Firewood Vaporizer

flammy

flammy

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Magistra said:
thanks for all that. I’m still perfecting my technique with convection and it feels natural to me to take a puff and inhale it, like a cigarette. I’m really struggling (with the Mi2, until I get my FW 6) to do a long, slow pull.

Is the shut off to stop pulling too hard that you create combustion? I have had a couple of combustion’s in my Milaana and feel like I’m struggling to extract fully and evenly.
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I'm not exactly sure on the reasoning behind the auto shutoff as I am not privy to those details and haven't asked Marc directly. That said, if I had to guess, the shutoff that is triggered when no draw is detected is most likely a safety mechanism and also to prevent combustion since there is no airflow to help move the heat away from the load.

It would seem that the overdraw detection is meant to help prevent the draw from overpowering the heater and thus forcing the heater to work harder than it should since the heater is dynamic and will adjust power depending on the draw speed. Again, this is just my guess.

To be clear, I don't view these features as disadvantages. Rather I view them as conveniences. This is a regulated device and this is just one of the ways it helps us stay in our lane when using. I mentioned this only to set expectations. If you got the FW6 expecting a Milaana/Tubo experience, you might be a little disapointed simply because of the hardware limitations. It's not meant to be the same IMO. That said, if you get the FW6 expecting a Firewood experience that has been refined for OTG use, then you'll be ecstatic.

This is OT but with your Milaana, you may want to experiment with increasing your draw speed a little. On full convection unregulated devices, the draw speed is used to regulate the heater and with a heater as powerful as the Milaana, you need to be careful with not drawing too slow. Pulsating the button can help tremendously as well. This said, the FW6 does not present the same usage challenges since it is regulated.
 
Easywider

Easywider

Simple is the way
flammy said:
I'm a big fan of the simpler rectangular form factor and fully retractable stem on the FW6. I feel like the FW6 can fully extract within 6-7 hits. That said, you have to keep in mind that the FW6 has limitations due to its more pocketable form factor. For one, the ID of the stem is significantly smaller than most of other vapes and due to that, a longer draw duration yields better results in my experience. As with the FW5, the draw speed on the FW6 is limited. Your draw speed needs to be within a certain range otherwise the draw detection will shut off the heater. That said, the draw detection is much more forgiving on the FW6 than it is on the FW5. I can trigger the overdraw on FW5 at least once during a session with it. I've triggered the overdraw on the FW6 maybe a handful of times over the 50+ bowls I've run through it. For the size of this device, it puts out enough for me to justify using it at home despite my other options. The onboard storage is just so convenient. Always having a little material in there makes reaching for this an issue choice. I only have to grab one thing. No stems, no stash box, no grinder. Just the FW6. It's a solid OTG option.

Unfortunately, I've never used the FW4 so I can't answer your question directly.
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Thanks, this was an excellent summary. Draw speed was something I battled with using the FW4 I have a naturally strong draw and was always overpowering the heater. I believe the heater has increased in size in both the 5 & 6 so that should help.

TastyCakeWasTasty said:
Excellent summary. I wanted to edit my old post to remove the comment about it being similar to my ArGo in terms of vapour production...it’s leagues better IMO.
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Thanks for this as well! Your comment 100% prompted my post. Very glad to hear the update.
 
hippogriff

hippogriff

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NOLOGO said:
anyone else keep refreshing their email looking for an invoice from Marc? :lol:

I am among those estimated to receive an "invoice next week" (this week) but my VAS is making it hard to focus on other things lol :bang:
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If it helps, I got on the wait list a couple weeks ago and can’t expect an invoice for another 2-3 weeks, but yes, still check my email more frequently than I would otherwise. As is my tradition, as soon as I got on the waitlist I sold my FW5, I guess I like the anticipation.
 
hippogriff

hippogriff

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Easywider said:
Thanks, this was an excellent summary. Draw speed was something I battled with using the FW4 I have a naturally strong draw and was always overpowering the heater. I believe the heater has increased in size in both the 5 & 6 so that should help.
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FWs and Milaanas/Splinters have been my only devices for the last 3ish years. Draw speed has always been crucial to convection vapes IMO. I’m a low-temps, bright-effects vaper, too, and often judge my vapes w The Dog Walk Test - ie can I get properly shifted while walking the dog uphill w/o stopping?

FW3 & FW4 didn’t pass the test - FWs have always had excellent extraction, but with those two I had to sit still and pay attention to my breathing, cigar-puffs, etc.

FW5 was my first FW to pass the DWT. The cigar-puff technique that made the FW4 work great was no longer required, everything was much more automatic. There’s functionally very little difference, in my use, between the FW5 and the Splinter:
- FW5, stock setting 2 for most of the bowl, finish setting 3 if I want couch-y-er effects
- Splinter, mod running 22.2 watts, finish 28 watts if...

With both devices I warm up for 5 sec, then take 10-15 sec draws, moderating my speed based on feel/flavor. As I go through the bowl and/or the battery I might bump everything up to compensate.

Anyway, wanted to offer you my context, cause I think learning draw speed is fundamental to all convection vapes.
 
oddjobold

oddjobold

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To be honest this vape was not for me. I recieved a good offer for it and have sold it on.

I said this before with the FW5, i dont think wood is the best material for this vape. Its feels kinda fargile. I think one drop on to a hard surface and its gonna be broke in some way. I would rather sell it before that happens (which is quite likley with me) and get most my money back.

Performance wise - it was to much hard work. Cigar puffing and drawing for a long time became a chore very quickly. I was expecting a more powerfull heater than than the FW5, but its about the same or worse to me. The heat levels became pointless if you can only use the hotest 1/3 of them, and actually maximum the most.

@TastyCakeWasTasty enjoy my friend - i hope you get on with your new toy better than me.

Glad i brought it and tried it. Mainly because i think i this will help curb my VAS in the future. I have can have strong VAS - but slowly less and less is apealing to me vapewise. Thank god.
 
Fat Freddy

Fat Freddy

FUCK CANCER TOO !
oddjobold said:
Performance wise - it was to much hard work. Cigar puffing and drawing for a long time became a chore very quickly. I was expecting a more powerfull heater than than the FW5, but its about the same or worse to meb. The heat levels became pointless if you can only use the hotest 1/3 of them, and actually maximum the most.
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There have been a number of reports wherein the user has made similar comments on temperature setting. In fact, in the video above at around 8:50, Troy says he boosts the heater to 440 degrees Fahrenheit, (and I paraphrase here) not because it's necessary but because he likes to. As I recall, he doesn't elaborate on why he likes to. ???????????? His statement in that regard...honestly...raised a red flag!

Are there any early adopters here on FC that can verify that the FW6 produces really good, solid vapor at 360, 370, 380 or 390 degrees Fahrenheit!? As most of us are aware, many folks enjoy temp stepping and would be very disappointed in a vape that can't accommodate a variety of EFFECTIVE vaping temperatures, again, temps in the upper 300's!

New users, please take a few minutes to share your experiences! :clap::clap::clap:


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oddjobold

oddjobold

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rvarick said:
I’ve been semi-patiently waiting for my re-firmwared FW6 to make it back to me. Good old USPS somehow found a way to let it sit at multiple locations for days, and send to the wrong post office today so now it’s not arriving until after the Monday holiday :mad:
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Be interested to see if this makes much differnce.

Not enough to regret me selling though.
 
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Brewervapesalot

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oddjobold said:
To be honest this vape was not for me. I recieved a good offer for it and have sold it on.

I said this before with the FW5, i dont think wood is the best material for this vape. Its feels kinda fargile. I think one drop on to a hard surface and its gonna be broke in some way. I would rather sell it before that happens (which is quite likley with me) and get most my money back.

Performance wise - it was to much hard work. Cigar puffing and drawing for a long time became a chore very quickly. I was expecting a more powerfull heater than than the FW5, but its about the same or worse to me. The heat levels became pointless if you can only use the hotest 1/3 of them, and actually maximum the most.

@TastyCakeWasTasty enjoy my friend - i hope you get on with your new toy better than me.

Glad i brought it and tried it. Mainly because i think i this will help curb my VAS in the future. I have can have strong VAS - but slowly less and less is apealing to me vapewise. Thank god.
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Unfortunately, I dont think any portable vape is going get that perfect hit everytime satisfaction that a few plug ins do.... At least not convection vapes.

I'm not convinced I'll like the FW6 more than the FW5, but I'm game to find out :) and guys like marc need our money to be able to be incentivized to keep trying... I'll really respect being people finding something they love, doing it well, and making a living.

Battery technology just isn't there yet for a compact device to keep up with great convection plug ins. Lithium ion probably wont ever be. Expecting otherwise isnt realistic. They'll come up with something sooner than later though. Battery technology seems to advance a good amount every 20 years or so.

For what it's worth, I've broke a few portables with drops and the like, but the FW5 is not one of them.

For example. I've gone through at least 8 paxs. Seem durable, but internals fail.

One thing for FWD's is that wood is very light, so drops are less damaging. It also never gets hot, so it's a material I actually prefer.
 
oddjobold

oddjobold

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Brewervapesalot said:
Unfortunately, I dont think any portable vape is going get that perfect hit everytime satisfaction that a few plug ins do.... At least not convection vapes.

I'm not convinced I'll like the FW6 more than the FW5, but I'm game to find out :) and guys like marc need our money to be able to be incentivized to keep trying... I'll really respect being people finding something they love, doing it well, and making a living.

Battery technology just isn't there yet for a compact device to keep up with great convection plug ins. Lithium ion probably wont ever be. Expecting otherwise isnt realistic. They'll come up with something sooner than later though. Battery technology seems to advance a good amount every 20 years or so.

For what it's worth, I've broke a few portables with drops and the like, but the FW5 is not one of them.

For example. I've gone through at least 8 paxs. Seem durable, but internals fail.

One thing for FWD's is that wood is very light, so drops are less damaging. It also never gets hot, so it's a material I actually prefer.
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I dont own a desktop. My favorite vape atm is stempod si, or custom US splinter.
 
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Brewervapesalot

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oddjobold said:
I dont own a desktop. My favorite vape atm is stempod si, or custom US splinter.
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I'd get a good plug in and you'll see a big (performance) difference compared to ANY portable (I will say that my firefly 2 had some of the best flavor I've ever tasted, however, so portables can rock that category; they just literally dont have the power to have better performance...)
 
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