Discontinued The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.

[OF]

Sure if you're one of those people who's big on "safety".

Just kiddin', Bob

But if you know what you're doing and the cart isn't overheating, constantly clogging or leaking (neither whatsoever), then what would the problem be?

In no particular order how about:

Bad taste from burnt oil
Shorter cart life, more lost concentrates
The new guys are going to think all they have to do is buy one just like you did.

The last is my pet peeve here, not only do we reward them for doing shallow research, figuring the rest of us for dumb or worse, and wasting their time, money and goods but in extreme cases it could so sour their experience that they go back to blazing.....and since you bring it up, yes I think that means it's less safe?

OF

 

[Atomsk]

Good point on the last bit, OF.

I certainly don't endorse an "Oh, this forum doesn't know wtf they're talking about" mentality.

In my case, I'm not getting a bad taste, if anything, I'm getting flavor I thought would be destroyed at this output. But in terms of shorter cart life, is that because of something inherent within the mechanics of the system, or is it just because it's easier to mess up a cart that way?

I'm not arguing with you that it's potentially dangerous to get ideas in to the heads of newbies that only the experienced should try, I've seen it already in the couple months I've been contributing to the forum and the few years I've just been browsing.

What I am asking, however, is this: is it a bad idea because the less experienced might try it to less success, or is it a bad idea because, mechanically, I'm doing something the system cannot sustain?

 

[ataxian]

You and your tremendous arsenal, ataxian. It's a wonder you find yourself on the forums instead of knocked out on the couch most afternoons.
Lastly, the minimum range is, I believe, lower. That's why people favor 2.4ohm at 3.7v. They last way longer as they're the least volatile. The 5ohm at 7.4v is a little more than double that power, so you might factor around half of a 2.4's lifetime for a 5. Then again it's all about how you treat your carts. If you're feeding them the optimal oil, never overheating them, and generally maintaining them well, you should see a lot of life out of both carts.

Atomsk I am so Happy with my new WAX and FLOWERS.
I have so much energy it's odd that I medicate so heavy and I'm still HYPER!

The TASTE of my new FLOWERS is over the top all time plus you can do Calculus without a calculator while medicating.

I have a brand new 2.4 cart to load and a 5.0 cart.
Time to load them up and set up some double barrel action!

I like both the 2.4 and the 5.0 carts.
My set ups are different between the two however they both are effective!

Can't wait for the HERCULES V2.
Until then life must go on!

 

[Bob Loblaw]

What I am asking, however, is this: is it a bad idea because the less experienced might try it to less success, or is it a bad idea because, mechanically, I'm doing something the system cannot sustain?

it is undeniably bad because the less experienced might attempt, but it is also bad not only for the reasons OF stated, but for the same reasons that we warn against overheating when filling, blown seals and leaks. if you aren't experiencing neither that nor bad flavor, nor care about the life of the cart than as the twins say, "it's just advice, do whatever the fuck you wanna do"

 

[TommydCat]

Uggg.. Just got my order in from D9, but my hammer came dead and a Ego-W cart pulled itself apart in the places it shouldn't when trying to remove the cover.

I'm loving the shit out of the Nibbler X, so I'm nice, calm and collected with patience, but wonder how those got past the QA?

 

[poonman]

Uggg.. Just got my order in from D9, but my hammer came dead and a Ego-W cart pulled itself apart in the places it shouldn't when trying to remove the cover.

I'm loving the shit out of the Nibbler X, so I'm nice, calm and collected with patience, but wonder how those got past the QA?

What do you mean the Hammer came dead ?
it won't work or charge ?

 

[kindbeats]

Uggg.. Just got my order in from D9, but my hammer came dead and a Ego-W cart pulled itself apart in the places it shouldn't when trying to remove the cover.

I'm loving the shit out of the Nibbler X, so I'm nice, calm and collected with patience, but wonder how those got past the QA?

TommydCat, it may be a long shot but did you unscrew the top of the Hammer first? A lot of people forget to take the cap off. Hopefully it's something as silly and easy as that!

 

[SlinginPaint]

Do they still make the Hercules 7.4v for concentrates as well as herbals?

EDIT: Scratch that, saw that we're waiting on the Hercules V2 -

 

[Atomsk]

it is undeniably bad because the less experienced might attempt, but it is also bad not only for the reasons OF stated, but for the same reasons that we warn against overheating when filling, blown seals and leaks. if you aren't experiencing neither that nor bad flavor, nor care about the life of the cart than as the twins say, "it's just advice, do whatever the fuck you wanna do"

I see, so I guess it does diminish cart life then, Bob? Luckily I am 3 for 3 on that; no leaks, good flavor, and this was a cart I previously had to run through with a hot needle in the flue so I didn't care much about it's life-span.

I guess I'm just impressed with how durable / versatile these carts can be if you're careful in all the right places. I'll stick to the script on these new 1.5 and 2.4 ohm carts I just got in today.
For the most part.

 

[ataxian]

TommydCat, it may be a long shot but did you unscrew the top of the Hammer first? A lot of people forget to take the cap off. Hopefully it's something as silly and easy as that!

You helped me big time!
I owe you!
You made BENDERING possible!

 

[ataxian]

I see, so I guess it does diminish cart life then, Bob? Luckily I am 3 for 3 on that; no leaks, good flavor, and this was a cart I previously had to run through with a hot needle in the flue so I didn't care much about it's life-span.

I guess I'm just impressed with how durable / versatile these carts can be if you're careful in all the right places. I'll stick to the script on these new 1.5 and 2.4 ohm carts I just got in today.
For the most part.

WAX in a 2.4 with a AW IMR 3.7V 18650 once dialed in is so nice before FUTURERAMA.
5.0 cart for the finish with 2 x AW IMR 18350's just before sleep!

 

[TommydCat]

Even with the cover on it should still get hot
Multimeter shows an open circuit. This thing should have never left the orbital staging platform.

 

[OF]

Even with the cover on it should still get hot
Multimeter shows an open circuit. This thing should have never left the orbital staging platform.

Too bad, others have made this mistake you know, it was worth a try.

A measured open circuit it pretty damning evidence. It could be a result of the cementing process, not that the reason matters to an end user of course. I'd call for the replacement.....

I'm sure they'll take care of you in their typically excellent manner.....better if there was no need of course.

Good luck.

OF

 

[friedbanana8]

I see, so I guess it does diminish cart life then, Bob? Luckily I am 3 for 3 on that; no leaks, good flavor, and this was a cart I previously had to run through with a hot needle in the flue so I didn't care much about it's life-span.

I guess I'm just impressed with how durable / versatile these carts can be if you're careful in all the right places. I'll stick to the script on these new 1.5 and 2.4 ohm carts I just got in today.
For the most part.

yeah man thats something i remember about the one hit i got out of it, that there was goodd flavor, which isnt what i was getting with the 2.4ohm cart on 3.7v. its cart life is reduced fir the same reason the 5.0ohm cart life is reduced

Of course not. Bigger hits need more oil, this is not magic.

"The lamp that burns twice as bright burns half as long". Good advice in Jesus' day (even well before.....), still good now.

And of course you will, good luck, please do let us know?

TIA

OF

 

[ataxian]

NOOO! at the very least a 4 ohm cart for 7.4. and that'd better be shatter.
look at planetvape.ca on the persei page for ohm to volt ratios
you have been warned, lol

2.4 carts I never go with more than a 3.7 Battery and it works well.
I even have a 3.0 battery setup with a SSL SHORTY TUBE fitted with a 2.4 cart I love it!

The 7.4V set up for the 5.0 carts, BENDER, HERCULES
There are some other combinations I do just to mix it up.
Like my 6.0V setups!

However the 2.4 with the AW IMR 18350 3.7 volts in a SHORTY or a 18650-STANDARD PERSEI TUBE are the daily drivers in my case.

I was a little over medicated when I accidentally put a 2.4 cart on my PERSEI setup with 7.4V and fried a full cart of wax. Trying to recover I heated up the fried cart and dripped 0.6 grams on some flowers that I vaped with the BENDER. This was a major dosage and knocked me out! I needed the rest so it was pleasant.

What I was trying to say even if you mess up sometimes you get lucky by accident!

 

[SlinginPaint]

2.4 carts I never go with more than a 3.7 Battery and it works well.
I even have a 3.0 battery setup with a SSL SHORTY TUBE fitted with a 2.4 cart I love it!


However the 2.4 with the AW IMR 18350 3.7 volts in a SHORTY or a 18650-STANDARD PERSEI TUBE are the daily drivers in my case.

When I grab the Persei I am going to need the SHORTY tube for my stealthy operations.. Cant seem to find any on the D9 website. Anyone?

 

[friedbanana8]

When I grab the Persei I am going to need the SHORTY tube for my stealthy operations.. Cant seem to find any on the D9 website. Anyone?

its called the persei ss kit for super stealth kit and its under the accessories section of the webpage

 

[SlinginPaint]

Thanks, still taking this learning curve at a safe speed hahah

 

[hansdampf]

finally i'm gonna purchase a persei! question about the cartridges. i saw it has 2 5ohm cartridges included. its a big diffenrence about the 5ohm 7.4V and the 2.4ohm 3.7V? i'm not so informed about the batteries..i thougt to buy a 5 pack of 2.4 ohm 3.7v cartridges and a persei ss black. do i need something more to run 2 perseis with the ss?

do i get enough vapor with the 3.7v persei?

news about the herculesV2?

thanks

 

[friedbanana8]

Thanks, still taking this learning curve at a safe speed hahah

as am i my friend, dont be afraid to ask any questions that you may have and i recommend reading this thread because it pretty much has everythign you gotta know to get up to speed.

 

[friedbanana8]

finally i'm gonna purchase a persei! question about the cartridges. i saw it has 2 5ohm cartridges included. its a big diffenrence about the 5ohm 7.4V and the 2.4ohm 3.7V? i'm not so informed about the batteries..i thougt to buy a 5 pack of 2.4 ohm 3.7v cartridges and a persei ss black. do i need something more to run 2 perseis with the ss?

do i get enough vapor with the 3.7v persei?

news about the herculesV2?

thanks

personally i'd throw in some 5.0ohm carts as well. I dont think ill be purchasing too many 2.4ohm carts. i got some decent clouds with it but i couldnt feel the hits so much. The 5.0ohm carts are better in my opinion. The OF said the 5.0ohm carts provide a hit thats twice as strong, i personally feel like its 10 times as strong as the 2.4ohm, that is, the 2.4ohm carts really werent getting me high. Be that as it may, the 5.0ohm carts will give you less hits since it gives stronger hits. Earlier somebody said that the 1.5ohm cart hit 2nd best to the 5.0ohm cart if you're looking for something less strong.

 

[ataxian]

When I grab the Persei I am going to need the SHORTY tube for my stealthy operations.. Cant seem to find any on the D9 website. Anyone?

http://www.planetvape.ca/vaporizers/persei-vaporizer.html

I buy direct from DELTA NINE or Planet Vapes.

I'm in California and their in Canada however I get stuff pretty quick!

 

[hansdampf]

personally i'd throw in some 5.0ohm carts as well. I dont think ill be purchasing too many 2.4ohm carts. i got some decent clouds with it but i couldnt feel the hits so much. The 5.0ohm carts are better in my opinion. The OF said the 5.0ohm carts provide a hit thats twice as strong, i personally feel like its 10 times as strong as the 2.4ohm, that is, the 2.4ohm carts really werent getting me high. Be that as it may, the 5.0ohm carts will give you less hits since it gives stronger hits. Earlier somebody said that the 1.5ohm cart hit 2nd best to the 5.0ohm cart if you're looking for something less strong.

thanks for the answer..

the persei ss runs max with 3.7v? if yes what carts would be bestf for 3.7v?

or do you use the persei only with 7.4v setup?

its a little tricky to see through the forest of possible batterie carts combination..

 

[friedbanana8]

http://www.planetvape.ca/vaporizers/persei-vaporizer.html

I buy direct from DELTA NINE or Planet Vapes.

I'm in California and their in Canada however I get stuff pretty quick!

they also sell some persei product at vaporwarehouse.com which may actually has the hercules 7.4v for herbs and oil for sale there, its where i actually got mine and i know its backed by the original guarantee, i think i remember somebody a few posts back saying they couldnt find one.

 

[ataxian]

personally I'd throw in some 5.0ohm carts as well. I don't think ill be purchasing too many 2.4ohm carts. i got some decent clouds with it but i couldn't feel the hits so much. The 5.0ohm carts are better in my opinion. The OF said the 5.0ohm carts provide a hit that's twice as strong, i personally feel like its 10 times as strong as the 2.4ohm, that is, the 2.4ohm carts really weren't getting me high. Be that as it may, the 5.0ohm carts will give you less hits since it gives stronger hits. Earlier somebody said that the 1.5ohm cart hit 2nd best to the 5.0ohm cart if you're looking for something less strong.

The 5.0 carts I have grown to like.
I like the 2.4 carts because their so efficient.
A few months ago I was such a light weight the 5.0 would put me in a self induced coma.
When you have the 5.0 carts wired they do medicate heavy.
The 2.4 manage my condition so well.
I like to be medicated however clear thinking.
Now the 5.0 carts before bed can and will knock you out.

Pending your medicating with TOP SHELF CONCENTRATES.
Through a water path must be heavenly!

friedbanna8 you being the water path guru have you vaped a 5.0 through water?