The ELEV8R from Elev8 Vehicles

[ElPic]

Sneaky Pete reach me by email today and he already ship me a new heater tip at no cost! First time I order at Great White North vaporizer and they have a really good customer service.

Still waiting for my Blazer Big Buddy to be ship by amazon.ca ... but at 31$CAD with free shipping, it’s the cheapest price I found by far... so I will wait LOL
Back in the game soon, can’t wait!!

 

[LabPong]

Sneaky Pete reach me by email today and he already ship me a new heater tip at no cost! First time I order at Great White North vaporizer and they have a really good customer service.

Still waiting for my Blazer Big Buddy to be ship by amazon.ca ... but at 31$CAD with free shipping, it’s the cheapest price I found by far... so I will wait LOL
Back in the game soon, can’t wait!!

That is good to hear! I buy from the US site and have had great experiences. sneakypetestore.com

 

[Alexis]

Yw, Hmm I really have not used both enough to distinguish a flavor difference or dialed either setup in for myself only for the fact that i am no fan of having to use a torch so I only had 1-2 sessions using the torch and put it away in favor of my other vapes. I'll try and go back and test both for you though. Flavor was really nice though using both from what i have tried, I can say that. I just feel using my Flowerpot I can get a better temp dialed in over using this which has a big flavor effect for me. This is definitely harder to dial in.

@Alexis ty for the kind words and likewise. That's a shitty coil situation, I can tell you what i have done and it took me about 5 minutes, but i can also tell you from experience coils do not like to be stretched. I have done this on a liger setup in the past with a 20mm coil and had similar temp fluctuations. I literally used all my strength to quickly spread the coils a tiny a bit by hand, just a mm. It was hard and barely made a big spread at all. Than I had taken a flat head screw driver no cloth and just gently spread them apart using the screw driver and my hand. No crazy force just a small bit at a time. I hope this somewhat helps. I stretched them just enough to cover all the holes so I get a even heat distribution.

Thanks very much man I will try to use this to do a safe job, although I have little bodily strength so I doubt my hands will be able to do very much but I will see, and if not just use a thicker cloth and careful plier use.
So I wonder of your coil is a little overstreched for purpose? The others dont look so stretched and their temo drops are less so maybe that is a factor?

I certainly dont blame you for favouring the Flowerpot for sheer ease of use, eyes closwd and perfectly dialled results every time. Im sure I would be the same myself.

But the fact that you can even put the FP aside for the Elev8r is a great testamant to it I think.
Have a good day at work bro and enjoy that FP when you get howe later. I bet it is an awsome feeling to come home to it every night after a long day.

 

[LabPong]

The stock controller and handle/coil setup the flowerpot uses holds the heat well in regards to temp consistency. It is probably because the controller/coil is set to have a narrow band of temp changing. But also the showerhead, coil nut, and coil cover help keep temps pretty consistent.

My Auber RDK300 has programmable variances you can set for many aspects. I only changed the auto shut off timer to 30 mins instead of 60. I did not want to mess around yet with changing the temp loss ranges. It was sort of technical and I just found it not necessary yet for me.

The way I use the Elev8r with the coil is slightly different than my use with the flowerpot. The flowerpot I turn on and get it ready....then do my draws and I am done in 10-15 mins on average. With the Elev8r use, I take my time and maybe only take a draw every 5 to 15 mins.....and more......like weekend chillin use when I can have time to not do other things and enjoy my medication time.



So I am looking forward to others experimenting with those settings on the RDK300. I may do that later, but with both vapes at my disposal.....why? lol I'm totally spoiled and I know it.

 

[Justpassedu]

Thanks very much man I will try to use this to do a safe job, although I have little bodily strength so I doubt my hands will be able to do very much but I will see, and if not just use a thicker cloth and careful plier use.
So I wonder of your coil is a little overstreched for purpose? The others dont look so stretched and their temo drops are less so maybe that is a factor?

I certainly dont blame you for favouring the Flowerpot for sheer ease of use, eyes closwd and perfectly dialled results every time. Im sure I would be the same myself.

But the fact that you can even put the FP aside for the Elev8r is a great testamant to it I think.
Have a good day at work bro and enjoy that FP when you get howe later. I bet it is an awsome feeling to come home to it every night after a long day.

Yw. I did not follow what others had posted on the stretching of the coil as there is really no set of rules as this is all new and experimentation. I just stretched them to the point i felt they made a nice spread around the heater and covered most of it and gave it a test with decent results. It would be very simple for me to give them a small squeeze and make them a bit smaller but i think my temp drops are just coming from improper tuning/settings on my HexNail as i left the same settings I was using with my FlowerPot on there and just changed my coil type.

 

[disGRUNTled]

Drinking a KBS , listening to Radamiz on "Off the Top" Top Shelf Premium .Vaping Lemon Tree in the ELEV8R (somewhat).So I had ordered this little rig from TAG and I wanted to break it in.Problem is I wanted to use it with the ELEV8R but its a 10 mm female. SO I look thru my drawers trying to find an 10 mm M to 14 mm F and I could not find one.I did have an 10 mm M to 18 mm F to me it looks pretty close to the ELEV8R bowl so I compare them and I am like f*ck it I will try it.I get a screen to throw in it but I did not like the fit.Then I thought let me try a Extreme Q dome screen which I love in the FP sh*t fit like a glove.Threw the heater and coil on it. Boom set at 685 took 2 hits amazing flavor and decent clouds I call this experiment a success.

 

[Abysmal Vapor]

Drinking a KBS , listening to Radamiz on "Off the Top" Top Shelf Premium .Vaping Lemon Tree in the ELEV8R (somewhat).So I had ordered this little rig from TAG and I wanted to break it in.Problem is I wanted to use it with the ELEV8R but its a 10 mm female. SO I look thru my drawers trying to find an 10 mm M to 14 mm F and I could not find one.I did have an 10 mm M to 18 mm F to me it looks pretty close to the ELEV8R bowl so I compare them and I am like f*ck it I will try it.I get a screen to throw in it but I did not like the fit.Then I thought let me try a Extreme Q dome screen which I love in the FP sh*t fit like a glove.Threw the heater and coil on it. Boom set at 685 took 2 hits amazing flavor and decent clouds I call this experiment a success.

Did you also experience large temp drops ? Did the coil glow when you were taking hits. ? I suspect that stretching the coil is not very good for the PID controlling. Cause by stretching it you are also moving the thermal sensor inside and/or at least altering the mass around it. If it is positioned in the tip,and when stretched it is registering temp drops from the area that is closer to the air intake and are cooling fasting, maybe that is another reason for the glowing.

 

[disGRUNTled]

Did you also experience large temp drops ? Did the coil glow when you were taking hits. ? I suspect that stretching the coil is not very good for the PID controlling. Cause by stretching it you are also moving the thermal sensor inside and/or at least altering the mass around it. If it is positioned in the tip,and when stretched it is registering temp drops from the area that is closer to the air intake and are cooling fasting, maybe that is another reason for the glowing.

Only about 5-7 degrees when taking my draw, climbs right back up after I am done.No glow either .

 

[LabPong]

Drinking a KBS , listening to Radamiz on "Off the Top" Top Shelf Premium .Vaping Lemon Tree in the ELEV8R (somewhat).So I had ordered this little rig from TAG and I wanted to break it in.Problem is I wanted to use it with the ELEV8R but its a 10 mm female. SO I look thru my drawers trying to find an 10 mm M to 14 mm F and I could not find one.I did have an 10 mm M to 18 mm F to me it looks pretty close to the ELEV8R bowl so I compare them and I am like f*ck it I will try it.I get a screen to throw in it but I did not like the fit.Then I thought let me try a Extreme Q dome screen which I love in the FP sh*t fit like a glove.Threw the heater and coil on it. Boom set at 685 took 2 hits amazing flavor and decent clouds I call this experiment a success.

Nice....you had the holy grail of parts in your stash to make that 10mm water unit rock!

At first I was looking at your pic and thinking...huh...he has a odd looking Elev8r bowl...must of been a prototype or something. Then I read your wording and realized it was a 10mm connection. And after seeing the screen setup from the downward photo...I knew you had something much different going on.

Sorry for that KBS stuff.....I kept telling Founders it was crap when they first started making it years ago....now it is what put them on the map...lol They are full on troopers.....they almost didn't make it...and now they are responsible for so much. Funny how all the nasty tasting beers to me are popular....and I cant find a decent American Belgium style Triple anywhere ....usually...and I am here in beer city.....I can walk to Founders from work......and 14 other breweries. I do appreciate seeing your brews!

Did you also experience large temp drops ? Did the coil glow when you were taking hits. ? I suspect that stretching the coil is not very good for the PID controlling. Cause by stretching it you are also moving the thermal sensor inside and/or at least altering the mass around it. If it is positioned in the tip,and when stretched it is registering temp drops from the area that is closer to the air intake and are cooling fasting, maybe that is another reason for the glowing.

I think the difference of the non stretched coil vs stretched in this case.....not that big of a difference. The exposed coil is sensitive to ambient air and physical contact points. So when I see my coil getting red...it is only at the point of the lowest temp....and only gets red hot to pump the temp back up to set temp range.

This is my experience with using an exposed coil (until someone makes a elev8r coil cover), and the RDK300 controller. I can go into settings and change the parameters of the heat drop/heat up ranges...but did not feel it necessary because the time to go from lower heat to top heat is not very long most of the time...especially after you started and got the heater warmed up.

 

[BigJr48]

Any 4/20 sales on the Elev8r?

 

[Alexis]

Any 4/20 sales on the Elev8r?

Not sure yet bro, will keep an eye out. Actually Sneaky Pete has something, 20% I think? Just remembered an email. Im sure Jahvaporizer in France will have some 4/20 deal. I bet 15%.

I also want to say that my Elev8r is continuing to do something which I have been taking for granted. It gets me high, really uplifts my mental state. I often immediatedly tell myself "I feel better" after a few hits when I have been feeling rough and depression/anxiety levels have spiked. Every time it just eases everything in the most comfortable and smooth way, as vapes go.

It's really catching me out in the mornings currently, I take a few hits of Sativa doms, and man I'm so high in such a good way. Loads of mental energy, in a dreamy trance like dizzy state that isn't too much but plenty enough.
Like right now in fact. Think Different this morning, stock bowl. Gorgeous flavor, smooth smooth vapor, and SUPER high already.

I have been using both stock and the smaller bowl mod. I am certain the smaller bowl doesn't ever match the amazing flavour of the stock bowl, IME so far. I notice it the more I switch bewteen them now, but I hope the coil might improve this.

And my strains have some truly lovely flavours you know. The Elev8r really brings out this distinct orange juice flavour in some of them. It is so like taking the neat orange juice I remember from childhood, the stuff you mix with water. But in a lovely way. Damn yummy.
More vapor now have a good day all.

 

[disGRUNTled]

Drinking a Intuition Ale Works BBA Underdark Imperial Stout.Using the ELEV8R with the torch instead of with the coil for the 1st time.Amazing flavor vaping Forbidden fruit, listening to Erick Sermon.

EDIT: I really enjoyed using the ELEV8R with the torch . Nailed where I wanted it from the very first hit.I own a couple of StickyBricks so maybe that helped.Got a couple of very nice flavorful hits,this is what it looked like when I dumped it.I tend to dump after one more hit after I notice I decline in flavor.

 

[Alexis]

Okay I got me new coil from China 2 days ago. I tested it first this time with the rdk-300.
It worked! Except the temps weren't reaching target above a certain range.
Up to 750 yesterday and it worked good, the coil reaching that temp.

800 initially it was way lower and stayed there, like 50° or more. A while later and 800 was working good, but 850 and coil temp was lower than when set to 800.

750 and below was spot on.
Today- I got pliers, cloth and flat screwdiver and stretched it carefully as I could. Did a great job, got a perfect fit. Anxiously plugged in to see if I damaged it- it works!!

So success. However tge temps are way off today, like 90° on 700 or lower.
Not sure if it to do with the coil stretch. But it was behaving a little a regularly yesterday anyway like to begin with it wouldn't reach 800, but was fine up to 750.

Then after some playing around with different temperatures and taking photographs to email Auber, I was able to get the coil to reach accurate temp up to 825.
Care for a few photos from yesterday?








@LabPong I expect to get your impressions on this from your end and experiences with the Rdk-300, not yet though.
Need to see how it settles down today. I expect it will make little difference to the performance as long as I go by what temp the coil is at, not sure though. But I would be a lot happier to see the coil and controller behaving as they should.

So a grand success on my part, but holding the celebrations for the moment. Testing to come later, excited!

 

[Alexis]

Right, problem solved. And we have so far a grand success! Im blown away from a few hits, but even more so at the performance of the controller now I fixed it. (Well, I didn't really fix it, I just found out lol!)

Gosh Im lost for words. Too buzzing to post but I wanted to share this right away. Gotta upload a few pics from imgur, hang tight...Hurry up imgur.....tumteetum....okay sorted.
First, I waa testing the temps today, leaving it on sitting in a China cup on top of a sikicon heat mat. (Which is now warped!!)




As you see, temps are way off since I reshaped the coil.
I finally got round to testing it tonight, and look what happened when I put the coil on the Elev8r:

So it was the China cup that was the culprit. It was stealing the heat. The silicon heat mat was warping up and the desktop was hot as fuck!

Now, did I do a good job this time or what?


It's a very neat fit. Still a little too tight at the bottom/top? coil. It was snagged a few times, but I can easily seperate them by holding the bowl and sort or twisting apart. Feels natural when you see how. I think it may work better this way though, barely loose enough to seperate easily.
But wow, I'm just blown away with temp stability and the controller performance. It seemed like it would be a pita trying to pick and keep a temp, but no- steady as a rock! Only a few degress dropped in a long hit, back up quickly and steady. Amazed.

Speaking of the long hits- I overdid it. Forgot what I was doing. So used to drawing harder as the heat leaves the heater. I guess I was just testing the heater, and well. That was one of the hardest, biggest hits I've had from this beast so far. Like my first time it felt.

A bit too much for my chest, but it was a massive hit. I kept hitting it, it kept milking. It never stopped! We have a heavy hitter here coooh! Check out temp stability:

Anywhere you want, pick a temp and it's there, bang on. I never expected that from what I've seen and heard, except from @disGRUNTled 's own reports, whose coil is also on the snug side.
Im using the small bowl tonight and it's blown my freakin head off. Now I can't wait to put the regular bowl on there with a large load, knowing I won't overtorch it impatiently. Just start low, sip and enjoy.

I need to loosen the coil a little. Didn't want to push it. Now I can stop craving the FP downstairs. If this setup is easy enough to work well, I'll be well happy.
Off now. Bloody wasted I tell you.
@LabPong you never told me this setup will hit that hard, and don't overdo it. I thought the temps and vapor would wince out on me haha! Night.

 

[disGRUNTled]

Right, problem solved. And we have so far a grand success! Im blown away from a few hits, but even more so at the performance of the controller now I fixed it. (Well, I didn't really fix it, I just found out lol!)

Gosh Im lost for words. Too buzzing to post but I wanted to share this right away. Gotta upload a few pics from imgur, hang tight...Hurry up imgur.....tumteetum....okay sorted.
First, I waa testing the temps today, leaving it on sitting in a China cup on top of a sikicon heat mat. (Which is now warped!!)




As you see, temps are way off since I reshaped the coil.
I finally got round to testing it tonight, and look what happened when I put the coil on the Elev8r:

So it was the China cup that was the culprit. It was stealing the heat. The silicon heat mat was warping up and the desktop was hot as fuck!

Now, did I do a good job this time or what?


It's a very neat fit. Still a little too tight at the bottom/top? coil. It was snagged a few times, but I can easily seperate them by holding the bowl and sort or twisting apart. Feels natural when you see how. I think it may work better this way though, barely loose enough to seperate easily.
But wow, I'm just blown away with temp stability and the controller performance. It seemed like it would be a pta trying to pick and keep a temp, but no- steady as a rock! Only a few degress dropped in a long hit, back up quickly and steady. Amazed.

Speaking of the long hits- I overdid it. Forgot what I was doing. So used to drawing harder as the heat leaves the heater. I guess I was just testing the heater, and well. That was one of the hardest, biggest hits I've had from this beast so far. Like my first time it felt.

A bit too much for my chest, but it was a massive hit. I kept hitting it, it kept milking. It never stopped! We have a heavy hitter here coooh! Check out temp stability:

Anywhere you want, pick a temp and it's there, bang on. I never expected that from what I've seen and heard, except from @disGRUNTled 's own reports, whose coil is also on the snug side.
Im using the small bowl tonight and it's blown my freakin head off. Now I can't wait to put the regular bowl on there with a large load, knowing I won't overtorch it impatiently. Just start low, sip and enjoy.

I need to loosen the coil a little. Didn't want to push it. Now I can stop craving the FP downstairs. If this setup is easy enough to work well, I'll be well happy.
Off now. Bloody wasted I tell you.
@LabPong you never told me this setup will hit that hard, and don't overdo it. I thought the temps and vapor would wince out on me haha! Night.

 

[LabPong]

@LabPong you never told me this setup will hit that hard, and don't overdo it. I thought the temps and vapor would wince out on me haha! Night.

 

[Alexis]

Time to check in. I stretched my coil a little more yesterday for an easier fit:



Sitting pretty damn good. Still slightly too tight, needs to be at a certain orientation to slide off still, but not bad.
I may loosen it again but I want to keep it as tight as poss because I think this might perform better this way. I bet the losser the coil is, the more the temps may drop, but only a guess. Makes some sense

So yesterday I had 2 vapcaps, one decent edible dose (for digestion's sake) and 3 Elev8r loads with coil- 2 big bowl, one small bowl.
Woah I got the most hammered I have been for YEARS! No exaggeration. I got up today feeling totally wasted like I never feel these days. The coil released the reigns. Im sure I overdid it testing out my new toy, stupidly pushing it with the novelty of extended hits.

It dies function differently with the coil. Can't put my finger on it atm. It is extremely smooth every single hit now. I also feel I am getting a more complete extraction, which is also very even in both bowls. With the torch I would often stop getting enough vapor to make reheating worthwhile, and my abv showed some life still.

And too frequently I would overheat initially out of impatience just wanting to get medded with no real interest in the torhing ritual. I try to avoid this because it drains off the load too fast with some uneven darkening, which results in a reduced effect due to rapid boiling and destruction of compounds.

With coil it is taking more draws to finish the load. But it is more completely and evenly extracted. I got more medicated yesterday than any previous day since owning it, and I have vaped more or equal amounts in a day.
I believe this is down to the temp regulation and temp stepping which enables more actives overall.

For some reason when I turn it on, sometimes it is struggling to reach temp. It stops and hovers 50-80° below. Won't climb. With coil on heater. I fiddle with it a bit. Turn other way up, turn round, remove and replace etc.
Nothing can happen, then after I do rotate/move it it suddenly responds and climbs to set temp. Once there it holds steady.

I do get variable temp drops during a hit. It can be 5 to 20°, usually 10 at the most. But what I find- if you take one hit and the temp drops say 10 °, it then starts to climb again quick and you can hit it again, as hard as you like and you get an uptemp hit where the temp keeps rising to the end of your hit, and is sitting just above the set temp before it settles level again.

Anyway this setup can be very hardcore. I must learn to restrain myself. Just don't need to be at that level of medication. It was great though.

 

[Diggy Smalls]

When I'm not using the v8r, I recently started using it as an herb infuser for my todato island vape.



I don't use my V8R daily, it's a special treat. Well, imagine how awesome it's going to be with this nugget? I hope. I picked my prettiest nug that just barely fits with no squishing. Doesn't restrict the airflow that I can tell.

The coil stuff seems cool, but man, that's not for me. I can't hit this thing more than one bowl. I would have to wait for the coil to heat up, just like I would have to wait for the propane. I don't use it again for hours. It just is that strong for me. I do not need a coil. I don't have friends to vape with, either.
The coil looks really fun for a group. Oh man, if I had a coil and elev8r with a bubbler setup 10 years ago, my life today might be different. Lol

Yo, I'm high. It's not my fault, though. I started talking about it, I had to use it. Anyway, I had another thought...I do not like the screens. It was nice that they gave us so many, but they get dirty and clogged so quickly. I think I recall some people finding better screens...I would totally be interested. My vapcap stays the cleanest, my log vapes come in second, and the v8r needs screen cleaning all the dang time.

 

[LabPong]

I do not like the screens. It was nice that they gave us so many, but they get dirty and clogged so quickly. I think I recall some people finding better screens...I would totally be interested. My vapcap stays the cleanest, my log vapes come in second, and the v8r needs screen cleaning all the dang time.

It clogs screens quick because it is a total Herculean Extractor! Can not compare this part to a vapcap or other less than Herculean vape! haaa Yea my vapcaps stay fairly clean. My arizer's WPA's with screens get gunked up too.....just not as quick. My elev8r and Flowerpot are about the same.....because they are not toys like portables. They are commercial equipment in comparison.

 

[Alexis]

When I'm not using the v8r, I recently started using it as an herb infuser for my todato island vape.



I don't use my V8R daily, it's a special treat. Well, imagine how awesome it's going to be with this nugget? I hope. I picked my prettiest nug that just barely fits with no squishing. Doesn't restrict the airflow that I can tell.

The coil stuff seems cool, but man, that's not for me. I can't hit this thing more than one bowl. I would have to wait for the coil to heat up, just like I would have to wait for the propane. I don't use it again for hours. It just is that strong for me. I do not need a coil. I don't have friends to vape with, either.
The coil looks really fun for a group. Oh man, if I had a coil and elev8r with a bubbler setup 10 years ago, my life today might be different. Lol

Yo, I'm high. It's not my fault, though. I started talking about it, I had to use it. Anyway, I had another thought...I do not like the screens. It was nice that they gave us so many, but they get dirty and clogged so quickly. I think I recall some people finding better screens...I would totally be interested. My vapcap stays the cleanest, my log vapes come in second, and the v8r needs screen cleaning all the dang time.

I just went back though the thread to find my own link. I am only using these screens now in both bowls. They are much sturdier, can bw either pretty flat or concave in the stock bowl.

They last longer. They have a finer mesh but IME don't get so easily clogged and are far easier to brush or blow clear.
https://www.amazon.com/Made-USA-Stainless-Premium-Filters/dp/B01J01XGPA

Glad you are stil loving the sporadic Elev8r loads and mixing it up. And yeah I am realising the Elev8r should be less of a daily driver for me. Which has always been the intention when I have the Herborizer.

This coil rig has batted me hard the last 2 days. Its weird because it doesn't seem to deliver the same hit as the torch. Comes on more subtly like the Aromed, but Im feeling much more medicated for quite some time. Quite messed up actually, not realy felt that way from weed for a while lol!

 

[Alexis]

Right I think I have figured it out now. I wasn't getting accurate performance at all yesterday. Coil way below set temp. Here is a photo of the coil last night:


Notice the uneven glow. It was sitting 90° under set temp at that time. No temp increase despite the glowing middle coils. I suspected maybe the coils at both ends were too far apart. Notice the gaps.
So I pushed them back together a bit late last night for my bedtine sess (dodn't need it at all btw).
To my delight, I turned the controller on and it reached set temp in a timely manner, first time all day yesterday from start. Stayed right there as well, very minimal temp drops during long hits, back up and stable quickly.
Instant response to temp adjustments in both directions. One or two mins max and steady at new set temp. Perfect performance.
Here is the coil today:


I just fired it up for the first time today:


Quickly up to set temp and solid. So, that seems to have been the issue- coils not close enough to each other. If anyone has problems with innaccuracy, or large temp fluctuations, try getting your coils spaced like mine above. This seems to be about optimum for performance.

Still blown away from this rig. It is 7 pm here now and I have not even vaped today. To be honest I could really do with a day off! Whatever vapes I have hit over recent years, I haven't felt this cained still the whole of the next day. I used to feel this way often with my Large Verdamper, but that was partly due to abusing it.
I didn't think I was abusing the Elev8r. In fact I think it is abusing me while I am still learning the new ropes.

 

[disGRUNTled]

Drinking a Macho Mead Berry Savage , Forbidden fruit in the ELEV8R .Listening to Rome Streetz.

 

[LabPong]

I posted this on the other forum.....



Andy, while heating up my Elev8r coil to do a session, I was recalling one of your pic's recently that showed you put the coil over the heater "upside down".....(handle into the coil was on top).

Just for the heck of it I tried doing that after my first heat up draw. As soon as I put my coil on the heater the opposite way....handle up......the temps dropped dramatically on the controller. I mean....instantly. I also noticed that it got much more red and hot looking upon the heat up surge.


I think the heat sensor is like Baron mentioned....at the top or towards the tip end of the coil. I do not see how this could make such a dramatic effect otherwise. I actually squeezed my coil just a bit closer to see if I got any diff in heat consistency from what I have been getting....its bout the same. I think you need to keep the coil wraps close to each other to get much more consistent heat. But this is my experience with the RDK300 and Auber's coil.

But either way, does not change the way I use the coil on the Eleva8r. I do not mind waiting 30-60 seconds of "coil on heater" time to get my draws out of it.....usually 3 draws this way....with a torch I would only get 2.

Yes there is a difference in vapor going from torch to coil......many variables have changed going from one to the other. I like both and mainly use a coil if I am going to do more than 3 draws and for extended sessions in a sitting. But If I need to quick medicate well....grabbing the torch for a 5 min or so quickly is not bested by any vape experience I have found to date.

 

[Alexis]

I posted this on the other forum.....

Ditto :
@LabPong one of us is tripping here man haha! As far as I am aware, @AndY Noth has not even used a coil yet. Are you sure you have not mistaken his identity with my own? If that isn't the case, then I am tripping. If it is, then I am innocent ha! :wink:

But yeah it can make a difference which way up you put it, but at times it has not seemed to make a difference. All a bit foggy right now anyhow. I dont remember much of the previous days after waking up currently tbh, and last week- what does that even mean?

But to add, yes the vape signature is completely altered. The way it functions and draw technique, hit size, visibility, speed and more Im too dumbfounded to picture.

But just like you say LabPong, so many variables at play. Still Im very surprised at how different it is..

The torch is more of a hit, an instant trajection. Exhilarating at that. The coil however medicates me to a higher level with such a long lasting effect. It is a far more potent delivery of actives with the more constant temps or other variables.

But I am thinking I may have to abandon the coil setup. I am sure it is causing me a different type of respiratory aggravation- to have altererd the vape signature so much.

Had a real rough week though getting over the latest virus so it will take a while to figure things out. But my gut is telling me and I know he is always right. The Elev8r is the best tolerated and non irritating vape ever for me, when I torch it right, for the size of the hits I can take.

So if the coil setup has changed that for me then it may have to go.

 

[invertedisdead]

But I am thinking I may have to abandon the coil setup. I am sure it is causing me a different type of respiratory aggravation- to have altererd the vape signature so much.

Interesting Alexis!
Sounds like what I was saying previously that the torched thermal curve which is constantly cooling down may be smoother for you.

From one sensitive vaporist to another, I truly recommend trying a hair straightener and squishing a nug into rosin. Then get a quartz banger off the 'Gate to run from one of these PID controllers you have.
None of that harsh convective air.