DCup Desktop Vaporizer by NewVape

I reassembled the D-Cup, after soaking it, for more than a full day in ISO.
It was caked.
Everything was dirty.
I set up the PID at 999F.
I can’t really remember, for how long it was set at that temperature, but at least for a couple hours.


Finally, it came unstuck, carefully on top of a bamboo cutting board. Left a smoking ring.

You can tell, by the dust left behind, how caked and dirty, was inside the D-Cup.

Back of the SiC dish. All the caked reclaim, finally burned dry, and broke into charcoal.

Shiny kit, before assembly.

And finally a happy D-Cup, at 555F.
Flavor and Dracarys are back!!!!
Stay vaped and tuned.

After using Obsidian for a while, then going back to SiC, and now returning to Obsidian, it feels like there isnt quite the major flavour increase I thought there was previously. The flavour increasing could well have been just the lower temps I was achieving.

Onto to sapphire next!

Zangano Cruel said:

I reassembled the D-Cup, after soaking it, for more than a full day in ISO.
It was caked.
Everything was dirty.
I set up the PID at 999F.
I can’t really remember, for how long it was set at that temperature, but at least for a couple hours.

Finally, it came unstuck, carefully on top of a bamboo cutting board. Left a smoking ring.

You can tell, by the dust left behind, how caked and dirty, was inside the D-Cup.

Back of the SiC dish. All the caked reclaim, finally burned dry, and broke into charcoal.

Shiny kit, before assembly.

And finally a happy D-Cup, at 555F.
Flavor and Dracarys are back!!!!
Stay vaped and tuned.

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Congrats! Wow, thats a lot of oil from the carb cap on the stand, you really must have gone thru a hell of a lot of dabs that day!

Nice blue colour you got there on the Ti now too

emmdeemo said:

Onto to sapphire next!

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Sapphire is where it's at my friend!

invertedisdead said:

Sapphire is where it's at my friend!

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Thems big words!

What kinda temps do you like for sapphire dabbing?

emmdeemo said:

Thems big words!

What kinda temps do you like for sapphire dabbing?

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Again I don't have a Dcup, but I set my PID to 500-550 for my sapphire insert in my quartz banger. Still dialing things in as I just got a new axial from 710coils, and my MaxVapor controller was just updated with a new tuning setting so I have some testing to do for the first time in a while!

invertedisdead said:

Again I don't have a Dcup, but I set my PID to 500-550 for my sapphire insert in my quartz banger. Still dialing things in as I just got a new axial from 710coils, and my MaxVapor controller was just updated with a new tuning setting so I have some testing to do for the first time in a while!

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Dammit! I forget you dont have a DCup

500/550, ok, so temps arent that different from what I've been playing with. Great stuff.

Nice one, thanks.

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That looked more like my size dab, on the smaller side unless my vapes eyes deceived me. Nice! I see you leave the cap on and leave the can full of vape between hits, like a small balloon. I like that idea as I always feel like I’m in a rush so I don’t miss anything when I dab. I need to slow down just a little and not always take 1 or two huge rips. What temp and how many balls? Do you leave the balls in the cup in between sessions? Thanks.

@Zangano Cruel I’m glad you posted this video! Seeing your Mobius Matrix Clear always makes me smile, and it’s neat to see it rocking a D Cup these days.

started@52 said:

That looked more like my size dab, on the smaller side unless my vapes eyes deceived me. Nice! I see you leave the cap on and leave the can full of vape between hits, like a small balloon. I like that idea as I always feel like I’m in a rush so I don’t miss anything when I dab. I need to slow down just a little and not always take 1 or two huge rips. What temp and how many balls? Do you leave the balls in the cup in between sessions? Thanks.

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I think taking the cap off is a good idea just cos the extra heat it causes leaving it on would cause more loss of dab than taking it off and letting the dab vape into the air, and it would also give you more time between hits

Unless one wants more reclaim on their carb cap, of course

Obviously, each to their own when it comes to method, just talking... talking... talking...

Words n stuff

@Zangano Cruel I am glad it worked for you and everything got a thorough cleaning. I know its a great feeling to finally get unstuck. Now enjoys those dabs!

Sooooo, there is a rev to the DCup heat Post. @cole_dexter on Insta, unaware that it was designed for the DCup was successfully able to use it for the FlowerPot. He also took it upon himself to do some testing and determined that because it is hollow and there is less contact surface/mass, there is an approximately 15-25% reduction in waiting time, both ways. So it heats up quicker and it cools down quicker. Now of course, there are no solid numbers on this. But it checks out as far as we are concerned. Kuddos to this dude.

So this is now a Universal heat Post.

Sapphire terp pearls in the house.

Im honestly preferring to spin the carb cap than use the SiC balls I have, plus the SiC balls arent so easy to spin in the sapphire dish. Getting great results with slowly spinning the cap.

Gonna spend some time today trying out the sapphire terp balls tho.

EDIT: And yes! The sapphire dish arrived waaaaaaaay early. I know some good people, thats for sure!

EDIT 2: So I seem to have a bit of an issue getting terp pearls to spin, either SiC or Sapphire, in the sapphire dish. They seemed way more easy to get spinning on the obsidian. Is it possible that the size of my dabs in conjunction with the sapphire surface is causing a bit of stickiness?

Its a bit of a non issue, as a turn of the carb cap is producing amazing results, just wondering tho.

EDIT 3: Switched to bigger glass so I can see whats happening properly in the dish, it might just be that Im not seeing the pearls stop spinning.

EDIT 4: The flavour difference between SiC/Obsidian and sapphire is NIGHT AND DAY! Cant be over stated, holy crap... @invertedisdead YES YES YES

EDIT 5: SAPPHIRE IS SO EASY TO CLEAN!

emmdeemo said:

Sapphire terp pearls in the house.

Im honestly preferring to spin the carb cap than use the SiC balls I have, plus the SiC balls arent so easy to spin in the sapphire dish. Getting great results with slowly spinning the cap.

Gonna spend some time today trying out the sapphire terp balls tho.

EDIT: And yes! The sapphire dish arrived waaaaaaaay early. I know some good people, thats for sure!

EDIT 2: So I seem to have a bit of an issue getting terp pearls to spin, either SiC or Sapphire, in the sapphire dish. They seemed way more easy to get spinning on the obsidian. Is it possible that the size of my dabs in conjunction with the sapphire surface is causing a bit of stickiness?

Its a bit of a non issue, as a turn of the carb cap is producing amazing results, just wondering tho.

EDIT 3: Switched to bigger glass so I can see whats happening properly in the dish, it might just be that Im not seeing the pearls stop spinning.

EDIT 4: The flavour difference between SiC/Obsidian and sapphire is NIGHT AND DAY! Cant be over stated, holy crap... @invertedisdead YES YES YES

EDIT 5: SAPPHIRE IS SO EASY TO CLEAN!

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Man you are making me really want to try sapphire dish now , glad it got there quickly and safely , now be careful with it haha . Try some smaller terp pearls maybe 4mm-5mm if they are made , I found with them being a bit smaller they will spin easier but of course glass also comes into play a bit and breathe control . Some times they can use a tiny push also with a dab tool as your first hit can coat them a bit making them not spin as freely .

Justpassedu said:

Man you are making me really want to try sapphire dish now , glad it got there quickly and safely , now be careful with it haha . Try some smaller terp pearls maybe 4mm-5mm if they are made , I found with them being a bit smaller they will spin easier but of course glass also comes into play a bit and breathe control . Some times they can use a tiny push also with a dab tool as your first hit can coat them a bit making them not spin as freely .

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With both quartz and SiC terp balls, I can notice a very, very slight increase in throat irritation that is quickly compensated for by me turning the temp down slightly. I expected the same from the sapphire pearls.

I'm not noticing a single trace of that when adding the sapphire terp pearls. And the sapphire dish itself has a completely different smell coming off it after the dab. Way 'cleaner', hard to describe in any other terms, like theres less interference in the smell making it a bit icky. That smell of a very dirty dish, but on a very minor scale. That smell has gone/changed.

And if I'm not mistaken, the sapphire is EASIER to clean than SiC/Obsidian. Just a couple of drops of tap water when the dish is cold, turn it up to 240f or so and all the crud floats to the surface! I'm currently dabbing at 470f, and its fucking lovely, clean up is just a quick wipe.

The sapphire balls seem heavier than all the others I've tried, and they are 5mm, as are the SiC. I'll try 6mm ruby next, just for the hell of it but tbh, I wonder if a 1 hole carb cap and no pearls of any kind would do me just fine? I prefer a slow draw, but I'm still not sure what I prefer yet with the DCup and its different parameters.

Basically, having been on SiC for the last few weeks after using Obsidian for a while, now going back to Obsidian and now quite quickly onto sapphire... the difference between SiC/Obsidian is minimal, the difference between both of those and sapphire seems very clear, pun intended Im pretty sure this isnt just new buyers syndrome but is what invertedisdead was saying writ large. Sapphire is where its at

Sapphire is worth the extra dollar next time you need/want to replace dishes

EDIT: FUCK! 240f clean up, followed up by adding the dab accidentally forgetting to increase the temp first... So essentially a cold temp start dab and ramping up to 520f... Flavour.. like nothing else... holy crap!

emmdeemo said:

Im pretty sure this isnt just new buyers syndrome but is what invertedisdead was saying writ large. Sapphire is where its at

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My dude!
Those smooth and tasty gem hits are the pinnacle!

invertedisdead said:

My dude!
Those smooth and tasty gem hits are the pinnacle!

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Im glad I went through all these 'pointless steps' (totally my phrasing btw) just so I know for myself what is what, but yeah, I finally caught up to you a little at last

470f has definitely gone way up in how smooth it is and how tasty the vapour is.

Im not sure going any lower in temp would be worth it in general (i'll be testing) but the cold start dab I just did was incredible!

emmdeemo said:

Im glad I went through all these 'pointless steps' just so I know for myself what is what, but yeah, I finally caught up to you a little at last

470f has definitely gone way up in how smooth it is and how tasty the vapour is.

Im not sure going any lower in temp would be worth it in general (i'll be testing) but the cold start dab I just did was incredible!

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I’m going to have to try a cold start, was going to last week but forgot and you just reminded me, lol. I always feel like I’m rushing when I dab and a cold start might help. Any tips?

started@52 said:

I’m going to have to try a cold start, was going to last week but forgot and you just reminded me, lol. I always feel like I’m rushing when I dab and a cold start might help. Any tips?

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No tips!

Was the first one I ever did!

Tho I meant to set the top temp as 470f and obviously sped passed it, to 525f, and the controller obviously over shot a bit to start with up to 580 or so, so a slow ramp up to top it definitely wasnt When I noticed, I lowered it back down to 470f.

I accidentally started at 240f so I guess a completely cold start, or at least lower than, 240f, would give you more of a slower ramp up time.

I guess its time to consider a fancy controller now

EDIT: Remove the carbcap between hits to make the oil go further, remove the terp pearls so they dont add extra heat, inhale slowly? 470f

Has anyone found a temp where your dab will only vape with the carb cap on lowering the boiling point while inhaling? Remove cap and temp returns to just under the vaporization point, kinda preserving material in between hits?

started@52 said:

Has anyone found a temp where your dab will only vape with the carb cap on lowering the boiling point while inhaling? Remove cap and temp returns to just under the vaporization point, kinda preserving material in between hits?

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Probably no, as different parts of the dab vape at different temps, and different dabs react to different temps, hence a fancy controller with all manner of presets and temp curves etc.

CAN OF WORMS!

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450f, one sapphire terp pearl, sapphire dish, two hole carb cap, rosin. Carb cap being slowly spun.

Just utterly lovely.

started@52 said:

Has anyone found a temp where your dab will only vape with the carb cap on lowering the boiling point while inhaling? Remove cap and temp returns to just under the vaporization point, kinda preserving material in between hits?

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@started@52
I was experiencing the same thing earlier with the sapphire dish @475f. Cap off dab seems to drop back to dormant. Cap back on and the vapor production instantly returns. I'm usually under the impression that I should rush the dab so not to waste. Tomorrow I will do more slow dab tests.

@emmdeemo I tried my first cold dab. When I started the sapphire dish was 80deg. Pid set to 475f. In 30 sec the dab started melting and the flavor was just amazing. I then leisurely enjoyed the ramp up to 475. It was a great experience that I can't wait to try again.

Top tip #4,890?

If ya dabbing over 500f (I'm doing one hitters at 525f), turn the controller temp down immediately after ya dab trails off, thus keeping it oily for longer and thus much easier to wipe the dish clean, and more time to do it in.

EDIT: Inevitable, had to be done. Trying 420f @invertedisdead Low temps you say? 500 -550? You may as well be combusting

EDIT 2: @started@52 I'm genuinely getting good results at 420f! It was just about acceptable with 1 sapphire ball and it might be controller and glass/draw dependent, but 420f with 3 sapphire pearls was good (I added another 3 afterward, which seemed to increase the vapour production slightly)! Not the thickest of clouds but very visible and tasty, nose tingling. Turned the controller up to 520f after the dab trailed off and nothing extra came out, so its a positive result I'd say. Give it a whirl, report back please!

EDIT 3: Gonna give everything a good clean and try the same things again. Realised I had some draw restrictions added via a caked screw that connects the lid to the main body. Considering that draw restriction was after the dish, shouldnt make too much difference I think....

EDIT 4: Dish temp via ktype digital thermometer with controller set to 420f is cycing between 350 and 410 depending on probe position in the dish. Temp I saw the most was 390f.

I think Im done testing.

420f to 470f I think are my preferred temps with what I have atm (rosin and bho). After a few hits at those temps, no other vapour appears when I turn the controller temps up so I would say thats fully vaped.

Clouds are plentiful enough at those temps, flavour is fantastic, and my lungs are very, very happy.

Sapphire dish is where its at, folks.

Highly recommended and a very worthy purchase!

The test is over.


EDIT: Interesting side effect of these temps... The amount of reclaim I was getting has dropped completely. Does that mean if I turn the temps up, all that reclaim is just tar and unwanted crap? Or maybe the vapour itself is so much cooler so it isnt condensing as quickly when it hits the glass/water.

Hmmmm...