Discontinued The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.

[SlideOrDie]

Replacement bottom connector was sent out already!

Thank you so much for the quick help as always!

 

[OF]

Replacement bottom connector was sent out already!

Thank you so much for the quick help as always!

Cool. Is it too late to get a fin down on that connector thread? I can't see that threading in.

Please let us know what the cure is. TIA

OF

 

[BLAZING OG]

Hmmmmm, I am stumped on this one !!
Your battery is fully charged?
Do u have a screen to put on top of the heating rod then load herbs on top of screen??
it should vape conduction style when the herb is around the heating rod.
Sorry I just had a chance to respond to your post.

Blazing and THC - I am in a similar situation.

SR-71 using the white rod at 7.4v works amazing.

However, when I switch to the 3.7v imr 18650 (one that came with persei) and install the 3.7v blue rod, the unit gets hot like its supposed to but I cannot get it to produce any vapor. I get flavor and maybe a extremely light wisp. The herb gets browned/almost burned in some areas (where it contacts the rod) and green/fresh towards the top away from the rod. I have the stainless steel top cap so I dont think its an airflow issue because it knocks me on my ass when I'm using 7.4v/white rod.


EDIT: I also tried Vitolo's method of shaking and stirring between hits, but I still couldn't get any visible vapor.

 

[THC SCIENTIFIC]

Blazing and THC - I am in a similar situation.

SR-71 using the white rod at 7.4v works amazing.

However, when I switch to the 3.7v imr 18650 (one that came with persei) and install the 3.7v blue rod, the unit gets hot like its supposed to but I cannot get it to produce any vapor. I get flavor and maybe a extremely light wisp. The herb gets browned/almost burned in some areas (where it contacts the rod) and green/fresh towards the top away from the rod. I have the stainless steel top cap so I dont think its an airflow issue because it knocks me on my ass when I'm using 7.4v/white rod.


EDIT: I also tried Vitolo's method of shaking and stirring between hits, but I still couldn't get any visible vapor.

Ok you have the AW 18650?

 

[BLAZING OG]

Blazing and THC - I am in a similar situation.

SR-71 using the white rod at 7.4v works amazing.

However, when I switch to the 3.7v imr 18650 (one that came with persei) and install the 3.7v blue rod, the unit gets hot like its supposed to but I cannot get it to produce any vapor. I get flavor and maybe a extremely light wisp. The herb gets browned/almost burned in some areas (where it contacts the rod) and green/fresh towards the top away from the rod. I have the stainless steel top cap so I dont think its an airflow issue because it knocks me on my ass when I'm using 7.4v/white rod.


EDIT: I also tried Vitolo's method of shaking and stirring between hits, but I still couldn't get any visible vapor.

I havent forgotten about you, THC has jumped on to help you out , he might have a better idea than I do at the moment.

 

[Bromeister]

What size die do i need to make 601 threads?

 

[PhotoRider]

What size die do i need to make 601 threads?

Good question, I have not found a set yet.

Thank you sir!

Sorry guys I passed out last night but I just grabbed a couple quick readings with the unit together. I'll take it apart and get more measurements if I need to, but I think these pics show that the bottom of the cart isn't making proper contact with the insulator piece.

Want to trade meters Mine is 1982 vintage. Only the 2nd set of batteries

 

[PhotoRider]

delete...

 

[Vapoholic420]

Hey Blazing OG and THC Scientific. Now,I don't know what is going on, but I haven't even had a chance to mess with the Hercules again yet to try to get that to work, but I went to use my bender and halfway through it the hammer stopped heating up!! And my single top on my Persei keeps staying on and the only way to get it to turn off is to tap the top a few times, but it keeps doing it!! Idk what's wrong with it! What should I do? My Persei is only a few weeks old and my bender is even younger! Thanks guys. Edit: I figured out that the problem with my Hercules was in the black connector adapter for the black sheath, but I think I fixed it bcuz it's actually heating up now!!

yes, you are correct that the blue rod and the longer single battery is needed(imr 18650).
It could be your battery or maybe when you assembled the blue rod,the nut to tighten the rod might of not been as tight and the rod can still move. I would suggest carefully, with out pushing in the rod use your shirt or a rag to really get a grip and tighten nut.
The blue rod doesn't get red hot like the white(7.4v) but it gets burning hot, so something is off or battery is shot.
Try to open herc up and see if the rod is still lined up?

Some people suggest a screen on top of the heat rod and then your herbs.............but at 3.7v (blue rod) you should be able to do herb around the rod(conduction) or screen first then herb (more convection).

 

[PhotoRider]

Hey Blazing OG and THC Scientific. Now,I don't know what is going on, but I haven't even had a chance to mess with the Hercules again yet to try to get that to work, but I went to use my bender and halfway through it the hammer stopped heating up!! And my single top on my Persei keeps staying on and the only way to get it to turn off is to tap the top a few times, but it keeps doing it!! Idk what's wrong with it! What should I do? My Persei is only a few weeks old and my bender is even younger! Thanks guys.

Does the top allow the cart to heat?
Of not, ticket time and return the top for repair. You get a new, latest greatest top. The older tops can blow with the power of the SR-71 (not sure about the hammer). The new design which you get free is much more rebust and can handle the new carts. I will let OG/G explain the history

 

[jpdnkstr]

Just have to chime in and say that my SR-71 is functioning better than expected, taste is spot on with what you put in, once you have your buffer, she just goes and goes......and goes! Right from a cold start too!(I'm not timing, but 5-10sec sometimes!) This is what I was expected G! Easy on that button, once it's up to temp, can't stress this enough, once you get the hang of it, the Herc flies like a dream!

 

[BLAZING OG]

Hey Blazing OG and THC Scientific. Now,I don't know what is going on, but I haven't even had a chance to mess with the Hercules again yet to try to get that to work, but I went to use my bender and halfway through it the hammer stopped heating up!! And my single top on my Persei keeps staying on and the only way to get it to turn off is to tap the top a few times, but it keeps doing it!! Idk what's wrong with it! What should I do? My Persei is only a few weeks old and my bender is even younger! Thanks guys. Edit: I figured out that the problem was in the black connector adapter for the black sheath, but I think I fixed it!

Okay good, sometimes the heat might make the teflon shift a slight. I recommend unscrewing the screw in that black insulator a bit and then re tighten slightly but not as tight as before.

Does your persei have a "Persei" logo under the button on the persei head?
If so then thats most likely the updated circuitry!
The head might be burn out ,If it stays on.

Just have to chime in and say that my SR-71 is functioning better than expected, taste is spot on with what you put in, once you have your buffer, she just goes and goes......and goes! Right from a cold start too!(I'm not timing, but 5-10sec sometimes!) This is what I was expected G! Easy on that button, once it's up to temp, can't stress this enough, once you get the hang of it, the Herc flies like a dream!

I completely agree, I have even had the herc start producing vapor as fast as a couple of seconds by test puffing & a well primed oil coil.

Vape on brotha!

 

[OF]

What size die do i need to make 601 threads?

They basically don't exist. It's not a standard thread. IIRC it's 7mm but the normal pitch is 1.0 mm (510 series threads) and m601 is 1.5 pitch instead? It's too coarse. 510 males will slip in and out of m601 females (that sounds dirtier than it really is.....).

You don't need a die and holder, you need a lathe or screw machine. Sorry for the bad news.

What is it you're trying to do? I've had some good results reworking thread adapters.

OF

 

[PhotoRider]

They basically don't exist. It's not a standard thread. IIRC it's 7mm but the normal pitch is 1.0 mm (510 series threads) and m601 is 1.5 pitch instead? It's too coarse. 510 males will slip in and out of m601 females (that sounds dirtier than it really is.....).

You don't need a die and holder, you need a lathe or screw machine. Sorry for the bad news.

What is it you're trying to do? I've had some good results reworking thread adapters.

OF

So is the same true for 510 threading?

 

[Vapoholic420]

Hey Blazing OG, no my Persei doesn't have "Persei" logo under the button. Neither does my double top! How can I get the updated one's?

Okay good, sometimes the heat might make the teflon shift a slight. I recommend unscrewing the screw in that black insulator a bit and then re tighten slightly but not as tight as before.

Does your persei have a "Persei" logo under the button on the persei head?
If so then thats most likely the updated circuitry!
The head might be burn out ,If it stays on.



I completely agree, I have even had the herc start producing vapor as fast as a couple of seconds by test puffing & a well primed oil coil.

Vape on brotha!

Hey photo rider, the top allows the cart to heat but gets stuck on and won't turn off! I think I'm gonna need the new tops. Especially bcuz I just bought the SR-71 too! Thanks for your help.

Does the top allow the cart to heat?
Of not, ticket time and return the top for repair. You get a new, latest greatest top. The older tops can blow with the power of the SR-71 (not sure about the hammer). The new design which you get free is much more rebust and can handle the new carts. I will let OG/G explain the history

 

[BLAZING OG]

Hey Blazing OG, no my Persei doesn't have "Persei" logo under the button. Neither does my double top! How can I get the updated one's?

I looks like you have the older tops, just do a ticket on w9tech.com or call in , we should be able to get you squared away as quick as possible.
Monday is a holiday so we are closed.
Where did you purchase your persei?

 

[Bromeister]

They basically don't exist. It's not a standard thread. IIRC it's 7mm but the normal pitch is 1.0 mm (510 series threads) and m601 is 1.5 pitch instead? It's too coarse. 510 males will slip in and out of m601 females (that sounds dirtier than it really is.....).

You don't need a die and holder, you need a lathe or screw machine. Sorry for the bad news.

What is it you're trying to do? I've had some good results reworking thread adapters.

OF

I want to make a 601 male to 510 female/ego well adapter thats flush with the persei. Or just a 601 male to 510 female thats flush with the outside tube. The small adapter from planetvape doesn't lock down against the bigger ecig tanks like the protank very well, plus i currently have to daisy chain adapters to get an ego connection. Also because i like things to look pretty.

I was gonna ask a friend who is in CNC classes to make it. Dunno if he can do threads though.

So is the same true for 510 threading?

I've read that 510 threads are 7 x .5mm.

 

[Vapoholic420]

That's the problem. I purchased it from Vapor Active. I was told it would have full warranty. But after I bought it, they told me if I had a problem that I would have to send it in to them and they would have to deal with u guys and then when they get it fixed or whatever, they'll ship it back to me! But what I wanna know is, since it's only about 3 weeks old, could I possibly just deal with u guys instead of them? Or do I still have to buy the warranty, even tho it's still within the first few weeks of me buying it? I woulda bought it directly from u guys but I didn't even know who made it when I got it. But since I got it and found out you guys made it, I ordered my bender, my SR-71, and two CE6 e-juice tanks, plus I pre-ordered the core too, all directly from you guys and I will be continuing to go directly to u guys now. So is it possible that I could deal directly with u for me Persei as well? Please let me know asap. Thank you. Sorry for the long posts.

I looks like you have the older tops, just do a ticket on w9tech.com or call in , we should be able to get you squared away as quick as possible.
Monday is a holiday so we are closed.
Where did you purchase your persei?

 

[OF]

So is the same true for 510 threading?

I don't think so, that is I think you can get taps and dies for those threads. I recall someone a while ago saying where he's got a tap (or die??) but have no hope of recalling those details.

My understanding is it's not at all common, what's termed 'second choice' (not common at all) size, 6 and 8 mm being the preferred ISO size:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_metric_screw_thread

It's fun to note 7*1 is the coarse thread version, but we know that the m601 is still coarser at 7*1.5. I suspect it may have been 'invented' specifically to frustrate end users from doing just what we're trying to?

OF

 

[Caligula]

Good morning gents! Long time Lurker, first time poster. That being said, I wanted to take a second to thank BLAZING OG. I took quite a while on the phone with him, putting together the Hercules that just arrived yesterday and he was very patient with my ineptitude!

I also wanted to post up with an issue though. Has anyone had issues with oil leaking down the ceramic rod and into the lower core chamber? My Hercules wasn't hitting this morning, I opened it up and found that a LOT of my CO2 honey oil was sitting in the lower chamber. Needless to say I was not super stoked to see this. I've got stuff soaking in 99% iso right now, but wanted to hit up the forums to see if its a known issue, user error, etc.

-Joe

 

[OF]

I want to make a 601 male to 510 female/ego well adapter thats flush with the persei. Or just a 601 male to 510 female thats flush with the outside tube.

I was gonna ask a friend who is in CNC classes to make it. Dunno if he can do threads though.

I've read that 510 threads are 7 x .5mm.

Fun idea, but I think you're SOL. There's not enough room for metal there, you'd tap the M601 part to zero thickness in the process. Even if your CNC bud can do threads (and he eventually should be able to) this one's not possible or the guys who make adapters would do it like they to for 18 to 14mm GonG adapters.

If you have both threads, you can see this, a 510 thread 'hits the walls' if you try to put it in your Persei?

I think you'll find 510 threads are 7*1.0 (a more or less standard ISO size, 7*.5 is 'finer than fine' and not even listed on the chart in the link above.

Good luck, fun idea, but I don't think it'll work....or it'd be done by now by some clever guy, if only to save material.

OF

 

[cannaman559]

Good morning gents! Long time Lurker, first time poster. That being said, I wanted to take a second to thank BLAZING OG. I took quite a while on the phone with him, putting together the Hercules that just arrived yesterday and he was very patient with my ineptitude!

I also wanted to post up with an issue though. Has anyone had issues with oil leaking down the ceramic rod and into the lower core chamber? My Hercules wasn't hitting this morning, I opened it up and found that a LOT of my CO2 honey oil was sitting in the lower chamber. Needless to say I was not super stoked to see this. I've got stuff soaking in 99% iso right now, but wanted to hit up the forums to see if its a known issue, user error, etc.

-Joe

yeah it happened to me also http://i.imgur.com/xvgGiHK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ENiogU2.jpg
how do u reclaim your lost goods using iso? im new to this...thanks

 

[BLAZING OG]

That's the problem. I purchased it from Vapor Active. I was told it would have full warranty. But after I bought it, they told me if I had a problem that I would have to send it in to them and they would have to deal with u guys and then when they get it fixed or whatever, they'll ship it back to me! But what I wanna know is, since it's only about 3 weeks old, could I possibly just deal with u guys instead of them? Or do I still have to buy the warranty, even tho it's still within the first few weeks of me buying it? I woulda bought it directly from u guys but I didn't even know who made it when I got it. But since I got it and found out you guys made it, I ordered my bender, my SR-71, and two CE6 e-juice tanks, plus I pre-ordered the core too, all directly from you guys and I will be continuing to go directly to u guys now. So is it possible that I could deal directly with u for me Persei as well? Please let me know asap. Thank you. Sorry for the long posts.

Ahh yes I remember now, I would need to run this by THC Im not sure about the regular 1 year warranty!
What color persei do u have?

Good morning gents! Long time Lurker, first time poster. That being said, I wanted to take a second to thank BLAZING OG. I took quite a while on the phone with him, putting together the Hercules that just arrived yesterday and he was very patient with my ineptitude!

I also wanted to post up with an issue though. Has anyone had issues with oil leaking down the ceramic rod and into the lower core chamber? My Hercules wasn't hitting this morning, I opened it up and found that a LOT of my CO2 honey oil was sitting in the lower chamber. Needless to say I was not super stoked to see this. I've got stuff soaking in 99% iso right now, but wanted to hit up the forums to see if its a known issue, user error, etc.

-Joe

Thanks brotha, I am stoked to have helped you get the herc up and running, it was my pleasure

I havent had any issues leaking at all even with pure gold. Once I didnt start hitting it before the button press and after finishing my draw. I didnt continue to draw to cool oil down, and I got a drop down the rod and into the lower chamber but thats all.
I apologize that that happened ,the herc is powerful and gets very hot.

Did you hold the button down for a long time without drawing?

trying to brainstorm here, let me think about this one.
Possibly try loading less, I did load up a gram at once of pg but pretty much kept the herc going to the point were it was all vaped away.

Kindest regards,
BOG

P.S SO glad you made it to the forum. @Caligula

WELCOME !!!!!!!!!

 

[cannaman559]

Ahh yes I remember now, I would need to run this by THC Im not sure about the regular 1 year warranty!
What color persei do u have?


Thanks brotha, I am stoked to have helped you get the herc up and running, it was my pleasure

I havent had any issues leaking at all even with pure gold. Once I didnt start hitting it before the button press and after finishing my draw. I didnt continue to draw to cool oil down, and I got a drop down the rod and into the lower chamber but thats all.
I apologize that that happened ,the herc is powerful and gets very hot.

Did you hold the button down for a long time without drawing?

trying to brainstorm here, let me think about this one.
Possibly try loading less, I did load up a gram at once of pg but pretty much kept the herc going to the point were it was all vaped away.

Kindest regards,
BOG

P.S SO glad you made it to the forum. @Caligula

WELCOME !!!!!!!!!

i loaded 1g puregold also, i feather the button like suggested (maybe i should work more on pulling to cool after) but im starting to think the red rod would be most friendly to pure gold...lower and slower i guess.

 

[Caligula]

I havent had any issues leaking at all even with pure gold. Once I didnt start hitting it before the button press and after finishing my draw. I didnt continue to draw to cool oil down, and I got a drop down the rod and into the lower chamber but thats all.
I apologize that that happened ,the herc is powerful and gets very hot.

Did you hold the button down for a long time without drawing?

trying to brainstorm here, let me think about this one.
Possibly try loading less, I did load up a gram at once of pg but pretty much kept the herc going to the point were it was all vaped away.

Kindest regards,
BOG

P.S SO glad you made it to the forum. @Caligula

WELCOME !!!!!!!!!

i loaded 1g puregold also, i feather the button like suggested (maybe i should work more on pulling to cool after) but im starting to think the red rod would be most friendly to pure gold...lower and slower i guess.

@BLAZING OG

It is possible that I wasn't hitting it for cool down. Aside from that I didn't mash on the button without drawing through the Herc other than a few 4 second priming pushes. Now here is something interesting... i THOUGHT the bats were fully charged. Apparently the LED light on the recharger lied and they were near dead. This lead me to believe that I needed to add more oil, so I threw another .25g in there on top of the 1g from the initial fill. Perhaps this created an overfill situation? On top of that, could it be possible that my almost dead batteries were heating the oil up enough to run but not vape off? Maybe a combination of these two things?

In any case, I cleaned everything up and recharged the bats. HIt like a champ for a bit but the vapor ran dry. Checked and its no leaking anymore so I added the other .25g of oil. So far so good!

BTW, I noticed you say you "feather" the button in your YT videos, but I cant see your finger. Once the Herc is warmed up, approx how many seconds on/off do you do?

Thanks again!

-Joe


@cannaman559 Did you have leaking issues into your lower core as well? Id say a vast majority of my load (lol) ended up in there over night.