I torched my original cart 5 times, I can't recommend it. My belief is it traps carbon baked containments in very small air path instead of freeing them up. After torching I have .05g I can not clean out over a the original empty weight of the cart. I have been able to clean my cart to the .05g over weight consistently without torching and only using alcohol pumped through the cart. I now have two new carts I do not plan on torching, in a month I should have 20+ g run through one of these carts and be able to see how close to original weight I can clean it.
Discontinued Thermovape Cera
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PhotoRider
Diagnosed with level 11 G.A.S.
Oh it can hurt, let's face it with Murphy hanging around every corner doing extra things has risk. Rsk adds the possibility it can hurt - sometimes by the unexpected. Not saying don't do, but be prepared for a failure if something happens you don't expect - like my lab's huge hairy tail knocking my Persei and Hammer off the end table to my horror - I thought its OK to set it here for a moment, can't hurt
Lucky all is OK. Murphy simled at me for a change.I agree with the contact cleaning point cause wax gets everywhere, but I wouldn't rough it up much because surface area is reduced, but I agree with OF - it doesn't take much for a contact failure at this power. The grey zone inbetween is very small at 5+ amps.
You know me too well, thats exactly what I was going for! Thanks for coming to my defense
I was just saying to other people in general to be careful when doing this because its possible for the wafers to crack using similar techniques. At least from what ive experienced with the revolution
OF
Well-Known Member
You're welcome, but it was more along the lines of adding my own lame opinion to the mix....can't let others have all the fun, you know.
FWIW I don't think you need any defending. Your 'stuff' seems well thought out to me and IMO well expressed and defended as necessary. I do know you, I think, and find your opinions well worth considering.....scary as that might be to you. Please continue to contribute as the occasions present themselves?
OF
PhotoRider
Diagnosed with level 11 G.A.S.
First impression - whoa this thing is sweet!
Also I think it provides some level of protection like a roll of quarters in your hand in case someone tries to take i from you
Also I think it provides some level of protection like a roll of quarters in your hand in case someone tries to take i from you
wapestaprash
New Member
Hello fellow vaporizer enthusiasts! Now I'm sorry for not going through the entire discussion (not even close!) and I also apologize for the inconvenience.
I've had the Thermovape T1 for more than a year now, might be 2 years, it was around the time of release, and been loving it ever since. one of the main issues I have with it is occasionally a tiny piece of stem/herb would fall through the little holes in the bowl, and this would cause some combustion, and is kind of a nuisance to get rid of.
I want to know if this issue is prevalent in the Cera as well; how the cera is better in comparison to the T1, and if this is the absolute best portable vape that you all would recommend in terms of build quality/durability and stealth. Sorry for inconveniencing you all.
Fuck combustion!
I've had the Thermovape T1 for more than a year now, might be 2 years, it was around the time of release, and been loving it ever since. one of the main issues I have with it is occasionally a tiny piece of stem/herb would fall through the little holes in the bowl, and this would cause some combustion, and is kind of a nuisance to get rid of.
I want to know if this issue is prevalent in the Cera as well; how the cera is better in comparison to the T1, and if this is the absolute best portable vape that you all would recommend in terms of build quality/durability and stealth. Sorry for inconveniencing you all.
Fuck combustion!
Quetzalcoatl
DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
Yes, if it's small enough, it has a chance of falling through. It's an improvement on the T1 in pretty much every way, except that the T1 is hard to destroy.
Bob Loblaw
Astralnaut
i would, then dab it. or use cotton, then put said cotton (once fully saturated) in a cloud load. just trust me on this. oh, an use organic only
darkrom
Great Scott!
So it is good "reclaim" not just nasty ass herb stuck to the top of the vape? I'll get a little pile of it going and "dab" it in the cloud lol. I prefer the 2 cap method to cotton. For whatever reason the cotton seems like a bad idea to me even though it should be safe. Just feels weird!
I can't think of any downsides to the 2cap method other than I will make a mess of my ELBS, but I've been meaning to order more soon anyway. These can become my concentrate ELBS.
I can't think of any downsides to the 2cap method other than I will make a mess of my ELBS, but I've been meaning to order more soon anyway. These can become my concentrate ELBS.
nopartofme
Over the falls, in a barrel
I just wipe it up with some bud and vape it in the CLL bowl itself, it works great and lasts a long time.
You know I've been thinking (look out) my Cera made it back home and the first thing I did was start to take it apart, and noticed my self wiggling the top cap off. It was then that I thought you should twist it off cause that would reduce the movement caused to the screw plate... Then it hit me is it possible that the failure of the strap is caused by minute horizontal shifts of the plate due to wiggling the cap off, instead of twisting off where I don't think the plate would move in a circular direction cause it is designed to stay still while you screw the cart in?
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nopartofme
Over the falls, in a barrel
I always twist & pull, and I still got the strap failure. 
Porquiplane
Look Into My Eyes
Ok, question. How the hell do you get the safety pin in??? Its so loose it falls out. where should the o-ring be on it? it doesnt easily "pop in", if it were to pop in it would surely lose the o-ring inside. safety pin = weird. or i = idiot.
Darb
Well-Known Member
That pin goes in the garbage. Serves no purpose for me.
It should stay in place with the battery installed though. Mine does/did.
PhotoRider
Diagnosed with level 11 G.A.S.
Did the same with mine - on the advice of Zeki...
Porquiplane
Look Into My Eyes
Anyone elses Cera LL take a while to heat up? Like 45+ seconds and its rather mild vapor. Very good flavor, works, gets BURNING hot (if you touch near the mouthpiece or by the outside of the cartridge it WILL burn you and leave marks).
PhotoRider
Diagnosed with level 11 G.A.S.
Oh my ceramic disk on my EO cart broke. Guess I screwed up somehow, Hope it can be fixed.
Note to self - get a spare cause I like this thing.
Note to self - get a spare cause I like this thing.
Hey P,
This is my normal drill: I load a 'cold' bowl (btw, I grind medium-fine and allow herb to dry if too moist) I then activate switch (with fresh batts I get full glow in about 8 secs). I continue for another 22 secs (30 secs from start) and begin a 30 sec '3 step' draw (there are numerous postings by OF regarding the 3 step process). I'm now around 60 secs from start with great taste and some pretty hearty vapor. Incidentally, I generally let up on the switch 3-4 secs prior to the end of my draws and do not activate the switch again until approx. 8 seconds prior to my next draw. Works like a champ! Geez, I love this puppy. Hope this helps.
NN
OF
Well-Known Member
Bummer, Bro. It's a pretty easy fix, I've watched it being done. It's OK if it's still retained. Keep using it. Then, when your spare arrives, you can run it down to the bottom, clean it out and mail it in. I bet they rebuild it for free (even if you goofed it up, worst case is $15).
Good luck with it, I too think there's good reason to like the EO cart.....and I suspect we're not alone?
OF
PhotoRider
Diagnosed with level 11 G.A.S.
Yes sure it was me putting on the mouth piece w/o having the wax fully melted in. The pressure broke it probably. Funny, Zeki talked me out of buying another He should have known I'm a gorilla.
On the LL 3 step procedure (searched a while and couldn't find the original post, but found many replies restating each step briefly.
As I understand it:
1. Preheat the LL cart (30 sec or so?)
2. Initial med fast 15 sec draws to pass hot air past the flower, repeat testing the vapor at the end of the draws until it provide a simi-good draw.
3. Vape away.
Don't procrastinate during the steps because loss of heat and battery power...
Anything in the steps I missed?
I believe this is the same as the other electric torch, but glass herb holder I have. Since both are convection?
Any idea how many loads on standard AW 18650 provides?
He should have known I'm a gorilla.On the LL 3 step procedure (searched a while and couldn't find the original post, but found many replies restating each step briefly.
As I understand it:
1. Preheat the LL cart (30 sec or so?)
2. Initial med fast 15 sec draws to pass hot air past the flower, repeat testing the vapor at the end of the draws until it provide a simi-good draw.
3. Vape away.
Don't procrastinate during the steps because loss of heat and battery power...
Anything in the steps I missed?
I believe this is the same as the other electric torch, but glass herb holder I have. Since both are convection?
Any idea how many loads on standard AW 18650 provides?
I'm gonna speculate and say I broke my strap before from dropping the batteries in my Cera when it was upside down. You know the clunk sound. Imagine that 30-40 times a week, for 3 months. It's like hitting the bottom of the plate with a little hammer. Totally unecessary. I now put the battery in while the Cera is horizontal therefore causing no thumps on the plate. And also when changing cores back off the battery a bit too. Less wear and tear. 