Crafty/Crafty+ by Storz & Bickel

[ambitiouscat321]

Hi everyone. I just got a Crafty vaporizer (first vaporizer for me) and after 2 sessions I am a bit disappointed.
For the sessions I used an (almost) full oven of Lemon Haze. After the sessions I was barely or not high at all, I normally use less stuff in a normal joint and get more high than this. My temperatures were 190°C (374°F) and a boost temp of 200°C (392°F) that I set at the end of the session. Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks

 

[JayDay]

How was the quality of the bud? Were you using the Crafty with 2 bars or less?

Did you use the SnB grinder? Did you use the orange tool to push down the load to pack it tighter?

Well even if you answered no on all of my question, it should still make you abit high. Not "barely or not high at all"

Did your unit even get hot at all? Any blockage or resistance on the mouthpiece?

 

[saint-82]

Would also be interested in this - was sending mine in last week and was hoping to get it back this week - but this does not sound too good - what error did you have?

No error had an issue with the plastic housing on the hu breaking

Still no response from them as of today

 

[ambitiouscat321]

How was the quality of the bud? Were you using the Crafty with 2 bars or less?

Did you use the SnB grinder? Did you use the orange tool to push down the load to pack it tighter?

Well even if you answered no on all of my question, it should still make you abit high. Not "barely or not high at all"

Did your unit even get hot at all? Any blockage or resistance on the mouthpiece?

The quality was great, as usual. (I live in Amsterdam). Crafty was fully charged.
I used my own grinder and did not use the tool to load the chamber. The unit reached without problems the temperatures I set and there was no resistance on the mouthpiece.

 

[Wizsteve]

Hi everyone. I just got a Crafty vaporizer (first vaporizer for me) and after 2 sessions I am a bit disappointed.
For the sessions I used an (almost) full oven of Lemon Haze. After the sessions I was barely or not high at all, I normally use less stuff in a normal joint and get more high than this. My temperatures were 190°C (374°F) and a boost temp of 200°C (392°F) that I set at the end of the session. Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks

Yes those temps are way too low for a haze you going to need to end at max temp however even than you wont reach 220c to get the thcv out of the haze (save your abv make oil )

 

[vapviking]

Hi everyone. I just got a Crafty vaporizer (first vaporizer for me) and after 2 sessions I am a bit disappointed.
For the sessions I used an (almost) full oven of Lemon Haze. After the sessions I was barely or not high at all, I normally use less stuff in a normal joint and get more high than this. My temperatures were 190°C (374°F) and a boost temp of 200°C (392°F) that I set at the end of the session. Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks

Were you getting any clouds at all?
(Dry material, fine grind, snugly packed)
What was color of material after vaping?
Geez,you should be feeling two bowls!

First vaporizer, but have you vaped previously? The high is a little different, maybe for you an "aquired" taste. Give it another try, for a day or so.
Oh, then try hitting on a joint. You may then realize the reasons for the name of this site. Or, if this is extraneous, please ignore...

It's also possible there's an air leak or some other trouble, this is why I'm asking about visual results, cloud & abv color.

 

[ambitiouscat321]

Were you getting any clouds at all?
(Dry material, fine grind, snugly packed)
What was color of material after vaping?
Geez,you should be feeling two bowls!

First vaporizer, but have you vaped previously? The high is a little different, maybe for you an "aquired" taste. Give it another try, for a day or so.
Oh, then try hitting on a joint. You may then realize the reasons for the name of this site. Or, if this is extaneous, please ignore...
It's also possible there's an air leak or some other trouble, this is why I'm asking about visual results, cloud & abv color.

Hi and thanks for your answer.
I did see vapor thru all my session. Material was indeed fine grinded. The material color after vaping was brownish. I never vaped before this!
Maybe Wizsteve is right about the low temp. I'm gonna try a bowl of bubblegum.

P.S.: In which way the high of a joint is different than the one from a vaporizer?

 

[UnshavenFish]

After the sessions I was barely or not high at all, I normally use less stuff in a normal joint and get more high than this.

When you say barely do you mean less of a body high and more of a lighter (functional) feeling, if you have just started vaping there is a transition period (happens with most people) smoking a joint is going to give different effects (although these are the bad things we are trying to avoid) when compared to vaping, those instant effects and throat hit from a joint are something your body/mind has learned to associate with getting/feeling high, they are not needed but it takes a little while for your mind to realise this, really you need to not smoke and just vape for around a week for your body/mind to adjust.

I never vaped before this!

Your not alone, bit of reading but it might help to explain a few things...

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/combustion-gets-you-more-high.1867/#post-123842

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/trying-to-switch-to-vaping.18239/

Anyway welcome to FC, and good luck keep us posted on how you get on.

 

[vapviking]

P.S.: In which way the high of a joint is different than the one from a vaporizer?

Great, great question!
It has given me pause to do up a bowl an contemplate, and to read @UnshavenFish 's thoughtful answer. Nicely put. I'll continue to contemplate, and hope to see some more member insights. Thanks.

and @aldoromu, welcome! we'll keep in mind that this thread is for Crafty talk, and as @UnshavenFish is pointing out, there are lots of other threads to follow. I hope your Crafty is okay and starts performing for you!

 

[Mr. Me2]

Thank you! Well, i don't really care about the stealthiness or battery life, as this is for personal home/may be some time out of home use (that's why i want the portable one), what i do care is the quality and reliability. What i do know is that i want a convection vape.
I know some of you have experience with different types and brands of vaporizers, so thank you for your help!

I'll be in Amsterdam in a month, and will be picking up one, still hesitating, because of these reliability issues. I also considering a firefly(i see that some of you had some experience with it as well, i know its not a firefly thread) but still how would you compare the quality and reliability of firefly with crafty/mighty?

Also i see that there is a 14/18 mm water adapter for the cfrafty/mighty, so it can be used with the bubbler, can you comment on this?

Regarding firefly v. Crafty, I have both so here's my 2 cents... Bottom line is I use my Crafty all the time and barely use my ff anymore.

The ff had its own production issues (don't know if all has been resolved). I'm on my 3rd and had a good experience with customer service. If you have a problem, you can only go direct with them if you buy direct from them. Also, each of my ff's performed differently. It has to do with the heater performance. I describe using it as finicky. You "control" the temperature by holding in the button. But you never know what the actual temp is. It requires stirring (which is a pain and a little messy). The build quality is excellent and cleaning is simple. When you get everything just right, flavor is the best. But that doesn't happen often enough. Short battery life, but replaceable batteries.

The Crafty doesn't taste quite as good, but it's not far off and flavor stays much more consistent. I love the flavor the Crafty puts out. No stirring and easy to use. You know about its battery life. I'm not a fan of its cu cleaning/maintenance and recommend getting at least one extra cu. I've had no problems with my Crafty, but I treat it pretty gingerly.

I describe the Crafty as a utilitarian design and the ff has a better aesthetic. Between the two, for me it's a no brainier - get the Crafty. And if you want a true pure convection vape, consider waiting for a grasshopper.

Hope this helps.

 

[_boo]

I describe the Crafty as a utilitarian design and the ff has a better aesthetic. Between the two, for me it's a no brainier - get the Crafty. And if you want a true pure convection vape, consider waiting for a grasshopper.

Thanks, the grasshopper indeed looks promising.

 

[UniqueCrafty]

This is the temperature of your surroundings. Whatever the ambient temperature of your location the crafty will read that temperature.

...Thank you Crafty works


Thank you!

mod note: Edited to move reply outside of quote

 

[Alan Partridge]

Hi everyone. I just got a Crafty vaporizer (first vaporizer for me) and after 2 sessions I am a bit disappointed.
For the sessions I used an (almost) full oven of Lemon Haze. After the sessions I was barely or not high at all, I normally use less stuff in a normal joint and get more high than this. My temperatures were 190°C (374°F) and a boost temp of 200°C (392°F) that I set at the end of the session. Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks

How are you pulling on it- straight to lung like a bong or mouth then lung like a cig? It works best straight to the lung.

 

[UniqueCrafty]

Hey there again.
Im very happy with my crafty, but need a few more detailed info from you please.

Can i smoke 3 bowls one after the other with friends ?
And what about the perfect temperature to smoke, what do you think ?
How many hits can i expect from one bowl ?

Thanks!

 

[ambitiouscat321]

How are you pulling on it- straight to lung like a bong or mouth then lung like a cig? It works best straight to the lung.

Straight to lung. I guess I'm not used to the "different" high of a vaporizer...

 

[MinnBobber]

Straight to lung. I guess I'm not used to the "different" high of a vaporizer...

...........................................
As others have said, the vape high is different.
A combustion hit is 90% plus combustion by-products (nasty chemicals) while a vape hit is 90% "the good stuff".
Taking in a combustion hit is like hitting your body/brain with a hammer---kind of an emergency response like it's being invaded by all these toxic chemicals. POW
Vaping does not cause these bodily emergency responses so it is not as noticeable and the high also takes a little longer to come thru.

After you get used to vaping you will find the combustion hits nasty and disgusting.
Give it some time.

Try the max temp 410 F and please don't give up as vaping is MUCH better

 

[vapviking]

Can i smoke 3 bowls one after the other with friends ?

As long as you are all consenting adults!
But, seriously, the answer is yes, though it might be good practice to allow maybe 5 minutes in-between for the Crafty to cool a little. If it does overheat, it will shut itself down and not turn on until it's cooled. We try to avoid that!

And what about the perfect temperature to smoke, what do you think ?

Well, that's twice, so I'm going to correct you. Maybe it's a language thing, but "smoking" would be combustion, and you can see how we feel about that! We call it vaping or vaporizing.

Too many variables and preferences for there to be an ideal temperature. Even one person's temp. preferences will vary. This is part of the learning. To begin, the defaults are pretty good!

How many hits can i expect from one bowl ?

Again, lots of variables, but 15 to 20 is not uncommon. High temp.= fewer (though stronger) hits, or lower temp and you can have a session last much longer. Dealer's choice!

 

[UniqueCrafty]

@vapviking Thanks for your fast reply and yes we are all consenting adults
What about the battery charge, vape till the battery die or charge it up before ?
btw, im from Germany i will try my best english

 

[tdriver]

10 Days from pick up to arrival? Southern Europe means outside germany?

from Greece to Germany and back took 10 days.

 

[biohacker]

Straight to lung. I guess I'm not used to the "different" high of a vaporizer...

Use max temp (210c) and take huge hits and hold them for as long as you can. Enjoy fucking combustion

 

[JayDay]

@vapviking Thanks for your fast reply and yes we are all consenting adults
What about the battery charge, vape till the battery die or charge it up before ?
btw, im from Germany i will try my best english

A full charge should accomodate 3 loads. I also do back to backs with the Crafty.
I always charge my crafty after 2 loads from a full battery. Depleting might weaken your battery so dont let your battery die.

 

[Vapinmofo]

Hi everyone. I just got a Crafty vaporizer (first vaporizer for me) and after 2 sessions I am a bit disappointed.
For the sessions I used an (almost) full oven of Lemon Haze. After the sessions I was barely or not high at all, I normally use less stuff in a normal joint and get more high than this. My temperatures were 190°C (374°F) and a boost temp of 200°C (392°F) that I set at the end of the session. Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks

OK first of all an "almost" full oven will not work as well as a full oven or half oven with a "liquid" pad.
it takes a little practice to get it just right but I grind pretty fine a pinky tip size bud and pack it into the oven. You do not want to use too much or pack it too hard because this will reduce the flow of vapor.
MAX temp? I do not agree I find that too hot and irritating to the lung. Personally I use 374°F and a 15 degree boost which I use rarely. I heat the bowl and start hitting the crafty. hit it hard try to get the light to change from green to red. it will take one or two HITS to get it going. The Flavor will be best at this point as well it should have an almost menthol/pinesol sort of flavor thats the terpines. keep hitting it. as you hit it you are moving hot air into the oven this releases the vapor and if you continue to hit it it will continue to produce vapor.
Some people insist that a good hit deserves a COUGH. the act of coughing can give you a rush. so once you have had 5-8-10 good solid hits you can then hit the BOOST this will heat the oven up and the higher temp terpines will be released.

IMHO higher temps may produce a better high. or MAYBE NOT! Depends on you.

I may not be a good example. I toss ABV. I do not like HIGH TEMPS because the Crafty is not the best at cooling the vapor so it can be hot enough to irritate my lungs and make me cough. So I rarely go over 375F.

Like I said hit it hard and continue untill you get at least 5 hits bit as many as 10...
After a while vapor will no longer be produced at 375. Turn it up to get more BUT be prepared for crappier tasting vapor at this point.
Have fun. do not give up HIT IT HARD!!

 

[biohacker]

MAX temp? I do not agree I find that too hot and irritating to the lung.

That's you, he's coming from combustion, what's hot and irritating to you may be a walk in the park to him and furthermore using a simple piece of silicone and bong make it a non-issue - gigantic thick white bong hit toke. Hold that shit in for 10-15 seconds..... soooo smooth! EFFECTS!

I do not like HIGH TEMPS because the Crafty is not the best at cooling the vapor so it can be hot enough to irritate my lungs and make me cough. So I rarely go over 375F.

Once again, that's you and not reflective whatsoever on the Crafty not being the "best at cooling the vapor", because in fact - it's the complete opposite, the Crafty is remarkable at cooling the vapour, this is why it has an actual dedicated proprietary Cooling Unit and it works great as has been reported by members quite frequently. It's a definite pro of this vape and the Mighty. What other portable vape do you think cools the vapour better than the Crafty?

 

[vapviking]

What other portable vape do you think cools the vapour better than the Crafty?

The Mighty, but only by a little bit.

These cool so well that they double as reclaim makers.
People look for ways to mitigate the cooling/condensating by replacing the cooling unit with muzzmods, etc.

 

[biohacker]

Well, what about the Crighty? Crafty with a Mighty CU on top?

I've never seen reclaim like these CU's....it's like pure red oil or something, maybe similar to the Sublimator oil? But yes, I would love to replace the CU with a Muzzmod, and am planning on doing just that!