Would you give up smoking for a job?

[Tea Party]

Any by smoking I mean vaping/dabbing/what ever.


It would be working for a friend. He wouldn't bother drug testing me but said he would prefer that i not smoke while I work for him.

Pros:
-work from home
-6 figures+

cons:
-crazy hours ( not just a lot but we would sometimes have to work at night)
-no smoking, no drinking during the week


what do you guys think?

 

[paytonpenn]

Can I ask what kind of job it is that it is work from home and you aren't allowed to vape.
Would you quit toking in general or only around working times.

 

[havealight101]

Short answer: If my family depended on it... Yes. If not, no.
There are a lot of variables there that can and should influence those types of big decisions, its hard to say much more because everyones situation is different. Priorities generally win... But wich ones?
Best of luck.

 

[Vicki]

Of course. I have stopped toking many times to get jobs.

 

[JDSupreme]

It would take a pretty decent chunk of change. I could stop to pass a test to get a job if I knew I could start back up after.

However if it were me, and no piss test was involved, I'd say fuck it, take the job, and just vape whenever I wasn't working.

Bottom line is I'd rather be happy and able to do what I want with a bit less money than to make a bit more and not be able to enjoy my life the way I wanted.

But I also don't drink at all so herb is all I have in this world.

 

[NorCalBrah]

I'd accept the job and still vape at home.

 

[kingofnull]

If I knew I was going to be tested then yes.

I worked for a municipal law enforcement agency (MLA) for a long time and vaped throughout.

 

[Tea Party]

Lol there would be no drug test. It would be the honor of my word. The industry is finance and I'd be living in a condo with the boss so we could be close to the office. The thing is in the middle of the night something may happen and we could have to work the next 12 hours straight.

Pay would be $100,000 starting.

 

[kingofnull]

Kinda weird living in a condo with your boss...

If it's worth 100k for you to be sober then go for it. I don't know that I'd ever quit, but then I medicate for pain as well as pleasure.

 

[newVaper420]

Yea, seeing as I use MJ for pain due to IBS I wouldn't do it. I also hate finance, so two strikes for me. But when I go for a job and they say drug test, I say no thanks.

 

[kingofnull]

I've never been in this situation, so I wonder what the result would be on a negative drug test with a MMJ exception/script?

 

[Tea Party]

Boss is a long time friend. I'm astonished at home many herr would not go for the better career.... Buy when I look at the state of the USA it does not surprise me

 

[lwien]

Lol there would be no drug test. It would be the honor of my word. The industry is finance and I'd be living in a condo with the boss so we could be close to the office. The thing is in the middle of the night something may happen and we could have to work the next 12 hours straight.

Pay would be $100,000 starting.

So let me get this straight.

Someone came up to you and said, I will pay you 100 grand, but it will require two things. One is that you will have to give up weed. Secondly, you have to move in with me.

For me, the moving in requirement would pose a MUCH bigger hurdle than giving up weed.

Edit: The other thing that needs to be known is how much are you making now and what is the net improvement in order to gauge what you are gaining versus what you are giving up.

 

[kingofnull]

Boss is a long time friend. I'm astonished at home many herr would not go for the better career.... Buy when I look at the state of the USA it does not surprise me

Cannabis is medecine for a lot of people. I don't think it's worth any amount of money to live life uncomfortably/in pain.

When I worked for an MLA, my salary was in the mid $80K to low $90K range after overtime, paid duties, court, et al. Luckily drug testing wasn't standard, but if it was I probably would've left much earlier than I did.

edit: I agree with lwien. How much you make now is certainly a factor, when considering how much you need to give up for this job.

 

[Tea Party]

You know I understand it legitimately helps certain people. Though I'd bet money that half of them just got scrips to get high. I live in a Mmj state though I'd never get a card despite having documented issues that I would easily get it. Of the 15 or so that I know in person who have cards none of them have any major medical issues they just like to get high, a lot.

 

[mrfloopa]

I'm with lwein... moving into a condo with your boss? I could make some neat little assumptions there, . That would be the biggest hurdle. People are free to do whatever they want. Not everybody thinks money is the end all and worth giving up parts of their life for. Especially not parts like independent living and having a stable job you enjoy instead of crazy hours with no way to predict them..

 

[aesthyrian]

Your name is Tea Party, what happened to personal freedoms and liberties?

I would think the answer is simple if you apply that thought process. But if you're risking starvation and homelessness than there is another easy answer.

I guess it depends on how important money is to you compared to your freedom. Does this friend also request that you not consume caffeine? It's only fair. I think it's quite outrageous IMO. Plenty of people in that industry enjoy cocaine on a regular basis, this is no secret and it's tolerated. Seems like this "friend" is just using the high pay to pressure you to make personal life changes that you clearly do not want to make since you haven't made the change on your own. But then again, how important is the money to you? Is it worth giving up most of your free time and something that you enjoy that has very little or no negative effect on your life? I mean really, not being able to do what you want after a long day of work? Sounds like being a slave to your job and/or employer.

I have friends that I wish would quit drinking so damn much, but I would never use employment as a means of doing so. But I'm also not into manipulating people that I love and care for. This sounds like manipulation to me.

 

[Stu]

TP, I think you should definitely take the job.

Having said that, you obviously won't be able to bring your custom heady HT, so I'm offering my services to babysit it for you until such time that you can partake again.

I know, I know.... it's a generous offer on my part, but it's what I do...... I'm a giver.

 

[jackmormon]

Totally depends on where you are at now. Everything has trade-offs. If you are making substantially less than 100K a year now it MIGHT be worth it. I can't really imagine a real-deal employment situation that requires what you described. Sounds like a start-up situation which is another thing to weigh into your decision. Another thing is how cool you would be with a "boss" who is already trying to control your behavior? I think a person would need a subservient type of personality to deal with it for very long. Best of luck whatever you decide.

 

[vapirtoo]

Judge me on the quality of my work , not the quality of my piss.
I know, no piss testing is involved.
How you perform your job should be priority one.
Hey TP was that a put down about the state of
our union... people not willing to give up herb
for , as you put it , a career.

 

[Tea Party]

fyi the potential boss smokes on an occasion, he's a big fan of the cloud

Your name is Tea Party, what happened to personal freedoms and liberties?

I would think the answer is simple if you apply that thought process. But if you're risking starvation and homelessness than there is another easy answer.

I guess it depends on how important money is to you compared to your freedom. Does this friend also request that you not consume caffeine? It's only fair. I think it's quite outrageous IMO. Plenty of people in that industry enjoy cocaine on a regular basis, this is no secret and it's tolerated. Seems like this "friend" is just using the high pay to pressure you to make personal life changes that you clearly do not want to make since you haven't made the change on your own. But then again, how important is the money to you? Is it worth giving up most of your free time and something that you enjoy that has very little or no negative effect on your life? I mean really, not being able to do what you want after a long day of work? Sounds like being a slave to your job and/or employer.

I have friends that I wish would quit drinking so damn much, but I would never use employment as a means of doing so. But I'm also not into manipulating people that I love and care for. This sounds like manipulation to me.

I would think he would encourage caffeine...

He's not trying to change my life he wants to know that i'll be sharp and quick if an opportunity presents it self.

Kinda weird living in a condo with your boss...

If it's worth 100k for you to be sober then go for it. I don't know that I'd ever quit, but then I medicate for pain as well as pleasure.

My potential boss is less than a year older than me.

100k would be starting....

So let me get this straight.

Someone came up to you and said, I will pay you 100 grand, but it will require two things. One is that you will have to give up weed. Secondly, you have to move in with me.

For me, the moving in requirement would pose a MUCH bigger hurdle than giving up weed.

Edit: The other thing that needs to be known is how much are you making now and what is the net improvement in order to gauge what you are gaining versus what you are giving up.

Well it's not set in stone but he said he like be to abstain from weed and alcohol during the week. I don't have to move in with him but finding another place as nice for that price won't happen, not even close.

It's be more like working with your room mate.

I'm with lwein... moving into a condo with your boss? I could make some neat little assumptions there, . That would be the biggest hurdle. People are free to do whatever they want. Not everybody thinks money is the end all and worth giving up parts of their life for. Especially not parts like independent living and having a stable job you enjoy instead of crazy hours with no way to predict them..

Yeah well someone has to work as pay taxes in attempt to fund the liberals fantasy land cradle to grave spending.

Also ferrari's aren't paid with welfare checks.

 

[WatTyler]

It's be more like working with your room mate.

No, it's living with your boss. 24/7. At best it is working FOR your room mate, but seeing as he'll be your gov'ner as a condition of moving in there then that definition doesn't really fit. He's the boss, you're the bitch. But you can try to pretend that balance of power doesn't exist if you want.

$100k is certainly a very nice salary for a normal day job, by UK standards anyway, but being on call 24 hours a day is some price to pay- you'd have to factor that in if calculating your hourly value. It's not as good then, but might be quite good enough. I think I'd want the equivalent of half of my hourly day rate to be "on call". I'm vaked with very foggy mental arithmatic so this is probably wrong, but that's something like a $66k day job, assuming a 12hr day, plus the rest ($33k) as the unsociable hours/on call bonus.

If you're free to vape at the weekends then that's some 'free' time- maybe that's enough for you? I've worked in the past where I've been unable to vape during the week, and sometimes had to go a couple of weeks at a time without due to work commitments, but there's no way on earth that I'd give up all of my free time to do whatever I wanted for any prolonged period.

We're lucky in the UK that piss tests for employment haven't really caught on. I think there's still a sentiment that what you do in you own time isn't your employers business, as long as you don't bring them into disrepute and make it their business. Though how long that will last I don't know.

Yeah well someone has to work as pay taxes in attempt to fund the liberals fantasy land cradle to grave spending.

Also ferrari's aren't paid with welfare checks.

bahaha all roads lead to Rome eh? Go earn those taxes Tea Party! America thanks you for your service, I'm sure. You can sleep in a warm glow of contentment each night knowing how many people your endeavours help. I know I do.

 

[Hippie Dickie]

100k would be starting....

hey, that would move you out of the middle class, so your taxes would go down ... sounds like a no brainer for someone of the TP persuasion.

 

[Tea Party]

Lol I knew at least one of you would go off on a class warfare diatribe. Truth be told I could make 3 times more than that and because of the outrageous taxes in this county I'd firmly be middle/upper middle class.

This country would be far better off of those who don't contribute to society didn't vote.

 

[lwien]

Lol I knew at least one of you would go off on a class warfare diatribe. Truth be told I could make 3 times more than that and because of the outrageous taxes in this county I'd firmly be middle/upper middle class.

This country would be far better off of those who don't contribute to society didn't vote.

Ummm, I'm confused. You are contemplating giving up weed AND moving in with your boss so you could make 100k, but yet, you could make 300k somewhere else where you didn't have to move in with your boss?

This country would be far better off of those who don't contribute to society didn't vote.

And how, pray tell, would you measure that? Would you consider those who are out of work but who have actively been looking for work as one who doesn't contribute to society? What about all those illegal aliens who work their butts off in the fields so you could have fresh fruits and vegatables on your table? Do they contribute to society? etc etc etc. What about those that can't work due to disabilities or health issues? What about those that are too old to work?
Just WHO would mandate who is not contributing? What yardstick would be used to measure that contribution?