It's jibe, unless you're saying someone is a jive turkey.lwien said:Tom says it takes him about 4 hours per unit. So when it's said that Zaps are much more labor intensive, something doesn't quite jive here.
And here all this time, I thought that jibe had to do with swingin' a sale......reece said:It's jibe, unless you're saying someone is a jive turkey.lwien said:Tom says it takes him about 4 hours per unit. So when it's said that Zaps are much more labor intensive, something doesn't quite jive here.
Zaps have much more work in the heatport than my design. Hmmmmm Maybe I didnt copy the PD? I can build one in 2 1/2 to 3 hours without jigs of any sort. If I were making alot of them, I'm sure I could cut that time down quite abit. Of course, thats not including any of the office work, ordering materials, packaging or shipping. That all takes time as well.lwien said:Tom says it takes him about 4 hours per unit. So when it's said that Zaps are much more labor intensive, something doesn't quite jive here.
No, the two grapplers are still in the ring.MrMistyTokes said:good for you man
this ends the pd vs mz war
Beezleb, what you're saying is interesting. Do you think a forced air type vaporizer would be easier for a sick user?Beezleb said:I would be interested if this version is easier to pull with. I know for people who read this I make it sound like these style vapes are hard to draw with but only for very weak and ill people and my experience is very limited so I would not take it as gospel matter of fact but im not about to have to deal with a sick individual in virtual panic mode because they cant their medicine effectively for them. I felt very bad and sick inside about it that day but it all worked out.
regardless, you have to admit that building vaporizers for sick people is a noble act.lwien said:Tom says it takes him about 4 hours per unit. So when it's said that Zaps are much more labor intensive, something doesn't quite jive here.
you know it's Sour D if it stinks the house up like nobody's business.bluntfaced said:Mannnnn I'm tryna cop some of that sour diesel I looove that shit
I'm gonna have to side more with Rick on the build times. I put one together today just too see. Started with rough cut lumber that had to be cut and marked. All steel needed to be cut to length. All stems had to be cut along with the screens. Nothing was prepped, and I had it built in just under 2 hours. I personally only clean the shop once at the end of the day, not after each build and it takes about 15 minutes a day. Post man comes right to my shop. Shop elves...... Thats Rich.Purple-Days said:"
3 hours doesn't include 100% of the process as you point out. Pretty difficult to ship an un-packaged un-addressed product. Component prep time adds up too, and is easily overlooked... With all the parts prepped things go quick, but start adding all those 'extra' minutes in and you are going to see the true build time. Count the time it takes to chop a big slab into blocks for the lathe, or marking centers on them? Count shop clean-up time? Or running to the Post Office to ship? Or cleaning and sharpening tools? Cutting screens? There are no shop elves and it's all part of the build time.
When I say 3-1/2 to 4 hours I have counted a lot of the hidden minutes. So though you think you are building them faster, it isn't likely, a saw only chops so fast, a lathe or drill only cuts so quick.
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