Pen Imag Plus

StonedPerk

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Copper chamber?! Can you post a pic for us please? PLEASE? :D
I don't think I can post pictures or videos on here yet since I just recently became a member but I will post on my youtube page as soon as they deliver it to my house. I will be posting other videos of me blowing crazy clouds with my firefly and will be reviewing the new seego vhit 2 I just purchased it. if u go to you tube type in Wavy Vaporizers I'm the first video that pops up
 

GEED

Gaseouser
Not that it is too much of a trouble, but this thread disappeared from my "watched thread" list, though I have the "unwatch thread" option on top - hope you guys get alerted, as I HAVE RECEIVED my latest updated IMAG just a few hours ago. Already working on my review, get back later. First impressions are excellent, there will be also criticism, but I can already state, that these are the best ones so far. I have received two devices, one as a compensation for an earlier version, which went faulty. Even though I fixed that fault, the company insisted to replace, no words :) Review still gets unbiased ;)
 

StonedPerk

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Not that it is too much of a trouble, but this thread disappeared from my "watched thread" list, though I have the "unwatch thread" option on top - hope you guys get alerted, as I HAVE RECEIVED my latest updated IMAG just a few hours ago. Already working on my review, get back later. First impressions are excellent, there will be also criticism, but I can already state, that these are the best ones so far. I have received two devices, one as a compensation for an earlier version, which went faulty. Even though I fixed that fault, the company insisted to replace, no words :) Review still gets unbiased ;)
Nice can't wait to see the review. I still haven't received mine but I'm waiting patiently
 
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Shit Snacks

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Mine was attempted delivery but stupid dhl ignores the fact that I checked them to remember my address and just leave things. Will have to sign note on the door for tomorrow delivery
 
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GEED

Gaseouser
Mine was attempted delivery but stupid dhl ignores the fact that I checked them to remember my address and just leave things. Will have to sign note on the door for tomorrow delivery
You got to sign for it in person, they can't just leave it :( I like DHL, especially when something comes with Duty, they have lightning fast customs processing times!
 
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Shit Snacks

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You got to sign for it in person, they can't just leave it :( I like DHL, especially when something comes with Duty, they have lightning fast customs processing times!

Na dhl let's you leave it, done it with my last Imag and other Chinese vapes. If I had to be there in person I'd never get it. Thats why ups sucks noodles
 
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GEED

Gaseouser
Ok, so here we go, as of 2015. February the 19th.
I give you the technical review of the Imag Plus V2 CF model. :)

I will also explain a very easy tweak to maximize the vapor production, this is also going to be a very simple solution for all of you in this thread, who had issues with vapor production - I explain what was going wrong, and how you fix it in two (!) steps :)

Main features are:
Copper and carbon fiber enclosure, tubular ceramic heating element, lock-on mouthpiece, high capacity Li-ion battery, isolated airpath.
First impressions:
As I've acknowledged earlier, I found the decoration of packaging sort of indiscreet with the cannabis leaves printed on it for marketing an obvious purpose for this device (and its buyers :) ). The following image is a good example of Relaxotech's willingness to satisfy any user request. I have been offered plain packaging, resembling a regular, bulk-buy electronic cigar:


The setup remains the same (no more cut out hole for the useless oil-bullet, but tweezers still included), spare mouthpiece, USB/mUSB cable (port is strengthened), tools. What I noticed is a bit confusing, and probably an individual issue, but in two packs I received 4 mouthpieces, and only one included the small ceramic filling inside :D I don't use it anyway :)


Isn't it beautiful?


The enclosure made entirely of copper, I found this one of the most impressive of all updates, the carbon fibre layer around it is not only gorgeous, but does a notable job of heat insulation, which is also a good news for battery life (b.-s doesn't like heat :) ) Tubular ceramic heater provides evenly distributed heat around the entire chamber, not just at the bottom. A filter screen has also been installed, as I found it unremovable, I advise you to hold device upside down and use the brush to clean often to avoid blocking air:


If it is intentional or not, IDK, but electronic updates brought a surprise for me, as lowest temp now indicated with green light, medium temp is blue, and hottest is red. IDGAF, as long as it works :D

Airpath and materials:
In my previous review of older Imags I did mention negligent painting reaching inner wall of enclosure, here you have a polished copper tube enclosure, means no painting at all! Absolutely pure surface for an airpath! A high grade, uncolored polycarbonate tube -as seen below- is encapsulating the heater, the heat insulation and two high temp silicone profile to provide an absolutely safe and restricted airpath. In this update, they also used some cured, uncolored silicone rubber to block off electronics entirely, so the air from outside only gets in contact with copper, HG polycarbonate, and HG silicone. These materials are all safe to health, they withstand with heat up to 250 C°, commonly used in medical applications and food processing. Regardless to all that, I always advise the purifying (burn off) sessions, but I truly not smell, nor taste any robot :)



Possible poor vapor production issue:
Ok, so first I explain what could go wrong when the device is working. Poor vapor production is a result of extra air unintentionally leaking into the draw. This extra air enters a very unfortunate place, between the mouthpiece and top of device - the black ring installed as a closure for heating chamber, also it is a profile to receive the locking nuts on the MP. The air entering here will obviously not pass through the heated substance, carrying no vapor at all, resulting a hardly visible, weak draw.
A simple method to determine where the air is infiltrating, is to cover the two intake holes on the enclosure when trying to draw air. As the airpath is completely sealed off from electronics, and you are blocking the air intake holes, the only way to get "false draw" is at the point where MP attached. If you put some "Blu Tack" around this tiny gap, you should not be able to suck through any air, this confirms the fault!


Simple solution:
We are aiming for an obvious solution to provide maximum insulation of the path of vapor between the MP, and the heating chamber. To achieve such results, follow these two easy steps:
-Screw off the cleanable metal part from the MP.
-Screw it back only about one/one and a half turn. It will be loose, but don't worry about that.
Try to lock on the mouthpiece. If you cannot, it is because the screen obtruding too much, so keep turning about a half turn every time, until MP locks tightly again! Try again to block the intake holes on the side, you should feel now, that no more extra air gets to vaporpath! Now all you draw gets through the heated substance :D
Now having a gap between screen and rest of MP installation, you may also put on a high temp silicone ring to maximize sealing, though it is not necessary.


Conclusion:
For the current price Relaxotech offers a vaporizer with a very good build quality, sophisticated design reflecting user feedbacks, a safe and discreet way to make the most out of your habit. In comparison with other common Chinese vapes on the market, I truly believe that Imag is outstanding for many reasons, but their customer service is something to highlight, as most of these improvements are results of their efforts. They really do try to live up most expectations a user may have, for a very affordable price. Minor issues may arise, but nothing really, what cannot be solved with ease - or through their honorable 1 year warranty policy. Within this price range, I do not currently see anyone offering copper enclosure, carbon fibre insulation, ceramic heating, high grade silicones etc. Believe or not, they are the ONLY manufacturer out of 8 companies I contacted inquiring information about the materials used in airpath of their products, who did provide me SDS (safety data sheets), official laboratory reports without a question, or an excuse, as everyone else did, referring to company secrecy etc. Thumbs up!
 
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KeroZen

Chronic vapaholic
How do you know if it's not just a carbon fiber looking sticker or layer like in most Chinese stuff? Also isn't copper orange? When it's yellow like on your pics it's usually brass.

I still see plenty of plastic in the vapor path, this vape is definitely not for me I think. :\
 
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GEED

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How do you know if it's not just a carbon fiber looking sticker or layer like in most Chinese stuff? Also isn't copper orange? When it's yellow like on your pics it's usually brass.
Both carbon fibre and copper are materials stated to be used by the manufacturer, not me, so your question is "how do you know, they are not lying?". As enclosure is not heated to hundreds of C° I see no difference anyway, color on my pic could be misleading as well, as you also see reflected color of table.
If you click on my image you can also see, that the carbon fibre layer does have a certain thickness, sticker or not, it looks fantastic to me, and also noticeably cooler compared to earlier Imag Plus - hence my conclusion. "Plenty" plastics you see have only one plastic tube in contact with air (air from outside passing between copper enclosure and this plastic tube), which has two post-cured (non-reactive) silicone (rubber family) plugs on top and bottom of it, encapsulating everything else you see on my pic (enclosing the insulation material, and thermocouple), excluding these from airpatrh. As Chinese stuff you mention, have a look at "HEBE/TITAN" vaporizers, or take apart a fancy "Atmos boss" to see, how their solution goes for heat insulation, airpath pollution, that would definitely rearrange your thoughts about Imag+. Though with so much concerns you probably right about this:
this vape is definitely not for me I think. :\
 

StonedPerk

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Right the Titan and Boss are not for me either. Thank you anyways for the break-down it was informative.
Right the Titan and Boss are not for me either. Thank you anyways for the break-down it was informative.
How do you know if it's not just a carbon fiber looking sticker or layer like in most Chinese stuff? Also isn't copper orange? When it's yellow like on your pics it's usually brass.

I still see plenty of plastic in the vapor path, this vape is definitely not for me I think. :\
Just get a firefly if u worried about a company not giving u a healthy vape. FireFly the volcano of portables
 
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Shit Snacks

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Just get a firefly if u worried about a company not giving u a healthy vape. FireFly the volcano of portables

I wouldn't say that, crafty and mighty are, but I also wouldn't really bring up an expensive on demand convection vape when talking about a cheap Chinese conduction pen vape? Kero is well aware of its existence I am sure, and there many safe options out there
 

StonedPerk

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I wouldn't say that, crafty and mighty are, but I also wouldn't really bring up an expensive on demand convection vape when talking about a cheap Chinese conduction pen vape? Kero is well aware of its existence I am sure, and there many safe options out there
Yea that's true but judging by what's out there for that price range and for what it does you can't get a better pen than imag plus especially at that price.

Yea that's true but judging by what's out there for that price range and for what it does you can't get a better pen than imag plus especially at that price.
I have a big question for anybody here who could help. I just received my dhl delivery for imag plus and it's the first time I receive a review test kit for free and I was wondering after I do the video and post on youtube for the company to see and everyone else in the world to see do I send it back to them after I'm done or do I keep it?
 
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GEED

Gaseouser
I have a big question for anybody here who could help. I just received my dhl delivery for imag plus and it's the first time I receive a review test kit for free and I was wondering after I do the video and post on youtube for the company to see and everyone else in the world to see do I send it back to them after I'm done or do I keep it?
No dude, you can't keep it, everybody has to send it to me apparently, when testing is done... Joke - its all yours.
 

StonedPerk

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No dude, you can't keep it, everybody has to send it to me apparently, when testing is done... Joke - its all yours.
LMFAO I swear you had me lol. Should I run burn offs? How do I know if I should run burn offs cause when I brought my FireFly I didn't run any burn off and I just started vaping then again I don't think you can run burn offs on a FF because your inhalation is what gets that coil underneath that glass bowl to work .

No dude, you can't keep it, everybody has to send it to me apparently, when testing is done... Joke - its all yours.
I swear I feel like they sent me some new Jordans it the whole imag plus inside and out smells like a fresh authentic fresh never been worn pair of kamakazis or jordans lol is this what I have to burn off? Cause that doesn't smell like robot it smells like brand new sneakers
 
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Haha, yep, that is an unpleasant stench for others :) Turn on red, and blow air through a few times. What I do I put my juicy tobacco in it, and blow through the vapor a few times, so resin can deposit all over inside, covering everything - though this makes my vape smell like my tobacco, not everybody likes that :)
 

olivianewtonjohn

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LMFAO I swear you had me lol. Should I run burn offs? How do I know if I should run burn offs cause when I brought my FireFly I didn't run any burn off and I just started vaping then again I don't think you can run burn offs on a FF because your inhalation is what gets that coil underneath that glass bowl to work .
I received my beta yesterday. Here is what I did:
Fully charge to green
Run a shit load of burn offs at red setting
Swipe it all with rubbing alcohol, let dry and run a final burn off
Use your beta vape!

I agree with @Gibarian of the chinese vapes this seems very solid. The insulated airpath is great. My biggest negative is it is hungry compared to my arizer air. BUT other than that im pretty happy with it. More tests to be done of course.

EDIT: @Gibarian to make the mouthpiece more solid seal have you thought about gentilly prying up the top metal ring? Leave it maybe a mm higher or so. I havent done it yet but this seems like a better solution than unthreading the screen.
 

StonedPerk

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Haha, yep, that is an unpleasant stench for others :) Turn on red, and blow air through a few times. What I do I put my juicy tobacco in it, and blow through the vapor a few times, so resin can deposit all over inside, covering everything - though this makes my vape smell like my tobacco, not everybody likes that :)
So more less put aromatic pipe tobacco in it and just inhale like I was vaping bug just blow out all the vapor without it ever going down into my lungs?

I received my beta yesterday. Here is what I did:
Fully charge to green
Run a shit load of burn offs at red setting
Swipe it all with rubbing alcohol, let dry and run a final burn off
Use your beta vape!

I agree with @Gibarian of the chinese vapes this seems very solid. The insulated airpath is great. My biggest negative is it is hungry compared to my arizer air. BUT other than that im pretty happy with it. More tests to be done of course.

EDIT: @Gibarian to make the mouthpiece more solid seal have you thought about gentilly prying up the top metal ring? Leave it maybe a mm higher or so. I havent done it yet but this seems like a better solution than unthreading the screen.


I received my beta yesterday. Here is what I did:
Fully charge to green
Run a shit load of burn offs at red setting
Swipe it all with rubbing alcohol, let dry and run a final burn off
Use your beta vape!

I agree with @Gibarian of the chinese vapes this seems very solid. The insulated airpath is great. My biggest negative is it is hungry compared to my arizer air. BUT other than that im pretty happy with it. More tests to be done of course.

EDIT: @Gibarian to make the mouthpiece more solid seal have you thought about gentilly prying up the top metal ring? Leave it maybe a mm higher or so. I havent done it yet but this seems like a better solution than unthreading the screen.
Hungry meaning it vapes your bud super fast?

Haha, yep, that is an unpleasant stench for others :) Turn on red, and blow air through a few times. What I do I put my juicy tobacco in it, and blow through the vapor a few times, so resin can deposit all over inside, covering everything - though this makes my vape smell like my tobacco, not everybody likes that :)
2 questions. It says charge battery for 6 hours the first time using is that really good? Because I know for a fact by the time it reaches 3 hours my battery will be charged and it will show green now do I continue to let it charge even though it's only been maybe 3 hours but it shows green or do I continue charging for the next 3 hours which would be 6 hours even if at 3 hours it showed green for full charge? Second question it says when the device is activated and the battery voltage is lower than 3.3v the indicator light will flash red 8 times does that mean that the battery is dying and I need to recharge? I truely appreciate the input on this help. Highly appreciated. If ya want to whenever ya have time you could go to youtube and type in wavy vaporizers and I'll be the first video. I have a firefly review up and a seego vhit reload 2 review up I know it's a combustion pipe thingy and I have two other video of me blowing crazy monstrous clouds with the firefly.

Haha, yep, that is an unpleasant stench for others :) Turn on red, and blow air through a few times. What I do I put my juicy tobacco in it, and blow through the vapor a few times, so resin can deposit all over inside, covering everything - though this makes my vape smell like my tobacco, not everybody likes that :)[/QUOTE didn't even charge it yet I just took out the package and immediately put it on red and running burn offs now is that bad for the plus? Or am I fine? I mean I don't mind putting it to charge first before I do anything burn offs like I'm doing now but just anxious
 
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olivianewtonjohn

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Hungry meaning it vapes your bud super fast?
If you leave it running it will cook your herb. But hungery as in, more material is needed for desired effect. Now to be fair im comparing it to my $170 arizer air and $200 enano. This is more of a conduction vaporizer and perhaps that comes with the territory. Really curious how efficiency stacks up against other budget vaporizers, against flowermate and the like. It is stealthy, well made, feels good in my hand etc. Them listening to us and adding the silicone to isolate airpath is fantastic; listening to us, more than many US companies IME.
 

Shit Snacks

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Just a heads up @StonedPerk , you can edit previous posts, better to do that than clutter up the thread with back to back posts. (Also dont think you're allowed to self-promote here either)

Yeah hungry as in uses a lot of weed, bc its conduction with a big oven and no spacers.

Meanwhile mine is here, plugged in but no color lit up at all. A dud?
 
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StonedPerk

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If you leave it running it will cook your herb. But hungery as in, more material is needed for desired effect. Now to be fair im comparing it to my $170 arizer air and $200 enano. This is more of a conduction vaporizer and perhaps that comes with the territory. Really curious how efficiency stacks up against other budget vaporizers, against flowermate and the like. It is stealthy, well made, feels good in my hand etc. Them listening to us and adding the silicone to isolate airpath is fantastic; listening to us, more than many US companies IME.
Damn where'd u get a arizer air for 170?

Just a heads up @StonedPerk , you can edit previous posts, better to do that than clutter up the thread with back to back posts. (Also dont think you're allowed to self-promote here either)

Yeah hungry as in uses a lot of weed, bc its conduction with a big oven and no spacers.

Meanwhile mine is here, plugged in but no color lot up at all. A dud?
Didn't know I was self promoting let alone knowing about anything like that on this site. I just made that yt and just started doing this and signed up to Fc and seen people posting reviews on here threw their youtube pages so thought I could tell people to go check it out for themselves. But thx for the heads up
 
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smithwonder

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2 questions. It says charge battery for 6 hours the first time using is that really good? Because I know for a fact by the time it reaches 3 hours my battery will be charged and it will show green now do I continue to let it charge even though it's only been maybe 3 hours but it shows green or do I continue charging for the next 3 hours which would be 6 hours even if at 3 hours it showed green for full charge? Second question it says when the device is activated and the battery voltage is lower than 3.3v the indicator light will flash red 8 times does that mean that the battery is dying and I need to recharge? I truely appreciate the input on this help. Highly appreciated. If ya want to whenever ya have time you could go to youtube and type in wavy vaporizers and I'll be the first video. I have a firefly review up and a seego vhit reload 2 review up I know it's a combustion pipe thingy and I have two other video of me blowing crazy monstrous clouds with the firefly.


When the device is activated and the battery voltage is lower than 3.3v the indicator light will flash red 8 times. This means that the battery is dying and you need to recharge asap.
 

StonedPerk

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When the device is activated and the battery voltage is lower than 3.3v the indicator light will flash red 8 times. This means that the battery is dying and you need to recharge asap.
Ty. Do I charge it the first time for 6 hours like the instructions say or do I just charge until it's a solid color? @shitsnacks are u going to let it charge go 6 hours or u just gonna charge it till its solid green?
 
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Shit Snacks

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Ty. Do I charge it the first time for 6 hours like the instructions say or do I just charge until it's a solid color?

Yeah there are just some rules, a mod will always pop in if you make a mistake, there also a quote function for replying to multiple in one post.

I think you can use it once its solid, its up to you. I dono how big of a difference it'd really make either way.

I guess I just leaving mine to charge, but still no led lit up. When I first plugged in I thought I saw a spark but I dono, might've been a brief white led flash for a second after I unplugged and plugged in again, but haven't seen it again after doing that again and now leaving it plugged in). I guess we'll see if it heats up later....
 

StonedPerk

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Yeah there are just some rules, a mod will always pop in if you make a mistake, there also a quote function for replying to multiple in one post.

I think you can use it once its solid, its up to you. I dono how big of a difference it'd really make either way.

I guess I just leaving mine to charge, but still no led lit up. When I first plugged in I thought I saw a spark but I dono, might've been a brief white led flash for a second after I unplugged and plugged in again, but haven't seen it again after doing that again and now leaving it plugged in). I guess we'll see if it heats up later....
Yea I'm still learning how to use FC. As for that light not lighting which light is supposed to light up? The one at the bottom where u charge it at? Are u gonna let it charge 6 hours like the manual says or u gonna just charge till its a solid color?
 
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