Looking for new experience

Loooong time lurker. First time poster (I believe). Hello all.

I own an EQ, a Solo, a MFLB, and a Pax 1. I have attempted on many occasions to pull the trigger on another vape, but I always chicken out because I do not think the new vape will be better than any of my old vapes.

Vapes considered and chickened out on: Epicvape (seems more or less just like a corded Solo). Plenty (lots of plastic and "cooling tube" looks hard to clean). Volcano (I almost always smoke alone, $500 is steep for a "party vape" when EQ already does bags). Firefly (seems unreliable and the Solo is a good cordless home vape already). SS products (don't seem to offer much different experience than the Arizer products). The Air and Pax 2 seem too similar to their predecessors.

I use the Solo daily. I use the 40 dollar water tool connected to the oem straight glass tube via 1 inch silicone tubing. I also use the Solo sized screens. I really like the simplicity of the the Solo. I have purchased PVHES but they have not arrived yet. For regular on the go vaping, I use the Pax. For super stealth situations, I use the MFLB. When I feel like playing around, I explore the numerous options of my EQ.

Some days I feel like I have the perfect 4 vapes for my needs, but I really would like something (if possible) that offers a novel vaping experience. Where do you think I should start?

I think you should start with flame powered vapes.

A vapman or a Lotus or a Daisy or a Lily or a Vaporgenie or all of them as each offers something different and unique.

If you need to stick to batteries I would suggest waiting for a Grasshopper or go for a Firefly or an Elevape or a Crafty/Mighty.

Frankly I would get rid of your collection for any of those I suggest since you vape mostly alone… Although the EQ should be nice for parties and gatherings…

Greetings! Indeed this is your first post, congrats! Welcome

First off

humblesmurph said:

Epicvape (seems more or less just like a corded Solo)

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Soooo Wrong
http://fuckcombustion.com/search/25027806/?q=solo&t=post&o=date&c[thread]=7844

Log vapes are in a different category. They are slow to heat (slowest to change temps in my experience). But after about 30 minutes of preheating, they're unstoppable beasts. (All logs, not just Nano's).

humblesmurph said:

I use the Solo daily. I use the 40 dollar water tool connected to the oem straight glass tube via 1 inch silicone tubing. I also use the Solo sized screens. I really like the simplicity of the the Solo. I have purchased PVHES but they have not arrived yet. For regular on the go vaping, I use the Pax. For super stealth situations, I use the MFLB. When I feel like playing around, I explore the numerous options of my EQ.

Some days I feel like I have the perfect 4 vapes for my needs, but I really would like something (if possible) that offers a novel vaping experience. Where do you think I should start?

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You've got 4 electronic vaporizers. Why not try a butane powered vaporizer and see what all the fuss is about

The Hammer, Lotus, Vapman, Daisy, Lily, and Vaporgenie all come to mind.

Personally I suggest you check out the Lotus or the Vapman. I'm partial to my Lotus, but it's hard to recommend to others because it can be difficult to learn how to use (especially for vape newbies).

Edit, seems @natural farmer had the same idea

Would you consider a torch vape?

What about concentrates? You have access to them/would you use them?

When you say "better" are you you looking for a different feeling or just overall experience? And your criteria of better might be different than someone else. Personally I think what you have covers a lot of bases but I know VAS can be tough to ignore.

Edit: lol, I see my friends are also looking at the torch for that different experience.

Personally my vape of choice is the Solo, but I do love variety!
I have found that if you like profoundly good taste and quick dense hits, you could take a look at the DBV or SSV. The SSV is my current favorite desktop unit for its simplicity, ease of use, and incredible performance.
I think the Volcano is usually said to fill thicker bags than the EQ, but IIRC I've read about people closing that gap pretty well (ddave adapter was it?), aside from fill speed, as the Volcano is a quick bastard.
The Plenty is a friggin monster with great flavor and stupid [good] density, but efficiency seems to drop off if you don't pack it tight enough. It's kind of a hog IMO.
I personally hated the Pax, and don't really even want to try the Pax2; but hey, whatever's good for you, I know people who swear by their Pax lol.
The Air might be worth it if you like the portability of it, as well as the interchangeable battery (performance is pretty much identical, maybe a smidgeon more cloudage from the Solo because it has more mass, therefore it stands to reason it's got better heat retention)- but the Solo has 2 batteries where the Air has one, and though I don't mind the colored status LED's, some people might have trouble identifying what level it's at, especially in daylight- so my point here goes to the Solo, but only by a hair.

edit: to go with the other guys, I haven't really used torch vapes.
And I forgot to mention, yes the E-Nano is in fact a beast.

Highly suggest the Hammer, convection and conduction for some real new experiences. I got other vapes but this thing is just perfect as the all in one.

natural farmer said:

I think you should start with flame powered vapes.

A vapman or a Lotus or a Daisy or a Lily or a Vaporgenie or all of them as each offers something different and unique.

If you need to stick to batteries I would suggest waiting for a Grasshopper or go for a Firefly or an Elevape or a Crafty/Mighty.

Frankly I would get rid of your collection for any of those I suggest since you vape mostly alone… Although the EQ should be nice for parties and gatherings…

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I'm assuming you meant you would not get rid of my collection since I vape mostly alone. The flamers look clever, but I do really like the idea of not using butane lighters. I have never had a reliable butane lighter. Do any of the flamers work with regular old Bics?

My problem with the very awesome looking Crafty/Mighty is that they are the most expensive portables and do not have replaceable batteries like the Solo/Air/FireFly (as far as I know). I would likely just get a corded Plenty instead of S and B's portable options.

I have been waiting for the Grasshopper, for what feels like forever. I certainly will purchase one when it is possible for me to do so. However, I want something now. I think I have this "VAS" that I see mentioned here often.

humblesmurph said:

Do any of the flamers work with regular old Bics?

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Vapor Genies work with good ol' cheap lighters. everyone should have one in their quiver IMHO.

humblesmurph said:

I'm assuming you meant you would not get rid of my collection since I vape mostly alone. The flamers look clever, but I do really like the idea of not using butane lighters. I have never had a reliable butane lighter. Do any of the flamers work with regular old Bics?

My problem with the very awesome looking Crafty/Mighty is that they are the most expensive portables and do not have replaceable batteries like the Solo/Air/FireFly (as far as I know). I would likely just get a corded Plenty instead of S and B's portable options.

I have been waiting for the Grasshopper, for what feels like forever. I certainly will purchase one when it is possible for me to do so. However, I want something now. I think I have this "VAS" that I see mentioned here often.

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Looked into the Firewood yet?

More than a few people here have suggested the torch vapes. There's a reason for that. Up to you, but I'd reconsider.

Thank you for the suggestions. No I have not looked at the Firewood before just now, but it does not look very appealing for my needs. I'm bad at the quote function. By "better" I mean better relative to what I have. For example, the EQ is my only whip vape, does the SSV (from what I gather, the "best" whip vape) offer a much better whip vaping experience (bigger clouds/smoother vapor)? I have (erroneously, apparently) compared the E-Nano to the Solo. Does the E-Nano (which ostensibly looks like a corded wooden Solo) offer more efficiency and/or thicker clouds than the Solo?

The Solo is the only vape I have that I "love". The Pax will get gifted/sold if/when I get a Grasshopper or perhaps an Alfa. The MFLB is never going anywhere, it will always be a backup vape for me. I'll keep the EQ unless I get a SSV/Buddah and a Volcano...or a Herbie.

I think the Solo is pretty efficient, if so, then I want a vape that will knock my socks off...regardless of efficiency. If there is a significantly more efficient option than the Solo, I can justify purchasing that vape since I will be able to dose/conserve better and save the cost of the vape over time due to less flower usage.

As of right now, I am definitely getting the Geenie to put my toe in the flame vape waters. The Hammer (totally different vape, I know) would likely be next if I like the Geenie. The E-Nano seems to be the other front runner given the responses I've read so far. I do not have regular access to concentrates (those are dabs no?).

Edit: @Mister G- Fair enough. Like the SSV is the consensus "best" whip vape, is there a consensus "best" Torch vape? Also, is there a consensus "best" torch lighter manufacturer?

The Solo can't finish a bowl in one hit. That is the hugest difference bewtween the Nano, that pure convection power is a whole lot different than the Solo's low temperature convection + radiation. Honestly wouldn't suggest using a bic with your Genie as the filter gets ruined over time. Hammer I find a whole lot more convenient than my Genie because I too have had torch issues, both my Hammer have had torch issues but its been a whole lot more consistent than all the other lighters.

I honestly am not impressed by the Solo, its a great unit that can really deliver but it extracts so slow and uses more herb than I would like.

The EQ just needs a SSV type mod and its performance will be a whole lot better too. I find it to be too airy but from what it seems like you like vapes that don't really hit you based your current four.

paytonpenn said:

The Solo can't finish a bowl in one hit. That is the hugest difference bewtween the Nano, that pure convection power is a whole lot different than the Solo's low temperature convection + radiation. Honestly wouldn't suggest using a bic with your Genie as the filter gets ruined over time. Hammer I find a whole lot more convenient than my Genie because I too have had torch issues, both my Hammer have had torch issues but its been a whole lot more consistent than all the other lighters.

I honestly am not impressed by the Solo, its a great unit that can really deliver but it extracts so slow and uses more herb than I would like.

The EQ just needs a SSV type mod and its performance will be a whole lot better too. I find it to be too airy but from what it seems like you like vapes that don't really hit you based your current four.

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I see. This helps me narrow things down. I definitely want to get vape(s) that "really hit you". Which vapes allow you to finish a bowl in one hit? The Hammer? The E-Nano? The Lotus? Also, you suggest that the Solo uses too much herb, what would be better conservation/dosage options?

Edit: Thanks guys! This forum is quite useful. Decisions: As far as torch vapes, I'm going straight to the Hammer. I will also get an E-Nano and will try to optimize my EQ. That should keep me busy for a while! I Web searched the DDave F/F adapter SSV wand set up for the EQ and couldn't find anything. Any suggestions?

humblesmurph said:

I see. This helps me narrow things down. I definitely want to get vape(s) that "really hit you". Which vapes allow you to finish a bowl in one hit? The Hammer? The E-Nano? The Lotus? Also, you suggest that the Solo uses too much herb, what would be better conservation/dosage options?

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A pure convection device will give you better conservation. Also something with higher temperature options than 410F.

Nano, Underdog (econos for 140), Hammer, Firewood, Lotus, VaporGenie, EQ with a mod, you've got options you just need to narrow things down more as those aren't the only options just some quick examples.

I'd recommend the SSV for a whip unit, and the Vapman for a portable as it is all wood, unlike the Hammer, which looks a bit more fragile, with more parts to it etc - Vapman is a seriously heavy hitter

Not sure if this is appropriate. Been almost three weeks since I posted in this thread. In any event, I'd like to thank everyone (again) for their replies and give a quick update. I purchased an E-Nano.

The E-Nano is as advertised. Bigger clouds than my Solo from smaller amounts of herb. My power dial seems off (only goes up to about 9.8 instead of the indicated 11, but the device works brilliantly. I thought the Solo was convection, or at least largely convection, because my herb never touches the oven...but side by side with the E-Nano, I can tell that the Solo is a conduction vaporizer. Instant convection heat (because the E-Nano is always on) is certainly a new experience for me. Very satisfied.

humblesmurph said:

Not sure if this is appropriate. Been almost three weeks since I posted in this thread. In any event, I'd like to thank everyone (again) for their replies and give a quick update. I purchased an E-Nano.

The E-Nano is as advertised. Bigger clouds than my Solo from smaller amounts of herb. My power dial seems off (only goes up to about 9.8 instead of the indicated 11, but the device works brilliantly. I thought the Solo was convection, or at least largely convection, because my herb never touches the oven...but side by side with the E-Nano, I can tell that the Solo is a conduction vaporizer. Instant convection heat (because the E-Nano is always on) is certainly a new experience for me. Very satisfied.

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Glad to hear you're liking the nano. A very nice vape and I love mine! Hope you now see it is not just a solo in a wooden wrapper. Oh how I wish my solo (or any portable) hit like a nano and was as efficient.

Lots of great tips in the nano thread. Once you get a good feel for it, you may want to poke around for tweaks.

Dial shouldn't go to 11. That's just a Spinal Tap joke. Should go to 10, but as you see that's a decal on there and not always exactly lined up. You can pop the dial off pretty easily and put it back on at a better orientation if you like. Just make sure you have the little teeth lined up on the bottom when you push it back on. If you're topping out at 9.8, you may be as close as you can get to 10. Kind of depends if it clicks off right at 0.