Cannabis Hardware (formerly NewVape) FlowerPot Twax Vaporizer

muunch

hotboxing the cockpit
since you have an EVO I really don't think you are missing out on much at all unless you want to do those double decker loads which will require a good bit of dexterity, I believe.

Not to nit-pick, but I'm interested more in this. I know comparisons are BS blahblah, but having never used an EVO myself, I have always been curious about their perfomance.... but now, since getting a SH, I laugh thinking about an EVO (sorry vapexhale you seem nice). Mind going more into why you think this?

I do agree with your sentiments on the double-deckers, but I believe @ataxian would find just the flower capabilities of the FP to be quite civilized! I only do double-deckers as like a night-cap or silly thing. Not best for flavor and all that. Not to downplay the effects even a bit...
 

SoDelicious

Salted Caramel Ice Cream
Not to nit-pick, but I'm interested more in this. I know comparisons are BS blahblah, but having never used an EVO myself, I have always been curious about their perfomance.... but now, since getting a SH, I laugh thinking about an EVO (sorry vapexhale you seem nice). Mind going more into why you think this?

You are right to about the EVO with the SH in hand. I've had both and I'd choose the SH over the EVO any day, everyday. FLOWERPOT IS #1
 

Justpassedu

Well-Known Member
Evo will not keep up with the Fp , this is from years of experience with using the Evo and owning 3 at one point i liked it so much. Now i am down to 1 Evo that barely gets any use. It's not a bad vape but it is not a powerhouse like the Fp is. They have similar heat up times but the Fp is easier to clean , not finicky with concentrate use , like @Baron23 stated the Evo cannot do double deckers like the Fp. The Fp also has Better temp control , better/quicker extraction , it will milk your glass quicker and is not a big piece of plastic , it will also provide denser hits. While you are still cleaning out your Evo's basket screen i am already done reloading the Fp with its second bowl. The Fp can be kept on all day where as the Evo shuts down in 1hr and needs to be tuned back on. @ataxian if you can use a Evo you for sure can use a Fp , the only thing i'd say you have to be careful of is the head of the unit where the coil is , it is hot , very hot , if you get a proper stand or even use a coffee mug to hold the hot head you will be golden. That is the only part you should avoid touching , just like with a Evo you should not really touch the 18mm male fitting at the end as it gets hot also.
 
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psychonaut

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FWIW, I dont scoff a bit at my crafty when comparing to my FP, they both do a phenominal job at medicating. They are different device and offer different experiences. Overall, I wouldn't trade or sell either of them as they both are top tier vapes IMO! I almost purchased an EVO or Volcano because they're also top tier. I know they do well with both concentrates and flower but the FP was considerably cheaper :huh:

:peace::leaf::2c:
 

muunch

hotboxing the cockpit
ya I was being a bit of a condescending dick with my giggling... Everything has a time&place.

My portables all have a purpose and so does my log!

EVO is just especially relevant since it's another "heavy hitting" desktop. I do feel a smug satisfaction in having purchased my flowerpot nonetheless.

It all depends on one's needs and stuff. For some I'm sure the EVO is easier to use than the FP.
 

Pyr0

Stoned Roses
@Justpassedu You make me want one even more now :p
I just hope I can get a working controller as all these boxes from DHGate turning up faulty/broken isn't exactly filling me with confidence
@NewVape710 & @VapeFiend have they landed in the UK yet?

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EmDeemo

ACCOUNT INACTIVE
Finally got the EVO screens thru the post. Now I understand whats been said about them. Its a shame I cant comprehend things very easily unless they're right in front of me (no visual imagination thanks to the autism).
 

Justpassedu

Well-Known Member
@muunch i don't see how the Evo is easier to use in all honesty. If you are going with a hydratube it would be easier to break glass placing it on and off the top to take hits. If you are not going the Hydratube route than it is similar in ways to fp. The baskets are harder to clean and load than just dumping some flower in the Fp's bowl. Than when using concentrate with the Evo , you have more to break as you are using a small glass tube to load concentrate and insert as opposed to just placing your concentrate into a dabber and going straight into a dish , let alone those glass tubes are a bitch to clean. With the Fp you are basicly just taking the hot head and placing it over your bowl . I just don't want people to think the Evo is easier to use bc it's not , i find there are more steps to using the Evo than the Fp from my experience.

@Pyr0 i am sorry man , it is that good. There must be a place you can find a enail in your parts.
 

muunch

hotboxing the cockpit
I just don't want people to think the Evo is easier to use bc it's not , i find there are more steps to using the Evo than the Fp from my experience.

Cunningham's Law :) ("the best way to get the right answer on the internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer.")

Thank you my good friend. I just like encouraging FP madness
 

DrRishi

Well-Known Member
@Justpassedu You make me want one even more now :p
I just hope I can get a working controller as all these boxes from DHGate turning up faulty/broken isn't exactly filling me with confidence
@NewVape710 & @VapeFiend have they landed in the UK yet?

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If you are prepared to spend a lot more (Euro 299) and get German quality control take a look at the Dabinator.
 

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
Not to nit-pick, but I'm interested more in this. I know comparisons are BS blahblah, but having never used an EVO myself, I have always been curious about their perfomance.... but now, since getting a SH, I laugh thinking about an EVO (sorry vapexhale you seem nice). Mind going more into why you think this?

I do agree with your sentiments on the double-deckers, but I believe @ataxian would find just the flower capabilities of the FP to be quite civilized! I only do double-deckers as like a night-cap or silly thing. Not best for flavor and all that. Not to downplay the effects even a bit...
@muuch
I use a NANO and a EVO for my desktops.
I use a MOD with a GOON tank for ROSIN
I had a few portables that fell apart or tasted so bad I could not handle the ones I tried.
The SOLO is simple but it works (GonG's suck and are LAME as hell)
CANNABIS is the HOLY GRAIL not devices.

VAPORIZER's are a heating element in a case.
AIR PATH is a factor concerning wire's.

Flame's get too hot and you lose the benefit of all the medicine.

I use what I use because I like medicine that does not make me sick!

The FLOWER POT seems cool but it's just a way of heating CANNABIS.

CANNABIS is why were here.
DEVICES we invent.

The FP seems like a decent unit.

I like a BENTLEY but driving a JAGUAR is enough.

This is not an argument only a position.

CANNABIS is CIVILIZED

DEVICES are HOMO-SAPIENS attempt to enjoy this SYMBOLIC PLANT!
HUMAN want's are insatiable (we all-way's want more)!




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EmDeemo

ACCOUNT INACTIVE
Thats great news about Vapefiend. I saw a new video of his today showing off the Milaana, and I noticed he was using what looked like a NewVape Fine Grinder and I thought "Ah ha, they've had a shipment at some point!".

Eagle eyed emmdeemo!
 

Justpassedu

Well-Known Member
@muuch
I use a NANO and a EVO for my desktops.
I use a MOD with a GOON tank for ROSIN
I had a few portables that fell apart or tasted so bad I could not handle the ones I tried.
The SOLO is simple but it works (GonG's suck and are LAME as hell)
CANNABIS is the HOLY GRAIL not devices.

VAPORIZER's are a heating element in a case.
AIR PATH is a factor concerning wire's.

Flame's get too hot and you lose the benefit of all the medicine.

I use what I use because I like medicine that does not make me sick!

The FLOWER POT seems cool but it's just a way of heating CANNABIS.

CANNABIS is why were here.
DEVICES we invent.

The FP seems like a decent unit.

I like a BENTLEY but driving a JAGUAR is enough.

This is not an argument only a position.

CANNABIS is CIVILIZED

DEVICES are HOMO-SAPIENS attempt to enjoy this SYMBOLIC PLANT!
HUMAN want's are insatiable (we all-way's want more)!




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I been talking with you and following your posts for a few years now , I think this would make the perfect vape for you . I know you have medical conditions and only want the best for you'r self and situation and of course what you can afford. I respect that. That's why i recommend it , there are many other vapes out there i own or have tried that i will not recommend but this one is right up your alley. Either way you are good people and just a Homo-Sapien trying to be civilized with the Colas.
 

Alexis

Well-Known Member
Just a small update , i had a buddy by the other day that is com-buster and a very heavy flower smoker. He has been having some medical issues with his son and has not been able to afford any flower so i had him over and blessed him with a nice amount to take home as he has always been a good person.
Respect to you man! You know I was saying to my Mum earlier how many quality, sound and caring people I meet online. And in contrast in the real world I feel completely let down by people.

It just seems like everybody is an asshole who only gives a shit about themselves. I don't really have any good friends to be honest, and I can honestly say that I've always been a far better friend to all of my friends then they have ever been to me.

Just on reflection I mean, I'm really not trying to sound arsey, but I honestly feel let down by the vast majority of people in the "real" world. We are supoosed to help each other (and believe me I do really need help to cope most of the time, instead people just give me shit- judge, misunderstand, make me feel worse), like in the good old days when there was a comminity and family was family!

On this forum alone I have come across so many genuine, caring people with a heart of gold. You all truly help me here thank you!:tup:

Man this thread moves so quick , soon it should overtake every desk top thread on the forum
I had another thought- perhaps we should all have our own individual Flowerpot thread?
Then I can put all my gibbering nonsense into my thread, and you guys can read it when you are bored and have nothing else to do, instead of having to read through my philosophical rantings just to find out the real goss around here!:lol: (Serious point underneath actually, our own threads I mean.)

I might not even grab more concentrates this payday and just get more flower. I can not believe I typed that let alone thought that. The FP has me in shock :whoa:.
This is exactly what I was saying to @ataxian earlier. Ataxian these reports are very suggestive that you may be content with only flower, if you could operate the Flowerpot safely.

And these comments @Danksta are music to my own ears. I have never tried concentrates and won't be as far as I can see. I am purely flower, so I won't be feeling left out in the cold at all seeing you all enjoying your concentrates so much and really maximising the experience.

I can trust that what I have is more than good enough and be perfectly happy with that!:nod:


I get a lot more medicated off of 0.3gr of flower than I was off my dabs
This just made me think that it may be to do with the flower being a "whole plant medicine" that it can rival or surpass the effects of dabs.
And possibly usually a vaporizer is not sophisticated or capable enough of maximising the potential of the flower, which falls shorts of being a complete medicine.

And now the Showerhead has optimised the extraction possibly to a higher level than any vaporizer in present history (not sure what they had in Atlantis ;)).
And Voila! It makes sense anyway, and is very appealing.

I really am so very excited to know that I will join you soon. If I can't tolerate the vaporizer then I will move on and I won't let it get me down, but there are so many variables to play with, and it is possible that I will tolerate the Flowerpot better than some other models I have struggled with, like the Herborizer Ti.

Good day today! Hope is back. It was long gone for a while, going through sheer murder with die off and healing symptoms, nerve aggravation etc.
I truly thought the nightmare would never end. The only thing I was feeling certain about was that I am going to get a Flowerpot no matter what, but deep down hoping that I will also be well enough to enjoy it properly!

Today I feel remarkably better. I finally listed my Aromed in the classifieds. Took me nearly 3 years, but that is promising and then the gateway is practically clear!
Don't know how long it will last but all round I'm feeling a 1000% more positive about life today.

It's uncanny to feel so remarkably different in such a short space of time. But this is the nature of healing, a remarkable thing when it comes right and stays right. Plenty more ups and downs to come I am sure, but at least I can have this check point and joyous taste of relief and wellness.:)
 
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Baron23

Well-Known Member
Not to nit-pick, but I'm interested more in this. I know comparisons are BS blahblah, but having never used an EVO myself, I have always been curious about their perfomance.... but now, since getting a SH, I laugh thinking about an EVO (sorry vapexhale you seem nice). Mind going more into why you think this?

I do agree with your sentiments on the double-deckers, but I believe @ataxian would find just the flower capabilities of the FP to be quite civilized! I only do double-deckers as like a night-cap or silly thing. Not best for flavor and all that. Not to downplay the effects even a bit...

The EVO is a very hard hitting, great extracting, bong like vaporizer.

Yes, I got a FP, but I had an EVO so....no, i really didn't need the FP, but its a hobby as well as a device for medication for me.

@ataxian may or may not find the FP to be civilized.....but I suppose that would depend on if he burned the shit out himself with it or not.

My friend @ataxian is a big boy and can make his own decisions. As his friend, my only role is to merely point out to him the dangers of an exposed coil. If he feels he can handle that, more power to him. But its not clear to me that this is indeed the case.

P.S. - so, after I posted the above, I saw a bunch of posts comparing the EVO unfavorably to the FP and my first thought was "fuck, not again". Look, in almost EVERY thread on this damn board there are a group of fans (I did NOT say fan boy...just fans...people who really like the subject vape) that invariably compliment and defend their vape (which is fine) while at the same time they seem to feel that they must make negative comparisons to just about every other vapes (which is not so fine in my book). I have even seen the same posters do this for a couple of weeks then change their mind and now sing the praises of a new vape while badmouthing the one they just LOVED a week or two ago.

The EVO is a very hard hitting vape, IMO, and aside from the double decker function of the FP, both of them seem to sit in the same vaporizer ecological niche. If you like your FP much better than an EVO, no problem with me at all. But please...I also own an EVO and I also see the clouds I can get out of it. So no, I don't agree that its that so far off of an FP as a home vaporizer that people should run out and get one because otherwise they are missing so much. To me, that's baloney and does start to border on....well, something LOL

As far as @ataxian, like I said, he's a big boy and can make up his own mind. But use of an EVO is, to my mind, absolutely not the equivalent of using an FP for someone with movement disorders and dexterity issues. If he drops his EVO in his lap, perhaps he will break his glass HT and waste a load. If he drops the FP head in his lap he just burnt his balls off.

Ok, later.....I'm getting too wound up in this conversation.
 
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psychonaut

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Company Rep
This just made me think but it may be to do with the flower being a "whole plant medicine" that it can rival or surpass the effects of dabs.
And possibly usually a vaporizer is not sophisticated or capable enough of maximising the potential of the flower, which falls shorts of being a complete medicine.

That's my thought as well. Curiously, if I were to do the math, 0.3gr of flower should be nearly equivalent to 1/12 of a gram of dabs which I never do. I usually turn a gram of concentrate into around 20 dabs, so this may be where the difference in effect is. I haven't done any dabs solo as I really enjoy the modulation from the flower in a double decker, so I just cut back on the flower and dab size to keep tolerance in check. Both together is quite effective medicine!
 

Justpassedu

Well-Known Member
Respect to you man! You know I was saying to my Mum earlier how many quality, sound and caring people I meet online. And in contrast in the real world I feel completely let down by people.

It just seems like everybody is an asshole who only gives a shit about themselves. I don't really have any good friends to be honest, and I can honestly say but I've always been a far better friend to all of my friends then they have ever been to me.

Just on reflection I mean, I'm really not trying to sound arsey, but I honestly feel let down by the vast majority of people in the "real" world. We are supoosed to help each other (and believe me I do really need help to cope most of the time, instead people just give me shit- judge, misunderstand, make me feel worse), like in the good old days when there was a comminity and family was family!

On this forum alone I have come across so many genuine, caring people with a heart of gold. You all truly help me here thank you!:tup:


I had another thought- perhaps we should all have our own individual Flowerpot thread?
Then I can put all my gibbering nonsense into my thread, and you guys can read it when you are bored and have nothing else to do, instead of having to read through my philosophical rantings just to find out the real goss around here!:lol: (Serious point underneath actually, our own threads I mean.)


This is exactly what I was saying to @ataxian earlier. Ataxian these reports are very suggestive that you may be content with only flower, if you could operate the Flowerpot safely.

And these comments @Danksta are music to my own ears. I have never tried concentrates and won't be as far as I can see. I am purely flower, so I won't be feeling left out in the cold at all seeing you all enjoying your concentrates so much and really maximising the experience.

I can trust that what I have is more than good enough and be perfectly happy with that!:nod:



This just made me think that it may be to do with the flower being a "whole plant medicine" that it can rival or surpass the effects of dabs.
And possibly usually a vaporizer is not sophisticated or capable enough of maximising the potential of the flower, which falls shorts of being a complete medicine.

And now the Showerhead has optimised the extraction possibly to a higher level than any vaporizer in present history (not sure what they had in Atlantis ;)).
And Voila! It makes sense anyway, and is very appealing.

I really am so very excited to know that I will join you soon. If I can't tolerate the vaporizer then I will move on and I won't let it get me down, but there are so many variables to play with, and it is possible that I will tolerate the Flowerpot better than some other models I have struggled with, like the Herborizer Ti.

Good day today! Hope is back. It was long gone for a while, going through sheer murder with die off and healing symptoms, nerve aggravation etc.
I truly thought the nightmare would never end. The only thing I was feeling certain about was that I am going to get a Flowerpot no matter what, but deep down hoping that I will also be well enough to enjoy it properly!

Today I feel remarkably better. I finally listed my Aromed in the classifieds. Took me nearly 3 years, but that is promising and then the gateway is practically clear!
Don't know how long it will last but all round I'm feeling a 100% more positive about life today.

It's uncanny to feel so remarkably different in such a short space of time. But this is the nature of healing, a remarkable thing when it comes right and stays right. Plenty more ups and downs to come I am sure, but at least I can have this check points and joyous taste of relief and wellness.:)
I'm with you , it can be a cruel world sometimes , seems these days most only come together when a tragedy happens. I guess as you grow older you really see who your true friends are. I only keep around the good ones these days. People vary state to state , it is such a change traveling from NY to other states , i see how much more kind some can be . There are good ones out there. Always good to have family and keep them close.
 

muunch

hotboxing the cockpit
Look, in almost EVERY thread on this damn board there are a group of fans (I did NOT say fan boy...just fans...people who really like the subject vape) that invariably compliment and defend their vape (which is fine) while at the same time they seem to feel that they must make negative comparisons to just about every other vapes (which is not so fine in my book). I have even seen the same posters do this for a couple of weeks then change their mind and now sing the praises of a new vape while badmouthing the one they just LOVED a week or two ago.

As you said, it happens in every thread. Almost everyone is guilty of it. Of course you want to like what you spent money on.

There's a line between advertising/fanboying or whatever and discussion, yeah, but the merits of a certain device and exactly how and why it's better than other devices is (I feel) a vital part of not only this message board, but the vaping industry itself. (as lame as it sounds). I mean look, we have people designing things in REAL TIME here, based on these words that we are typing on our screens.

there's also a line between objectivity and comfort/liking. it's not always going to be cut and dry to change things... I'm going to open a can of worms (but I don't care really) and say that convection is objectively better than conduction. It's not a matter of preference, or device or the color of your underwear that day or what vape you like best. Some people still prefer for conduction and will argue for it to the death. If you like it, fine, but don't go stating it's the best and it shits on everything else. Like I said, everything has it's merits, but self-awareness is important. I watch the Ghost MV-1 thread with binoculars nowadays but... just saying ! :/

I'm not meaning to turn this into the great vape debate of 2017 - I've never used an evo and don't give a shit about one really, but I am sure there is a larger difference between the two that can be objectively measured (and yes people still vary in their wants/needs, but that doesn't mean the concept of "better" can't exist) and I'm sure more than just the evo being wrapped in plastic and the FP not. The evo has been on the market years now. The showerhead is a few months old. This is the same thing I get confused about when people still jerk over the might and crafty years later. The technology has evolved fast and the only reason people hang onto the old tech is attachment (barring monetary/health reasons of course)

If something is great and at the forefront of tech and whatever, it's more of a disservice not to shout about it from the rooftops than to sit around in silence in fear of being labelled a fanboy lol
 
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