Discontinued Zion vaporizer

MikeInMiami

Well-Known Member
You're the lead mechanical design honcho, and vaping hasn't really won you over?

That makes me really not all that interested in the vaporizer you're helping to design.
Have you read the whole thread? If not you should. If you think @thekarmawhore isnt capable of making a product based on his preferred method of smoking, I think you're short-changing yourself. :2c:
 

EveryDayAmnesiac

Well-Known Member
I think it shows the power of the ZION!!!!

Yeah, it shows something.

making a product based on his preferred method of smoking

Again, makes me lose a lot of interest.

Can't wait to hear the results of the beta testing. Especially after all the compliments those testers have already received ad nauseam.
 

HD Springer

Well-Known Member
I dont care who is involved in the process.If its a great product my feelings on who helped design it doesn't mean anything to me.Hell half the people on this thread has had input.Stick around and throw some usefull shit against the wall and see if it sticks.
 

DieHard

Accessory supplier
Accessory Maker
This doesn't phase me a bit. @RastaBuddhaTao has faith in his engineer. The fact that @thekarmawhore doesnt prefer to vape does not make him any less qualified to help create one. If he ends up preferring to vape because of this unit, I would be surprised. There are some hard-core combusters that will not be swayed. Nobody is kissing my ass. My interest in this unit came from the open source design vibe I got from this thread. They have considered suggestions from literally dozens of vaporists right here on this forum. Not just their combusting engineer.

Edit : @HD Springer short and sweet post saying the same thing ninja'd me.
 

EveryDayAmnesiac

Well-Known Member
I dont care who is involved in the process.

I do.

If its a great product

I think it's already been decided that it is.

Hell half the people on this thread has had input

Really.

Stick around and throw some usefull shit against the wall and see if it sticks.

Working on it.

But I guess I can't be as helpful as getting excited about something I haven't tried. All I can do is be cautious. Maybe it's better to just be excited though.

Great post.

I find this whole thread to be very carefully crafted, and I don't like it.
 

EveryDayAmnesiac

Well-Known Member
I think it's more a case of I never tried anything good enough to sway me yet, but I'm always open to change.

For what it's worth, you all designed it, I'm just the translator that gets it all into digital form.

Yeah, there just hasn't been a good enough vaporizer on the market yet, until.... the Zion. Understandable.

And yeah, the Zion wasn't at all designed until it came to FC...

But I do get goosebumps thinking I, as part of FC, helped design it.
 

KeroZen

Chronic vapaholic
@EveryDayAmnesiac : Well they chose two moderators with huge experience, countless vapes under their belt, and strictly no vested interest in this company, as well as an engineer known for being a fucking nitpicker (me) for their beta testing phase. They are taking big risks here as all three of us clearly have no intent to be biased, as we don't want this forum to turn into a sponsored tea party.

The product will speak for itself. Yes we had the same impression of "too good to be true" at first, but we've seen videos, the thing exists and Sticks will get one in his hands pretty soon.
 

HD Springer

Well-Known Member
@EveryDayAmnesiac let me know when you put yur stamp of aproval on it.
Carefully crafted is a cute way of saying you think some one or some thing is full of shit.
All I can do is wait and see.
Have you read the whole thread?You have been around a hell of a lot longer than most so what gives with your remarks
 
HD Springer,

EveryDayAmnesiac

Well-Known Member
Well they chose two moderators with huge experience

I think you mean one moderator, and being a moderator doesn't mean anything to me anymore.

strictly no vested interest in this company

I don't know that.

as well as an engineer known for being a fucking nitpicker (me)

Sarcasm aside, I do like that, actually. But I've seen people swayed by compliments before.

They are taking big risks here as all three of us clearly have no intent to be biased

Again, I don't know that. Call me cynical. Sometimes mods start threads about vapes that seem to be really, really, really positive.

as we don't want this forum to turn into a sponsored tea party.

Getting closer and closer these days, some people say.

The product will speak for itself.

I think so as well.

Yes we had the same impression of "too good to be true" at first, but we've seen videos, the thing exists and Sticks will get one in his hands pretty soon.

I'm calm now.
 

KeroZen

Chronic vapaholic
Well it's natural and quite sane to have doubts and question things, but I promise that I will do my best to be biased as little as possible (as there's always some kind of bias at play, even if only subconscious)

I can't speak for Sticks and Paka and I'll let them clarify this aspect for you (or not!)
 

RastaBuddhaTao

Well-Known Member
Manufacturer
I could use the extra income, since no one has the balls to send me a free vape to review.

Maybe if I hang out in a random NE headshop the Zion creator will just come waltzing in and invite me over for a beta testing...

Check is in the mail. Money well spent ;)

Rastabuddhatao's fate lies in the hands of @stickstones... Hero or zero come Monday. Stick around... This could get interesting?
 

Mister G

Deceptively Old Fart
Shit just got real. :evil:

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EveryDayAmnesiac

Well-Known Member
Want to know how the ABV can be so uniform and golden brown? Wanna know how a device can be o efficient it can run 21 loads on one battery charge? Wanna know how the clouds can be so huge and the vapor so cool?

Not really, unless someone I trust is telling me why / how.

BTW, I don't give a darn about "huge clouds." I avoid them, actually.
 
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