Will anybody smoke in 50 years

[kellya86]

I never thought these e cigarette things would ever catch on. I was very wrong about that. I never thought vapourizing weed would ever compete with combustion. Again very wrong.
As combustion of any type becomes more and more socially unacceptable, and vaping becomes more and more popular, do you think that the tradition of smoking that's humans have had for thousands of years, (only between 2 and 3 thousand I think), will finally die out.
Is this the final days of combustion for our species.
In 50 years will anybody combust.?

 

[thecrook]

can’t see the tobacco industry losing everyone to vapour unfortunately , i still smoke myself but in the uk people hardly smoke weed without tobacco so just habit. also i just ordered Vac and extraction kit so i can at least give up tobacco and just dab .

My girlfriend won’t smoke a spliff nowadays she’s set in her ways of her vaporiser but all the vaporisers i have seen seem to be made of some sort of plastic normally , is there any with all glass or stainless air pathways as i seen some claiming to have isolated air paths but what they are made of i dont know .\

Cool thread though

 

[kellya86]

I live in uk so know what you mean about the tradition of tobacco in joints. So glad I kicked that habit. Weed is much better now. I appreciate it more. I smoked joints with baccy for 15 years. If I can break the habit surely everyone else can. Kids are not into smoking like me and my mates were back in the day. I feel in future people are more likely to try weed for first time through vaping than smoking.

 

[Hubs88]

Vaping is the future of smoking and we are all ahead of the curve.

 

[Tommy10]

I am not an every day smoker however when I drink or "stimulate" myself I like to smoke. E pens don't really do it for that, however I also like to toke after and during such stimulation and I find vapor to hea preferred delivery method in these instances. So I guess for me, as long as I drink or rave I'll probably smoke.
But from a weed only stand point, I think vaporizing will take a much bigger market share in the next decade or so.

 

[jojo monkey]

Stupidity knows no bounds.

 

[HomeFree]

can’t see the tobacco industry losing everyone to vapour unfortunately , i still smoke myself but in the uk people hardly smoke weed without tobacco so just habit. also i just ordered Vac and extraction kit so i can at least give up tobacco and just dab .

My girlfriend won’t smoke a spliff nowadays she’s set in her ways of her vaporiser but all the vaporisers i have seen seem to be made of some sort of plastic normally , is there any with all glass or stainless air pathways as i seen some claiming to have isolated air paths but what they are made of i dont know .\

Cool thread though

Big tobacco already has their own ecig products, with a decent market share to boot.

Do you mean quit smoking cigs by doing dabs all the time? Good luck if that is the case. I found once I was truly ready to quit smoking (like, done) I did it no problem, for many years now. I still have a pipe or cigar every once in a while but honestly they have been tasting bad the last few times (like ashtray), so I stopped pretty much. Used to go for it every 2-3 months.

Most of the vapes listed here seem to be very safe, isolated from any electronics, and use glass or wood stems. They are pretty well researched. You can always get two vapes and take one apart to find out as a sacrifice to the vape gods. It has been done with a decent number of them if you dig through threads here. I believe any plastic parts are either isolated or are some sort of high temp stuff.

I would worry more about the quality of my cannabis more than the safety of our popular vapes here which are not thread candidates. But it is good to be inquisitive.



As far as the OP, this has crossed my mind many times for a few years now. Why smoke when you can vape? I know where I live it definitely seems like there are more vaporists than smokers. For cannabis vapes the vape market is not a huge percentage though. Most people would rather smoke because they don't give it enough time. Hopefully herb vapes don't get tangled into the FDA mess. You could obviously also use an herb vape to vape tobacco, and it wouldn't be nearly as harmful. Just get an extra stem.

 

[CuckFumbustion]

Yes, but they will be in the minority. Convenience will be the biggest draw towards vaporization for the uninitiated. Most people are just getting wind of vaporization now and there is some news articles that will make more aware of this phenomenon.

E-cigs are getting cheaper and are at nearly every place that sells cigarettes in the US. If every big name tobacco company has at least one e-cig on the market, that would be the tipping point. IMO. The ritual of smoking cigars will remain and there will be a few die-hard cigarette smokers who need that instant nicotine rush. But some statistics are saying younger people are into vaporization and weed and less into cigarettes and alcohol. So there is a definite sea change. Alcohol will become slightly less popular too.

Colorado has had fewer alcohol related DUI's and DWI's since legalization which is surprising. But Amsterdam never had a real problem with cannabis with the locals, just the tourists.
Just didn't plan on that factoring in so early in the game.

 

[kellya86]

I agree that tobacco companies will jump on the bandwagon with the e cig. They would be neive to think they won't have to evolve to keep up.
Honestly ten years ago did anyone think so many people would be using these ecig? I didn't.
As for vaping weed. Sounds like it's quite common in USA but here in uk it is not mainstream at all and needs a good 5 years of marketing and public information to convince the British public there is a better way that contaminating your herb with tobacco then setting light to it. I am trying to convert as many people as I can but it's proving impossible. Vaping once isn't enough to convert someone. They need a week of no combustion and only vaping from a good quality machine. And people I know do not have the patience for this and don't like change.

And have you considered that maybe in 50 years combustion may be illegal all together.

 

[CuckFumbustion]

Tobacco and weed is a terrible combo. IMHO. I refused to smoke blunts offered to me when I used to combust. It would tear my chest up and make me a little sick. Only B-boys were into blunts in my part of the US anyway. Tobacco piles tar on your lungs while combusting Weed tears open the lung aioli. Even the dumbest of people would criticize me for smoking tobacco/a cigarette after a burning a bowl. 'What's the matter? is my weed no good?' When I heard that Europeans were into that, My opinion of Europeans lessened a bit. Naw, just kidding. I know it has to do more with indica being a factor and the culture. Can't believe that was still a practice until you told me different.

There is a bit of an 'organic' movement and a push from 'alternative medicine' that changed how some users viewed the green in the US. Plus the climate for other strains. This was say 20 years before Colorado began their social experiment. Try the alternative medicine angle, if it might change a few minds. If that hasn't already made an impact.

 

[bella]

In my country i think smoking cigs will become too expensive. It already costs more than $1 per cig with price rises twice a year, every year. I have never met a smoker who used straight mj in 2 1/2 decades of smoking.

As a 2g weed/5-6cigs a day mj/tobacco smoker, i am now saving around $100 fortnight just by not using tobacco. It really is getting expensive -especially for young people (which i, alas, am not ).

Vaping is rare here. I've never met another vapist in real life. There are quite a few aussies on fc but we seem to be spread throughout the (very large) country.
Vaporisers are also pretty expensive here - very much a niche market at the moment, i imagine.

I have been seeing more and more e-cigs over the past year. Hopefully a sign of things to come...

 

[Tommy10]

In my country i think smoking cigs will become too expensive. It already costs more than $1 per cig with price rises twice a year, every year. I have never met a smoker who used straight mj in 2 1/2 decades of smoking.

As a 2g weed/5-6cigs a day mj/tobacco smoker, i am now saving around $100 fortnight just by not using tobacco. It really is getting expensive -especially for young people (which i, alas, am not ).

Vaping is rare here. I've never met another vapist in real life. There are quite a few aussies on fc but we seem to be spread throughout the (very large) country.
Vaporisers are also pretty expensive here - very much a niche market at the moment, i imagine.

I have been seeing more and more e-cigs over the past year. Hopefully a sign of things to come...

Where in Australia are you from if you don't mind me asking? I know us straight mj smokers are rare (although I have and will smoke spun weed in context, just certainly not alone) but we are out there! Haha.

Also yes here in Australia if you smoke a gram a day and buy ounces you are looking at a $10 a day habbit. Smoke 25 cigarets a day and you're looking at $19-$31. Sad state of affairs! No doubt if they ever do legalise herb, the nanny state will sin tax the fun out of it!

 

[kellya86]

Flaming dingo's mate I didn't think anywhere could be more expensive than uk for cigs. I'm in the same boat in uk. Never met another vaper in real life and 20 cigs here cost 10 quid. Which is bad enough. The rest of the world seems a better place to be. They get dispeseries and head shops and cheap tobacco and alcohol and house prices. What do we get. Cricket.

 

[Tommy10]

Flaming dingo's mate I didn't think anywhere could be more expensive than uk for cigs. I'm in the same boat in uk. Never met another vaper in real life and 20 cigs here cost 10 quid. Which is bad enough. The rest of the world seems a better place to be. They get dispeseries and head shops and cheap tobacco and alcohol and house prices. What do we get. Cricket.

Oh shit! I think the great australian socialist dream might just edge the UK out on baccy, alcohol and house prices :/. Only thing we might get you on is bud quality and price! 23 million people and all that space and sun means supply is alright and demand ain't bad... Still until prohebition ends we won't be seeing the frosty treats you see coming out of North america .

Another thing worth discussing when it comes to smoking ciggies. Does anyone here believe price increase helps people stop? 12.5% a year increase last year this year and next year here! I personally can't help but think, taxing people's addictions only leaves less money for them and the family.

 

[kellya86]

Bud quality is an annoying issue for me. More than annoying when I put it under scope to find crushed glass particles all over it. So I turned to cultivation to produce my own custom frosty delights.


As for tobacco I honestly believe that nicotene is so addictive you could charge 50 quid for 10 and people would still pay. And the government knows this all too well.

 

[bella]

@Tommy10: I'm in Victoria. I tried straight mj once in adelaide and nearly coughed up my lungs, lol.
Luckily i get my oz's from a friend who grows and pay very little - less than my cigarette bill, actually.
I've been vaping for a month now and am using 3/4 less than when smoking. Have gone from 2g to less than .5g . So true about our nanny state, lol. No fun for us... not without a permit and a tax and a risk assessment


@kellya86: yep, smoking is an expensive habit down here. Our govts (state and federal) are working to crush the tobacco companies. Have you seen our hideous cigarette packets? Google them if not, but be prepared to gag. I was in the uk last year and bought a packet of 10cigs to show everyone back home. Such small packs have been banned here (b/c they are more affordable for kids etc). Now govt is looking at banning e-cigs too. They're already technically illegal, i think, but it's not enforced. And please, please don't mention the cricket...

 

[Tommy10]

Wow! We certainly don't have those sort of problems that I have seen!
Yep I'm with you there! Very unfair to tax peoples addictions, and then claim it is for their own good! Absolute rubbish! I'd love to see E-cigs and vapes take off here, but majority of Aussie MJ users still smoke bongs mixed with tobacco (I'd say a good 90%+) and cannabis culture is so far behind here. We have one decent vaporizer store that I know of in this country and the amount of aroma therapy crap all over the website, disclaimer boxes to tick, warnings and when you ring you have to press a 1 to acknowledge vaporizers are for aroma theory use only. Like most things technology progresses much fast than the state can legislate, I think we'd have to be 20 years behind the US in cannabis culture. Also plenty of 20 year olds smoke now, if the lung cancer doesn't get them, they may still be smoking in 50 years.

 

[bella]

If you email a certain australian vapor store and even mention mj they will not respond to you. If you re-send the email with 'mj' swapped for 'aromatherapy herbs' you will get a reply almost straight away, lol. Poor bastards are in queensland, closest thing we have to a police state. Seriously, police will do a big raid and boast on the news about the 3 grams they found . I never thought the usa would legalise mj before australia. Shame on us.

@Tommy10, I think that price increases only help people to give up if they were aready wanting to give up. If it gets too expensive people will just turn to chop-chop (illegal tobacco).

@kellya86, holy shit -glass . I get annoyed if my bags are a bit leafy but i've never had to worry about contamination. That's nasty. I feel bad for you...

 

[kellya86]

Another thing that I just thought of. The government must be losing alot of money as people switch from tobacco to e cig. I'm sure they won't continue to let this money escape them for much longer. They will find a new way to claw in that tax money. Maybe they will have to legalise mj just to recoup their losses.

@bella don't feel bad for me. It's forced me into cultivation and now I have the nicest looking weed iv ever seen and it's in my tent. 3 weeks from harvest. Can't wait.

 

[bella]

@kellya86, I still feel bad that someone thinks it's ok to contaminate mj with anything, let alone glass. It's good that you have it all sorted though!

I would like to see as few people smoking as possible. For me, it is a dirty, nasty and dangerous habit. I have just watched a friend have their voicebox removed and it has been terrifying and dreadfully sad. It's difficult though - tobacco is a legal product and adults have every right to choose to use it. It can't realistically be banned and, as mj users, we all know how effective banning a substance is, lol.

Hopefully in 50 years time e-cigs and mj vaporisers (or other, new technologies) will be powerful, cheap and widely used and combustion will be unheard of.

 

[MinnBobber]

As a 2g weed/5-6cigs a day mj/tobacco smoker, i am now saving around $100 fortnight just by not using tobacco. It really is getting expensive -especially for young people (which i, alas, am not ).

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I had to look up "fortnight" lol.
"two weeks/ 14 days". Phrase not used in US.

It baffles me that people do mix cannabis with tobacco. For me, that's like mixing a superb wine with grapejuice. Why cover up the mj taste with nasty tobacco?

 

[kellya86]

Organised criminal gangs that grow by the warehouse load have no concern for the quality of the product or the health of the clients. It's all about a quick grow and maximum yield. Things like fluorescent tube glass and sugar water are commonly added to buds through the growing phase to add weight. It's sad but true. This is what prohibition does.

I too hope for a future without combustion. Except internal combustion in my car. Hope that doesn't dissappear.

@MinnBobber, it baffles me how you smoke weed without tobacco. Before I started vaping I tried to quit tobacco and just smoked pure mj. It was almost unsmokable I don't know how the rest of the world consume weed without tobacco in a joint. Not to mention the cost of smoking pure. Don't know how anyone does it.
Anyway I'm tobacco free for 4 weeks on Friday thanks to my extreme q. Couldn't have done it without eq. Thanks arizer.

 

[CuckFumbustion]

Colorado just had a tax free day because they got more tax revenue from MJ than alcohol. This social experiment has even me looking like a naysayer. I would have never guessed that more people in that state would use less alcohol and be safer drivers too. If that doesn't help the other states and nations drool over that sweet tax revenue then the data should help in the negative column. At least the UK is now debating on this topic which may have been an unheard of before any of this. BTW I have only seen shwag about 5x in over 15 years. Everybody disses it and complains about getting headaches when using it.

 

[NorVape]

In the 11 years since the indoor smoking ban kicked in where I'm at, the number of smokers have fallen so drastically I almost only see old smokers, junkies and obese people with a general addiction problem smoking publicly.

People either quit, got an e-cig or went back to the tradtional snus (a pouch under your lip. A lot healthier, and a more efficient way of delivering nicotine.)

But people from continental Europe seem to smoke like their cig don't stank.

And, what we have in common with them is baccy spliffs. This is the reason I started researching vaping. If I were smoking clean, US style, I would probably kept smoking for more years.

What I'm saying is, I come from a society where smoking went from being supernormal, to something that the lowest of the low on the social ladder do. In a decade. That's a major change.

So no, I don't think smoking will survive. At least not in societies where other basic needs are met.

The place I live now is the first place without the stench of cigs, in all my life. I didn't realise the foul stench smoke - yes, cannabis smoke also, when it stales - leave behind until I stopped smoking.

I think smoking will end up like heavy drinking, something that was once very normal, and now is frowned upon.

Good diet, active days and vapor vs bad diet, sitting and smoke. Easy to make the choice once it's presented to you.

 

[kellya86]

This is exectly what I was trying to get across when starting this thread. You worded it all brilliantly. The vote is in favour of yes right now.
But the point I was trying to make, that people didn't seem to see, is just look how far we have come in ten years. From almost fashionable still, to socially unacceptable. And this ties up with the generally healthier lifestyle and change in culture that we are experiencing now.
Before you vote yes just think about it. Are we really going to be smoking in 50 years? I think in 20 it will be very rare.