TinyMight / TM 2

[Shit Snacks]

This sort of worked lol a little Slymer Live Resin on mesh pad from another vape, in RBT basket and Milaana stem (this is the black glass one that is actually cut down from mountain glass, I have another that is too wide in diameter to fit, as that site is very cheap, but their glass is very varying). I turned up to 10 in session mode for a rip through the inline honeycomb, got a smooth tasty thinner hit, fair since this is a tiny dab!

 

[Tweakz]

This sort of worked lol a little Slymer Live Resin on mesh pad from another vape, in RBT basket and Milaana stem (this is the black glass one that is actually cut down from mountain glass, I have another that is too wide in diameter to fit, as that site is very cheap, but their glass is very varying). I turned up to 10 in session mode for a rip through the inline honeycomb, got a smooth tasty thinner hit, fair since this is a tiny dab!

this is awesome.

 

[Shit Snacks]

 

[Sensory Leaf]

If we're sharing shots...

 

[Tweakz]

damn someone buy and send me TM. i will send you money right now

 

[Brewervapesalot]

@ screens – there seems to be quite some confusion about this topic so I'd like to point out that extra screens are not necessary per se. This is my screen after 5 days of usage and about 20 sessions:

I never use extra screens in front of the cu and hardly do I have to brush the screen of the cu after a session. I will usually brush the walls of the chamber, that's it. However, I also never stir during a session, and that might play a role here. When stirring, extra screens might be necessary to prevent the cu getting dirty too soon.

I prefer to just remove the cooling unit screen and use a larger, course, half inch screen. Less maintenance and cleaning. Also can replace screen without cleaning cooling unit.

 

[Siebter]

Less maintenance and cleaning.

Why, do you feel like my way is a lot of work? For me the default situation seems convenient enough when it comes to cleaning and maintenance. A little brushing after a sesh, tossing the cu in iso once a week or so while treating the stem with some dishwasher soap and hot water. I'm okay with that.

 

[Brewervapesalot]

Why, do you feel like my way is a lot of work? For me the default situation seems convenient enough when it comes to cleaning and maintenance. A little brushing after a sesh, tossing the cu in iso once a week or so while treating the stem with some dishwasher soap and hot water. I'm okay with that.

I dont think either way is a lot of work. It's just that a 1/2 " screen is less work in regard to cleaning. The stock screen is a pain to remove. Compared to cleaning an easily removable 1/2" screen, or just switching out a 1/2 " screen, I prefer the 1/2" screen. The 1/2" can also be found with more course weave, which clogs far less frequently and provides more airflow (although, so long as you're not using a tight weave/fine screen, airflow is very good no matter what)

 

[dzoinp]

I prefer to just remove the cooling unit screen and use a larger, course, half inch screen. Less maintenance and cleaning. Also can replace screen without cleaning cooling unit.

And more air flow too!
Until today was my preference

Why, do you feel like my way is a lot of work?

sorry Siebter,
Regarding TM, I almost always agree with you ... but in this case of screens I don't agree.
There is nothing wrong with the CU screen and I even find the cleanest way to use the TM - pack the stem with just this CU screen. It turns out that in my case, I can only use it like this with you describe it about 5/6 times until you start to decrease the air flow. i always use very fine grind ...and...my greens are sticky!
Then it is also a difficult screen to take and put on the site. I totally disassemble the CU, practically every day! The nuts and washers are completely glued between them, the inside of the CU and the screw (I never unscrew it, it is very tight in that half) are filled with resin and sometimes only with a pick tool does everything come out in the corners.
Yes I already tried "your" cleaning method ... and then ... I disassembled and cleaned everything that was left!
In my case it's not a question of more or less work ... I want to see all the internal parts completely clean ... that's all
Then, without this screen in the CU, it is much easier in every 5/6 sessions, to wipe inside this first half of the CU, without removing it from the stem ... that's how I do it...and brush the screen outside the stem.

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Now I think my screen novel has ended!
A little dremel on the edge of the ring was needed ... It no longer gets stuck in the o ring when removing the stem!
Ideal bowl size size (for me) half bowl works too..
Works perfectly ... keeps the CU much cleaner than the original domed screen... and does not flips

 

[Tweakz]

how easily is CU pulled out of Stem?

 

[Sensory Leaf]

how easily is CU pulled out of Stem?

You can't pull it out, as it sits inside the glass stem (there's nothing to pull on)... But it's not difficult to push it out (from the other end, using a tool ie pencil ect)

 

[Tweakz]

You can't pull it out, as it sits inside the glass stem (there's nothing to pull on)... But it's not difficult to push it out (from the other end, using a tool ie pencil ect)

yes I also meant it, ok is clear now. thanks. If I want to evaporate everything in one hit via stem (long), which mode should I put on? 8-10 immediately? and will it be very hot?

 

[Sensory Leaf]

yes I also meant it, ok is clear now. thanks. If I want to evaporate everything in one hit via stem (long), which mode should I put on? 8-10 immediately? and will it be very hot?

There's far to many variables for me to say, you'll have to play around with; bowl size, how tightly it's packed, how hard you draw, your temp setting and of course; the quality of your herb...

One hit extraction is certainly possible though, and yes, the vapour (with a one hit extraction) is going to be warm

 

[Tweakz]

There's far to many variables for me to say, you'll have to play around with; bowl size, how tightly it's packed, how hard you draw, your temp setting and of course; the quality of your herb...

One hit extraction is certainly possible though, and yes, the vapour (with a one hit extraction) is going to be warm

I still can’t even order ....., but I already understand that I will like it. I like to hit hard. medium or strong draw, and also evaporate the entire bowl for a maximum of 3 hits.

 

[LabPong]

I still can’t even order ....., but I already understand that I will like it. I like to hit hard. medium or strong draw, and also evaporate the entire bowl for a maximum of 3 hits.

Or you can extract the bowl in 1 hit too! You can make the bowl as small as you need..no problem.

This sort of worked lol a little Slymer Live Resin on mesh pad from another vape, in RBT basket and Milaana stem (this is the black glass one that is actually cut down from mountain glass, I have another that is too wide in diameter to fit, as that site is very cheap, but their glass is very varying). I turned up to 10 in session mode for a rip through the inline honeycomb, got a smooth tasty thinner hit, fair since this is a tiny dab!

Snacks....have you tried lowering the bowl in the stem a bit? You might get a different taste profile....I put my screen for flower and concentrate pads in so there is at least a good 1cm or 3/8th in space to the end of the stem.

I like having the load further away from the heater in the glass....more glass walls in the oven area usually helps for taste and smoothness. Some may not be able to tell a diff though.

 

[Shit Snacks]

Snacks....have you tried lowering the bowl in the stem a bit? You might get a different taste profile....I put my screen for flower and concentrate pads in so there is at least a good 1cm or 3/8th in space to the end of the stem.

I like having the load further away from the heater in the glass....more glass walls in the oven area usually helps for taste and smoothness. Some may not be able to tell a diff though.

Yes, but it won't fit there in this black stem, only at the very tip. All the glass stems have varying sizes, the clear glass Milaana stem I was using as seen in other pics, does have the screen lower (it is also a finer mesh, the one from Delta3D, not too fine though, than the old RBT baskets which are pretty course mesh and very rigid secure baskets) As it was just mentioned there are a lot of variables, so many different ways to load and hit, but they all work very well!

 

[Siebter]

If I want to evaporate everything in one hit via stem (long), which mode should I put on? 8-10 immediately? and will it be very hot?

That would be a bit hotter, yes, although not to the point where you burn your lips or throat.

If you microdose (~.05g) a 6 or 7 on the dial and a *long* draw will let you finish the load in one hit easily without letting the vapor become too hot. But I also agree: there are many variables.

 

[karec]

Funny that was one of the things i think i notice is from 2 buzz down i feel a little downside to the power....
Keeping an eye on this too...
Cheers

So today i went for a walk with my dog, before leaving i checked the status of battery 3buzz, yesterday i use it a few times but still had battery so i went, i immediately noticed a lack of power after the 1st draw, another draw a little longer and hard and still wisp... i raise it up from 4,5 to 5,5 and a bit more but nothing near what im used to, recheck bat status and had 2buzz so i turned it off. After getting back home i change the bat lowered to 4.5 and back to normality 2draws and another at 6 and finish the sesh.
So yes i noticed a little downside to the power from 2buzz down, the bat has around 3.5V according to the external charger.
My normal use is on demand 5/6draws@4.5/5 + 2draws@5.5/6 7m avg. and i can push 5 sesh before i notice this lack of power, it still can be used if i turn from 4.5 to 7 and finish the sesh and need to replace the battery.
With the external charger i kept track of the battery voltage, a fresh sony vtc6 has 4,1V every ~7m sesh is spending 1V and below 3.6V i start to notice the getting weaker.
Cheers

 

[Siebter]

@karec – Hmmmm, interesting. I still don't see any decrease in power, also wonder if a decrease in power wouldn't result in a *slower* heat up (as opposed to a lower heat in general), since there's a control that makes the temp indicator vibrate once set temps are reached. It seems puzzling that it vibrates although it's still below temp (edit: or did you use it in session mode?).

You write you were on a walk when you vaped, maybe the outdoor temperatures had an impact? Just speculating here of course.

 

[Tweakz]

So today i went for a walk with my dog, before leaving i checked the status of battery 3buzz, yesterday i use it a few times but still had battery so i went, i immediately noticed a lack of power after the 1st draw, another draw a little longer and hard and still wisp... i raise it up from 4,5 to 5,5 and a bit more but nothing near what im used to, recheck bat status and had 2buzz so i turned it off. After getting back home i change the bat lowered to 4.5 and back to normality 2draws and another at 6 and finish the sesh.
So yes i noticed a little downside to the power from 2buzz down, the bat has around 3.5V according to the external charger.
My normal use is on demand 5/6draws@4.5/5 + 2draws@5.5/6 7m avg. and i can push 5 sesh before i notice this lack of power, it still can be used if i turn from 4.5 to 7 and finish the sesh and need to replace the battery.
With the external charger i kept track of the battery voltage, a fresh sony vtc6 has 4,1V every ~7m sesh is spending 1V and below 3.6V i start to notice the getting weaker.
Cheers

I’m sure that a decrease in productivity could most likely be due to outdoor temperatures. but I think this is not significant?

 

[Siebter]

but I think this is not significant?

It might, depending on the temperatures. I'm still speculating, but even if the device will give the power as ot should, wind and chilly temps could cool down the stem and cooling unit well below room temperature, which might have an impact on the vapor production (lower temps in chamber, more condensation in the cu...).

 

[TommyDee]

What you are seeing is the discharge curve. Li-ion will hold 4.2V at the start and quickly settle in the 3.7-3.6V range where it will linger and fall off quickly at the end of the charge. Having a high current draw really tanks the output voltage, raising the current draw which the cell cannot deliver. Hence, reduced performance.

The status buzz is only measuring resting voltage. This is much higher than voltage under load.

 

[Siebter]

The status buzz is only measuring resting voltage. This is much higher than voltage under load.

I was referring to the temp indicator buzz, not the battery status buzz (Edit: oops, sorry, you were obviously referring to karec...).

Also what you describe is actually typical for a mechanical / unregulated device (Nomad, Milaana etc.) that will simply deliver the power that the battery has. A regulated device will (or should) balance the remaining power to the power set by the user.

 

[karec]

I still don't see any decrease in power, also wonder if a decrease in power wouldn't result in a *slower* heat up (as opposed to a lower heat in general)

Good point didnt think of that but i dont have the knowledge to say

I’m sure that a decrease in productivity could most likely be due to outdoor temperatures. but I think this is not significant?

Im in Lisbon now is around +15C 16.25PM, already vaped outside with +10C 23.00PM and didnt notice anything like this so i have to tend to disagree, at least with these temp, im sure if you are out with 0C and below it will have impact on performance

What you are seeing is the discharge curve. Li-ion will hold 4.2V at the start and quickly settle in the 3.7-3.6V range where it will linger and fall off quickly at the end of the charge. Having a high current draw really tanks the output voltage, raising the current draw which the cell cannot deliver. Hence, reduced performance.

The status buzz is only measuring resting voltage. This is much higher than voltage under load.

So this means that what im noticing reduced performance under 3,6V? If so make sense...

Thx for the brainstorm, always learning
Cheers

 

[Siebter]

So this means that what im noticing reduced performance under 3,6V? If so make sense...

It would for a unregulated device, but the TM is regulated – we wouldn't even be able to set different temps if there wasn't a balancer that regulates the voltage.