WTF does this even mean??

Vicki

Vicki

Herbal Alchemist
I have been reading this on food packages for a while now, and it's been bugging the hell out of me!!

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syrupy

syrupy

Authorized Buyer
Vicki said:
It's the statement as it reads that confuses me, "natural flavor with OTHER natural flavor." Why repeat it twice? Why not just say, "Natural flavor." That is what's bugging me. :nod:
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The first one implies natural lemon flavor. The other natural flavor can be almost anything. If they didn't have to make the distinction, then everything would be "natural".

Edit: I'm way late.
 
grokit

grokit

well-worn member
Why food manufacturers love MSG
"MSG tricks the taste buds into getting stimulated and tricks the brain into thinking we are eating protein that is wholesome and nourishing for the body. Nothing could be further from the truth. This salt-like substance creates an insulin explosion in the blood stream even when blood glucose levels are normal. The sudden and unexpected insulin release combined with protein stimulation creates an insatiable appetite. The result naturally will be over eating, and gradually obesity and a host of other illnesses."
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Seren

Seren

Away with the fairies
I avoid MSG like the plague - it's not banned in the UK as it is in some other countries - if you get that immediate mouth-watering, I need more of this response to snacks or fast foods - you can almost guarantee that MSG is the cause - horrible stuff!
 
basement farmer

basement farmer

My face is melting...
Vicki sed:

It's the statement as it reads that confuses me, "natural flavor with OTHER natural flavor." Why repeat it twice? Why not just say, "Natural flavor." That is what's bugging me. :nod:

It obviously has to mean that those Oreo's are 2X as good for you as the ones with only a single natural flavor:tup:

grokit said:
Why food manufacturers love MSG
"MSG tricks the taste buds into getting stimulated and tricks the brain into thinking we are eating protein that is wholesome and nourishing for the body. Nothing could be further from the truth. This salt-like substance creates an insulin explosion in the blood stream even when blood glucose levels are normal. The sudden and unexpected insulin release combined with protein stimulation creates an insatiable appetite. The result naturally will be over eating, and gradually obesity and a host of other illnesses."
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That seems like a reasonable point and a good reason to use it in moderation. Though I think most people's fear of it is mostly based on ignorance, which is further compounded by it's scary chemical name. wikipedia has a pretty good and easy to read discussion about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monosodium_glutamate



But getting down to brass tacks, the same thing can be said of many things we ingest, like "natural" sweeteners and tobacco. They are derived from plants, right?

The word natural is at best relative and at worst dangerous...but mostly meaningless in the terms of food processing.

I think the main difference is that the general public has been largely educated on the risk factors associated with sugar consumption and how it relates to obesity and it's health consequences or tobacco and it's obvious health drawbacks. Some of the other stuff that goes into our blood streams?....not so much.

Marketing will always find a way to get around the facts or bend the truth despite the best regulatory efforts to prevent it.

At least we can all agree that no one eats Oreo's because of their awesome nutritional value.
BTW, are those Oreo's gluten free? (facetiousness intended)
 
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basement farmer

basement farmer

My face is melting...
Snappo

Snappo

Caveat Emptor - "A Billion People Can Be Wrong!"
Accessory Maker
lwien said:
It's kinda like the guy who smoked cigs for 30 years and died from lung cancer, but...............he died from natural causes, like that's supposed to be better somehow than if he got hit by a fucking train? :doh:
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Vaping tobacco is supposed to be safe, right? They say it does taste a lot better vaped. Might have to try it myself to see.
 
grokit

grokit

well-worn member
basement farmer said:
That seems like a reasonable point and a good reason to use it in moderation. Though I think most people's fear of it is mostly based on ignorance, which is further compounded by it's scary chemical name. wikipedia has a pretty good and easy to read discussion about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monosodium_glutamate
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My not-so-humble opinion of that wiki page is that it's corporate-vetted bullshit.
I see no reason to add a neurotoxin to my food at all, even in "moderation".
It sounds like you're not as sensitive to msg as many others are, and that's great for you. For myself there is no reasonable amount, because every time I eat food with it added to it, it makes me physically miserable.

If you investigate alternative sources of information, the fears that people have are not based on ignorance. In fact I would say that it isn't fear, but information and experience that has led people to want food without chemical additives, especially a neurotoxin that is labeled as natural such as msg. I know it occurs in some food naturally and that's fine, just don't dump it into mine as a toxic chemically-equivalent additive.

All the articles on this page are pretty well-researched with citations:
http://www.naturalnews.com/MSG.html
 
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