hear from them til Monday the earliest so no way to know anything for sure yet I suppose, they may say to send it all back regardless. Hopefully sending replacement immediately in an ideal world.

Thanks for the support/help, not fun to deal with but this community always makes it a whole lot more palatable

@Shit Snacks sucks you're having some problems with your EVO, here is my .02

- Regarding your glass. I don't think it is a crack, perhaps a weird weld? If it functions correctly, I don't think it should be a huge deal....that being said, my Evolver Hydratree is one of, if not the nicest, piece of glass I own. It's blown really thick, and it feels well made in hand......BUT another reason I lean towards that train of thought is that all the percs are perfectly aligned. My tree is perfectly symmetrical, looks the same 360 degrees, I can't find anything resembling what you're describing. I would totally be miffed if it wasn't 100% perfect for the price I paid (or, better term, what its listed at), so I can understand your frustration/concern. Glad to see that it does seem to be working though.

- Regarding a weird smell. Do you have that sleeve on it? @twosilvertrees mentioned she was getting lots of neoprene smell, wasn't something I noticed but that could perhaps be what you're smelling? It apparently dissipates/stops smelling pretty quickly, but I personally didn't notice it. I don't even know what neoprene smells like lol, so I'm of less help here.

- Regarding an off/bad taste. What temp are you set too? How packed are you loading your ELBs? I find that taste seems to decline a bit when I pack them fully, first few hits taste awesome and then it declines as the center gets over vaped and the sides get vaped (Between 1 & 3 for me on the dial). Try loading less, and setting a lower temp. Or loading less, and keeping the temp up higher. Just, try less and see if that modifies the taste is what I'm getting at. In the video that guy posted above, he was just smacking his little mini ELBs 3 times, so maybe a smaller amount will lessen crappy or off taste. I mention this because when I kick my ELBs, most of it is pretty dark and some of it just isn't vaped as heavy (definitely vaped though), and it seems to coincide with taste/usage for me (I tend to hit it a few times once it starts tasting a little spent, these definitely don't taste great) So if you're doing something similar and getting poor taste, maybe the smaller amount will remedy?

Best of luck to you with it, hopefully nothing too serious

HellsWindStaff said:

@Shit Snacks sucks you're having some problems with your EVO, here is my .02

- Regarding your glass. I don't think it is a crack, perhaps a weird weld? If it functions correctly, I don't think it should be a huge deal....that being said, my Evolver Hydratree is one of, if not the nicest, piece of glass I own. It's blown really thick, and it feels well made in hand......BUT another reason I lean towards that train of thought is that all the percs are perfectly aligned. My tree is perfectly symmetrical, looks the same 360 degrees, I can't find anything resembling what you're describing. I would totally be miffed if it wasn't 100% perfect for the price I paid (or, better term, what its listed at), so I can understand your frustration/concern. Glad to see that it does seem to be working though.

- Regarding a weird smell. Do you have that sleeve on it? @twosilvertrees mentioned she was getting lots of neoprene smell, wasn't something I noticed but that could perhaps be what you're smelling? It apparently dissipates/stops smelling pretty quickly, but I personally didn't notice it. I don't even know what neoprene smells like lol, so I'm of less help here.

- Regarding an off/bad taste. What temp are you set too? How packed are you loading your ELBs? I find that taste seems to decline a bit when I pack them fully, first few hits taste awesome and then it declines as the center gets over vaped and the sides get vaped (Between 1 & 3 for me on the dial). Try loading less, and setting a lower temp. Or loading less, and keeping the temp up higher. Just, try less and see if that modifies the taste is what I'm getting at. In the video that guy posted above, he was just smacking his little mini ELBs 3 times, so maybe a smaller amount will lessen crappy or off taste. I mention this because when I kick my ELBs, most of it is pretty dark and some of it just isn't vaped as heavy (definitely vaped though), and it seems to coincide with taste/usage for me (I tend to hit it a few times once it starts tasting a little spent, these definitely don't taste great) So if you're doing something similar and getting poor taste, maybe the smaller amount will remedy?

Best of luck to you with it, hopefully nothing too serious

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Thanks man,

Yeah the glass is high quality, hence why I feel like it shouldn't look like this right?:

That's the more jagged area of the "crack" that little triangle v in between those two arms...

And for the arms length, most are at an angle, as they should be, but a couple seem to be cut flat and as a result hang longer than the rest:


Regardless I definitely want to keep this hydratube, just may need a replacement to get a perfect one like you seem to have? It's certainly a great piece, very thick glass.

Regarding pack, yeah I've done tiny bowls, full bowls, you name it. Various strains too, with other people, we were comparing the taste to like Imag/Xmax frankly, sometimes the herb flavor comes through a bit, but not much and there's some kind of overpowering Meh flavor covering the goodness, but maybe it's extracting too fast? Been using 12-2 on the dial, for the most part only 12-12:30 really, so I'll try going below and see if maybe my temp dial is off a bit? It certainly can go very far in both directions, almost all the way around, so there's a very small range of usability it seems? We got some of the herb black at like noon or so after say nine hits with two friends yesterday...

More testing to come

Can't wait 'til you get that thing exchanged, Snacks. You really shouldn't be getting a bad flavor. The EVO should shine here, not make you furrow your brow, not to mention the switch not working properly. You may as well send the HT back IMO and try to get a perfect one. It's a bummer that you're not getting the proper experience yet.

EDIT: That's a much better pic. Send that back. Definitely not typical.

That seems dark for the temp imo, but there are a lot of variables at play so its hard to say for sure. Those are much better pictures and I can confirm my Hydratube looks nothing like that :/ I have a little dot weld (idk really how to describe this) at the top of each arm between each arm and all my percs are even (maybe a slight (5 degrees? If that) tilt in one direction, hard to tell with water in it)

Sure both will be taken care of, bummer you're having problems. Glad we can definitively say your Hydratube is out of the ordinary though

sorry it's not a dream boat first run @Shit Snacks. You shouldn't be getting any meh taste unless you are too high on the temp, and it doesn't sound like you are. My guess is you have a bad temp/power set up since we know your button doesn't work, right? I never get meh taste until I am up in the 3 range. If you haven't started a ticket, please do and let me know if I need to get involved on your behalf.

stickstones said:

sorry it's not a dream boat first run @Shit Snacks. You shouldn't be getting any meh taste unless you are too high on the temp, and it doesn't sound like you are. My guess is you have a bad temp/power set up since we know your button doesn't work, right? I never get meh taste until I am up in the 3 range. If you haven't started a ticket, please do and let me know if I need to get involved on your behalf.

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Thanks sticks! Even with the flaws, I can at least see why this is such a popular vape!

After a morning session starting lower on the dial that does indeed seem to be the case! Taste seemed to be improved, with deep extraction even well before noon. It's still not even quite pure tasting, but its not overcooking like it was before so that was the real culprit.

I emailed them midnight Friday to inform them of the power switch and smell/taste issue, and said I would follow up about the glass with photos. Did that this morning, confirming the perc is off in the hydratree and the taste hadn't improved. Do you think I should send anohtet update now that the taste/smell issue seems to be caused by a faulty dial running too hot?

So it is decidedly a faulty dial, and a faulty switch, along with a flawed hydratube. I mentioned I expect a return label, and would love it if a replacement kit (that is also checked first) could be sent out immediately so I don't have to wait for them to try to inspect and repair this one, as it arrived defective and I notified them well under the 24 hours that was mentioned. Of course they don't work weekends I guess so no replies yet, presume it all should go smooth though right? I expect great service based on price and rep

@Shit Snacks
Did you do an initial burn-off? If not that could explain a few things like how it's starting to get better now. I would set it at 3-4pm for a full power cycle, which should get rid of any remaining offending odors.

Shit Snacks said:

Thanks sticks! Even with the flaws, I can at least see why this is such a popular vape!

After a morning session starting lower on the dial that does indeed seem to be the case! Taste seemed to be improved, with deep extraction even well before noon. It's still not even quite pure tasting, but its not overcooking like it was before so that was the real culprit.

I emailed them midnight Friday to inform them of the power switch and smell/taste issue, and said I would follow up about the glass with photos. Did that this morning, confirming the perc is off in the hydratree and the taste hadn't improved. Do you think I should send anohtet update now that the taste/smell issue seems to be caused by a faulty dial running too hot?

So it is decidedly a faulty dial, and a faulty switch, along with a flawed hydratube. I mentioned I expect a return label, and would love it if a replacement kit (that is also checked first) could be sent out immediately so I don't have to wait for them to try to inspect and repair this one, as it arrived defective and I notified them well under the 24 hours that was mentioned. Of course they don't work weekends I guess so no replies yet, presume it all should go smooth though right? I expect great service based on price and rep

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I'm amongst the people here super sad you didn't get a good unit. I see how many vapes you go through, so I was really looking forward to your opinion of what i consider to be the standard for herbal vapor production. The EVO has smooth, flavorful, cool vapor that has for me personally it has set the bar so high, that an airplane could fly under it.
I also think you may as well send the hydratube back. I had to send my EVO back 3 times before i ever got to use it.
Customer service did so well it seemed like I felt i was troubling them! When you do get a properly working setup you too will look back this as something not so bad for what you'll eventually have. Sorry about the troubles!

grokit said:

@Shit Snacks
Did you do an initial burn-off? If not that could explain a few things like how it's starting to get better now. I would set it at 3-4pm for a full power cycle, which should get rid of any remaining offending odors.

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Yeah grok, its been on a long long time.
It's the dial that's out of wack, just tuned too hot it seems, difficult to say for sure, but given what I'm hearing its just not quite right despite the improvement. So in any case it will be replaced I'm sure, hope next one is pure out of the box as something like this should be...

Thanks @Cannabis Connoisseur I can definitely appreciate a lot of the allure now, but yeah its a shame I'll have to wait a bit more for the true experience, hopefully not too long though. A whole weekend was too long to go without using it even though I knew it was faulty, and it can definitely kick out the clouds per its name. Hopefully I'll get the smooth tastiness more next time, I have faith that they will come through for me...

Oh forgot to reply to whoever asked about the neoprene sleeve, which definitely stinks on its own, so I haven't been using it at all anyway (the intital bad smell was before i even opened the sleeve's plastic, yesterday we opened it and tried it on for a second but it stunk even more so took it right off. Its not so necessary but yeah would be nice if it was neutral too, also if it was only a band vs full sleeve)

Shit Snacks said:

Oh forgot to reply to whoever asked about the neoprene sleeve, which definitely stinks on its own, so I haven't been using it at all anyway (the intital bad smell was before i even opened the sleeve's plastic, yesterday we opened it and tried it on for a second but it stunk even more so took it right off. Its not so necessary but yeah would be nice if it was neutral too, also if it was only a band vs full sleeve)

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I refused to use it at first because of the smell, grabbed it about 3-4 weeks later and it has diminished to almost nothing. I use it since then and if i want to get any smell from it now I really need to stick my nose to it.
I got a little bit of a smell from the unit itself at first but this was gone after a few heat up`s and did not affect the taste of the vapor. Could`t be caused by the o-ring sealing the top of the bamboo, but wouldn`t bet on it.

Shit Snacks said:

Thanks man,

Yeah the glass is high quality, hence why I feel like it shouldn't look like this right?:

That's the more jagged area of the "crack" that little triangle v in between those two arms...

And for the arms length, most are at an angle, as they should be, but a couple seem to be cut flat and as a result hang longer than the rest:

Regardless I definitely want to keep this hydratube, just may need a replacement to get a perfect one like you seem to have? It's certainly a great piece, very thick glass.

Regarding pack, yeah I've done tiny bowls, full bowls, you name it. Various strains too, with other people, we were comparing the taste to like Imag/Xmax frankly, sometimes the herb flavor comes through a bit, but not much and there's some kind of overpowering Meh flavor covering the goodness, but maybe it's extracting too fast? Been using 12-2 on the dial, for the most part only 12-12:30 really, so I'll try going below and see if maybe my temp dial is off a bit? It certainly can go very far in both directions, almost all the way around, so there's a very small range of usability it seems? We got some of the herb black at like noon or so after say nine hits with two friends yesterday...

More testing to come

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I recently bought an Evo as you did. Just in time not to get advantage of the recent sale.
I got a Turbine HT, simpler design than your HT. But I also noticed too much imperfections for the price it's sold at.
They can say it's handmade but in a real hurry. I could quibble about the minor imperfection affecting my HT that perhaps affect also functionality. But I'm too lazy for that, now.

One of the welds on my hydrabase is slightly imperfect. I also have no time to complain. Function is not affected and it is still a beautiful piece

It does state there will be minor variance on all glass listings and have seen it for myself. Although, differences I have seen have all been cosmetic and very slight, yours does seem little more severe. All pieces I have wrapped my lips around from VXH have had beautiful function in my opinion.

On the other hand, my hydrabomb is perfect..literally flawless

Namaste