Discontinued The Firefly Vaporizer

[mitchgo61]

What I am requesting is additional specific average values from members for ONE session:
1. Length of time
2. # of draws
3. # stirs or shakes
4. % bowl filled
5. grind level (though this one has been thoroughly discussed)

Can you and others share yours?
About how many times/often do you open lid and stir?
Thanks!

I'm sure you'll agree a successful session is one where retention of this kind of data is simply impossible. But, ok, if I had to guess...

1. Probably takes me a 20-30 minutes to finish off one bowl.
2. Tough to say....more than 20, fewer than 35...maybe? at least 20-25, but i try to get as much as possible out of the material.
3. Wow, I'm a bit OCD, I probably open, stir, break up material slowly, re-compact once every 4 hits. So I probably open the lid 5-6 times a session.
4. not sure what you're asking...I fill it even with the edge of the glass bowl. Tip: the FF does much better with more, not less. You're better off filling it too much than using too little.
5. medium, using fingers...eventually finely ground by the end of the session.

Pressing the heat button my unit glows bright in about 2 seconds glows strong for about 10 seconds then dims a slight amount for another 20 seconds for a total glow time of 30 seconds. Does your unit really take 8 seconds to glow?
I'm with steama on this one, no need to pre-heat. Use your first hit as a set up for the next one. Why waist the battery energy or the vapor? Pressing the heat button and watch the green light go on and off once then the fun starts.

Yes yes yes. Don't pre-heat. Wastes battery life and can cause the first hit to be too hot. Give yourself a four count on the first hit and then start hitting. But holding down the button to warm up the unit without hitting is totally unnecessary. It's convection, so your first hit, unless you potentially over-heat it, is always the "warm-up" hit. The second hit is the first really good hit.

 

[Custom Flower Hardware]

Might need a good clean with iso wipe

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

What I am requesting is additional specific average values from members for ONE session:
1. Length of time
2. # of draws

Hey, can't answer every question but I can help with the first two.

Session length can really vary from person to person, situation to situation. I think that with the way the FF works, you won't be kept waiting too long for it to heat up and start producing vapors. Some days you may want to casually take a few pulls every 15 or 20 minutes so a session could last you an hour or two, and some days you just want to get everything in as fast as possible and you'll be done much faster. On top of that, it also depends on how much you load. A small load will have a "shorter" session time compared to a fully loaded unit. As you get to know it better, you'll be able to shorten the downtime between hits and cut it closer if you want.

As per number of draws, again this is dependent on a few factors. Quality of material, length of draw time, and such. Whereas some members here prefer many short draws, many also enjoy getting as much vapor as they can. Shorter draws will give you more draws, bigger hits will be fewer. Again it's preferential and something that is hard to accurately quantify in words.

I asked the same questions when I started getting into vaping and soon after realized that it's a little hard to make everyone use a vaporizer the exact same way. Hell, it's hard enough to get that done sober

 

[proghead]

I'm sure you'll agree a successful session is one where retention of this kind of data is simply impossible. But, ok, if I had to guess...

1. Probably takes me a 20-30 minutes to finish off one bowl.
2. Tough to say....more than 20, fewer than 35...maybe? at least 20-25, but i try to get as much as possible out of the material.
3. Wow, I'm a bit OCD, I probably open, stir, break up material slowly, re-compact once every 4 hits. So I probably open the lid 5-6 times a session.
4. not sure what you're asking...I fill it even with the edge of the glass bowl. Tip: the FF does much better with more, not less. You're better off filling it too much than using too little.
5. medium, using fingers...eventually finely ground by the end of the session.

Thank you so much. I keep cutting and pasting the best post into a Word document. Yours, Steama and others keep providing excellent responses.

Anyone else's input from practiced members is welcomed by new buyers or those like me waiting for the mail...

 

[b0]

I plunked down the cash and will be receiving today! I had a chance to fondle a fire engine red one and was bedazzled by it's design. I am really interested to see how this compares to my Pax in terms of flavor & efficiency with material. I have the MFLB and think the PAX is better. Very curious to see if this will top the Pax. I'll throw my 2 shekels in soon enough.

Can you post pics of the 3 vapes together to compare size with the FF?

 

[grokit]

Don't be afraid to experiment with the variables, and practice makes perfect !

 

[Volteric]

Can you post pics of the 3 vapes together to compare size with the FF?

Sure thing!

 

[mckeen]

Something else I really like is the little green power light can be seen while using Firefly. You can watch it go red from green and not waste your breath. Nice design feature, in my opinion.

Volteric, I see you take good care of your medincial devices, your Pax looks brand new!

 

[mitchgo61]

Well now I've got the little gasket seal on the outside of the port window coming out on me. Anyone who's re-seated this have any advice on performing this operation?

 

[Volteric]

Wow the full charged battery got a total of about 20 inhalations and it's dead. You should definitely get the extra battery, IMO.

 

[green2brown]

Wow the full charged battery got a total of about 20 inhalations and it's dead. You should definitely get the extra battery, IMO.

With more practice and technique refinement that number should go up. I get about 40 inhalations per charge now which translates to about 5 bowls (takes me about 7-8 hits to finish a bowl on average). A second battery is still a worthwhile purchase though, depending on your needs.

 

[Custom Flower Hardware]

Well now I've got the little gasket seal on the outside of the port window coming out on me. Anyone who's re-seated this have any advice on performing this operation?

I just used a toothpick to push it back in and around and that worked fine. I noticed it unseated when I used too much pressure to clean the window. A hot wipe with a qtip or tissue with light pressure does the trick

Another helpful tip if you have two batteries and no fingernails you can easily remove the battery in the FF with one of the little prongs on the one end of the battery. It works perfectly to pop it out.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Just sitting here tooting on my Solo, admiring how fucking cool the internet is that we're a bunch of strangers around the world talking about an insanely niche product helping each other make it work. It's an easy thing to take for granted since the internet is a "normal thing" now for most of us but still. Getting tips and deals from each other in real-time. Think of all the people that don't even know what they are, and we're discussing the intricacies of taste and technique.

Cool.

 

[grokit]

I just dusted a fully-packed bowl in two monster hits. I lean on the button and draw pretty hard but I have unusual lungs amongst my peers, both currently and when I was combusting. What I have noticed though is that a loosely-packed bowl is more efficient for me anyways. When it's packed looser I get a better draw, and can finish the avb darker. So two good hits regardless, might as well fully extract and use less.

Obviously more testing is required

 

[mitchgo61]

I just used a toothpick to push it back in and around and that worked fine. I noticed it unseated when I used too much pressure to clean the window. A hot wipe with a qtip or tissue with light pressure does the trick

Yeah that was basically what I did. Used a Torx 5 to slightly loosen the three screws and pushed the seal in bit by bit with the plastic toothpick. And then tightened the screws back up. (Another good idea, he said retroactively, is tighten up the screws before cleaning.)

Buying that Torx set was a good use of 14 bucks. Facing the prospect of a weekend without the FF was not pleasant.

 

[Custom Flower Hardware]

Just sitting here tooting on my Solo, admiring how fucking cool the internet is that we're a bunch of strangers around the world talking about an insanely niche product helping each other make it work. It's an easy thing to take for granted since the internet is a "normal thing" now for most of us but still. Getting tips and deals from each other in real-time. Think of all the people that don't even know what they are, and we're discussing the intricacies of taste and technique.

Cool.

haaaaa I was just enjoying a solo session too! spot on my friend with this post!

 

[mckeen]

Well now I've got the little gasket seal on the outside of the port window coming out on me. Anyone who's re-seated this have any advice on performing this operation?

Use the plastic tooth pic that came with Firefly and gentley put it back in place. You need the get the correct tool and tighten those three screws and you should be good to go. I have had this happen twice. After I've tightened the screws, no problem since.

 

[Miwiwa]

Well now I've got the little gasket seal on the outside of the port window coming out on me. Anyone who's re-seated this have any advice on performing this operation?

You will need a T5 torx driver. and maybe good magnifying glasses. the three screws will come out easily, be careful as you remove them, and lift the cover apart, the other side will fall out of position too. no problem, if its expected. clean everything, and put it back together. As I recall, there is a little tab on the bottom port cover, which will allow it to only be re-assembled one way. My o ring started coming out after I cleaned the outside of the portal glass. maybe should not have used ISO on the outside. If you over-tighten the screws ( which is easy to do, you will see the gasket of the inside starting to squeeze out. if this happens, back off the the screw(s) a slight bit, and you're done!...time for a fresh vape break! hope this was helpful.

Wow the full charged battery got a total of about 20 inhalations and it's dead. You should definitely get the extra battery, IMO.

I Agree. Even though 45 minutes isn't that long, It can seem like an eternity while waiting on the blinking blue light With the extra battery AND charger, its generally (so far) a non issue IMO.

WildChild, and Steama, I was wondering how many screens have you needed? what is the main reason that you have needed to replace them? Mine still looks pristine, except for a tiny combustion stain.

 

[mitchgo61]

You will need a T5 torx driver. and maybe good magnifying glasses. the three screws will come out easily, be careful as you remove them, and lift the cover apart, the other side will fall out of position too. no problem, if its expected. clean everything, and put it back together. As I recall, there is a little tab on the bottom port cover, which will allow it to only be re-assembled one way. My o ring started coming out after I cleaned the outside of the portal glass. maybe should not have used ISO on the outside. If you over-tighten the screws ( which is easy to do, you will see the gasket of the inside starting to squeeze out. if this happens, back off the the screw(s) a slight bit, and you're done!...time for a fresh vape break! hope this was helpful.


I Agree. Even though 45 minutes isn't that long, It can seem like an eternity while waiting on the blinking blue light With the extra battery AND charger, its generally (so far) a non issue IMO.

WildChild, and Steama, I was wondering how many screens have you needed? what is the main reason that you have needed to replace them? Mine still looks pristine, except for a tiny combustion stain.

Thanks...luckily I was able to re-seat it using the toothpick and a slightly loosening of the screws (ShayWhiteGrow's approach) rather than having to take the whole thing apart. Good thing too because neither my eyes nor my hands have the skill likely needed to re-configure the whole port assembly. But if it ever comes to that I will revisit your advice.

As for screens...had a brief conversation with Sarah C about this, telling her I didn't know *when* I'd ever need to change the screen because it stayed so clean. She agreed, but gave me some good tips on changing the screen. (Make a dome of the replacement screen, put it in dome side UP, and the edges should now form a small enough circumference so that you can gently push on the dome and slide the edges of the screen under the edges of the glass bowl.)

 

[Volteric]

So my buddy (a combuster) has tried the pax a few times with me. He cruised over took a look at the firefly and I noticed a glint in his eye. He picked the device up like a boss. A few seconds later bam nice robust cloud. Repeat, repeat, repeat. He exclaimed "That's smooth. Tastes great."

He thought it was better than the pax but I'm withholding judgment for now. I can say confidently that the FF def produces cooler vape clouds.

A few minutes later we were locked to the couch with seat belts fastened mesmerized as we journeyed into DisneyNature's film Wings of Life-a beautiful doc about butterflies!

 

[WildChild]

@steama
You are very welcome (screens), my Friend. Always nice to find a good deal on supplies...

@Miwiwa
You are right, one shouldn't have to replace the screen very often. But I am Bipolar with OCD and need to keep my toys pristine! Also wanted to see how a fine mesh worked over the ultrafine one as I had purchased them for my stock Solo stems. I think it improves the airflow and I've had no problem with particulates falling through.

 

[Miwiwa]

Yeah that was basically what I did. Used a Torx 5 to slightly loosen the three screws and pushed the seal in bit by bit with the plastic toothpick. And then tightened the screws back up. (Another good idea, he said retroactively, is tighten up the screws before cleaning.)

Buying that Torx set was a good use of 14 bucks. Facing the prospect of a weekend without the FF was not pleasant.

I tried doing that, but the washer is not round edged, it is square edged. I was having a hard time getting it back in without it rolling. I decided to go "all the way" and take it apart to straighten the o-ring.

 

[Raskin666]

I tried dialing back of my button-pushing. Only preheated for 4 sec before 1st hit. No preheat after that. Only held button for 8 to 10 seconds max per hit. Extraction seemed much more even and I didn't get any charring at all. Still got clouds, but harder to notice during the hit. Overall, seems to perform really well without overdoing the button.

 

[mitchgo61]

I tried doing that, but the washer is not round edged, it is square edged. I was having a hard time getting it back in without it rolling. I decided to go "all the way" and take it apart to straighten the o-ring.

Interesting. I couldn't tell it wasn't completely round...it looked round to me, but it's TINY and again my eyes suck (that old post-45 far-sightedness...). I guess I got lucky in that it seemed to be able to be coaxed back into its seam fairly easily.

I did notice this morning that a tiny section of it seemed not quite all the way in...holding the lid up to the light, I could see a section of the circular window looked straight and not perfectly round. A slight loosening of the screws and it fell back into place, and I was able to re-tighten the screws and have the gasket stay in the groove.

 

[WildChild]

I tried dialing back of my button-pushing. Only preheated for 4 sec before 1st hit. No preheat after that. Only held button for 8 to 10 seconds max per hit. Extraction seemed much more even and I didn't get any charring at all. Still got clouds, but harder to notice during the hit. Overall, seems to perform really well without overdoing the button.

Interesting how you can really customize your experience with the FF. I actually do preheat and take long draws. I'll pulse the button near the end and really slow my draw to get the ABV dark brown. No combustion yet but the unit gets pretty toasty! Probably not the best for battery life but I keep a spare charged.

This little baby continues to impress me each day. Total user control.