Vaping with a bong: How to prevent combustion?

Hello all!,

First post here, hope to post more. Question, how would you go about preventing combustion with a bong? I'm using a gatorade bong here, the top part of the downstem has a rubber lining (it was a pen) and that plus the MFLB's glass stem makes the whole thing airtight. But every time I tried to use it like that, I would notice my bud began to combust. Obviously, we don't want that. My thought it could be because it's so airtight, pressure begins to build up and causes the bud to ignite at lower temperatures (not sure how to fix that), or perhaps I need to keep releasing the battery (I hold it in), or lastly perhaps it's due to me constantly inhaling.

So I ask you, how would you go about preventing combustion in this situation?

Thanks,
NID

perhaps I need to keep releasing the battery (I hold it in),

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That's the key. You'll likely tend to apply heat longer, using a bong, since you can tolerate bigger hits with water filtration. You're probably pressing your luck, and sometimes getting unlucky. The LB can be a tricky vape, with more variables than the average model. Using with a bong just adds another that you have to account for.

max said:

That's the key. You'll likely tend to apply heat longer, using a bong, since you can tolerate bigger hits with water filtration. You're probably pressing your luck, and sometimes getting unlucky. The LB can be a tricky vape, with more variables than the average model. Using with a bong just adds another that you have to account for.

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So the key is to release the battery every once in a while? Any idea how long I should wait?

-NID

There's no set time, since the variables affect your connection time. A new and fresh battery will be much different than one on its last legs with half a charge left. How you grind matters a lot too. If you grind herb with a good moisture content, you won't get a fine grind with any grinder, and there won't be nearly as much herb in contact with the screen. Grind dry herb to a fine consistency, and your hit, with or without a bong, will be much bigger- a lot more material will be exposed to the heat. I'd say your best bet is to figure out the variables with direct draw. It's easier to judge heat and hit volume that way. Then add in bong use, and keep in mind that trying to get a big bong hit will really put you in danger of combustion. I vape hotter with water because it allows a bigger but still smooth hit, but I'm not using a vape with unregulated temp like the LB.

ultra fine grind is the key to no combustion for mflb imo...some times with ultra fine grind i have forgoten the battery on for some extra secons (anyone who has the mflb knows that seconds might be far further from combustion)and still no combustion...

I think the best way to answer this is more experimenting.

Like max said A LOT of variables are at play here. I would start by releasing the battery part way through the hit, keep practicing until you perfect your technique.

The MFLB can be a good vape, and a great vape once you have mastered it. Luckily for us practice is pretty enjoyable.

By your description I imagine a bong with a MFLB sticking out of it's bowl.
That wouldn't work very well as MFLB need to be facing the lid up to work properly.
MFLB in a bong likes to be flexible (connected with a whip) so you can hold it right and so you can shake it few times while hitting. Bong hits are imo larger than MFLB can do in one unmixed hit.
And you can try hitting it harder and/or release the battery sooner (or preheat less before hitting, sometimes even these 3 secs of preheating can prepare combustion).
Combustion comes from heating too long while pulling too slowly or not at all. No shaking will also makes it more likely.

Sorry to hijack, but does anyone know if combustion is possible with the solo? Is it obvious if you are combusting? This thing just keeps getting vapor off

lauz said:

Sorry to hijack, but does anyone know if combustion is possible with the solo? Is it obvious if you are combusting? This thing just keeps getting vapor off

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I don't think it's possible, even with the highest temperature. I checked Vaporpedia and the highest level can be from 210 C to 235 C, which won't cause combustion. The MFLB is a whole different ball game, since you apply the heat and get it to the approximate temperature you want. The longer you hold the battery in, the longer it heats up. It is possible to hold it down too long and cause combustion, especially with a bong, because there's more filtration than you're used to and the normal sensations you get when the vapor is hot enough are not the same.

I use the Solo at number 7 for the end of every session (well, prior to getting the Sublimator, now it just sits around like a paperweight).

Never ever come close to combusting - you won't even have the ABV go as dark as is possible with other Vaporizers.

hassan said:

I use the Solo at number 7 for the end of every session (well, prior to getting the Sublimator, now it just sits around like a paperweight).

Never ever come close to combusting - you won't even have the ABV go as dark as is possible with other Vaporizers.

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I also use the solo @ no. 7 but my abv usually comes out dark brown near black! Alot darker than the volcano on 9

Interesting.

I suppose the overall humidity of your flowers would also play a role - not to mention how potent the strain you are using is.

regarding solo: no i have never combusted using it. I always start at 4-5 and finish at 6-7 never combusted or even been worried about it. had mine nearly a year now.

regarding the mflb,

a songer inhale will cool the herbs down too. so you can either:

1. take the battery off (a good idea)
2. hit it harder (provided you haven't reached combustion already at this point)

or even a bit of both. it's all about getting your technique down with that thing. once you have that nailed you are golden.