Which vaporizer? TM2 - Solo 3 - Tempest?

RAMMSTEIN

RAMMSTEIN

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Hi,

First to me :)
I've been smoking cannabis for 28 years... the first 10 years just bongs and the last 18 years joints with tobacco.
I have a high tolerance and consumed 2-3 grams a day.
I've been vaping for 4 weeks. and don't smoke cigarettes or tobacco.
First I got S&B Crafty+ which I was a bit happy with at the beginning.
Since I still have a high tolerance, it wasn't enough and a few days later I also got a Dynavap M7XL.
Of course BAM did that and was finally satisfied.
With Crafty alone there would have been a great risk of smoking joints with tobacco again... That's why I'm glad that I discovered Dynavap.

I also bought BB6 for bong and it gives me a very good high.
Since then, Crafty has been lying around and I haven't used it anymore.
The problem was that I was much more high with 0.1g in Dynavap than with 0.2g in a capsule in Dynavap.
I felt like I was wasting my weed in Crafty.
That's why I sold my Crafty and am looking for a replacement.

If the question arises, why am I even looking for a replacement if I am satisfied with Dynavap?
I want an additional one and don't want to be dependent on just one

My current focus is on:

1. Tinymight 2
2. Arizer Solo 3
3. Tempest Mad Heaters

It's clear to me that No.3 is something like Dynavap... and I'm currently favoring Solo 3 because I want something electric...
But now I'm concerned about efficiency... I would like to continue working with microdoses of 0.1 to 0.15-0.2g
And it's important to me which one gives you the most high because I have a high tolerance.

Currently Solo 3 is recommended very often, but not very many have it here in the forum... When I see the posts...
I've almost considered living with Dynavap, but I really want a second device... But a very good one... So that I'm not just stuck with Dynavap again :)
 
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My cannabis story is kinda similar at some points and I also stopped smoking one month ago. I’m lucky to own all of the devices you asked for, as I’m vaping for almost 3 years now. My recommendation for you is the Solo 3, as it has this conduction part. This adds the heavy stoney body high that’s known from smoking and what you’re missing using the Crafty.

The other two devices are great, but more convection leaning and therefore more heady. I’d say TM2 is most pure convection, S3 delivers the most conduction leaning experience and Tempest is in between.

While I really like all of this devices, for me the S3 is the only one being capable to end a session. The two others make me grab for more.
 
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Rodney

Rodney

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I own a Solo 3 TM2 and while I do not own a tempest I own a TA3 and is sort of similar.

This is so hard for me to say as you say "And it's important to me which one gives you the most high because I have a high tolerance." and this would be the TM2 as you can clear a 0.1-0.2g bowl in 1 big hit.

The solo3 is the device I use daily even knowing that the TM2 seems to melt my face more as the solo3 just tastes better and you can do big massive rips with the solo3 but the TM2 wins when it comes to clearing a bowl with 1 hit.

You say you have a Crafty right? ok so I have a Mighty+ and you say "I felt like I was wasting my weed in Crafty." well this is the exact same thing with me with the Mighty+ it just feels like much less a high than with the Solo3 or TM2 this is why I never use the Mighty+ anymore.

So to conclude even though I personally use and prefer the solo3 to the TM2 for yourself i would go for the TM2 and am sure other members will come in and agree here and some might not.
 
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Rodney said:
So to conclude even though I personally use and prefer the solo3 to the TM2 for yourself i would go for the TM2 and am sure other members will come in and agree here and some might not.
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Here I am, disagreeing 🙋‍♂️😄 Yes, the TM2 can do these one hit extractions and they do smack hard. It’s just missing that level of body high aka satisfaction that some folks need, including me. I’ve been trying 2+ years to get lucky with the TM2, which never really worked out. Even though it made me high af, there was something missing. The S3 however I loved instantly.

I’d say the TM2 makes me MORE high, while the S3’s high is HEAVIER. But in terms of satisfactory level for a long time smoker, I’d describe the S3 to give the MOST high, knowing this may be technically wrong. Hope that makes sense somehow 😄

Edit: Just had a nug at 220C with the S3. Fuck, I love this thing 🥴 Call it what you want, but this is the kind of high that satisfies formerly joint chain-smoking me for some time. With the TM2 I’d be packing bowls all night.
 
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RAMMSTEIN

RAMMSTEIN

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First of all, thank you very much for answers.

I saw earlier that I worded something wrong:

"The problem was that I was much more high with 0.1g in Dynavap than with 0.2g in a capsule in Dynavap."

It should say here that I am less high with Crafty with 0.2g. Because I wrote Dynavap again at the end of the text.. it should say Crafty.
For crafty...
At the beginning I was still satisfied, even if I had to fight with myself because of my high tolerance.
I initially vaped it at 180 degrees and it tasted good.. but the high wasn't that high.
I need high temperatures of around 200 degrees to get a good high.
When I took Crafty a few days ago, I set it to 200 degrees.
It didn't taste good anymore and still the high wasn't so good... and it was very scratchy... At that moment I decided to sell the Crafty.
1 gram is enough for me in the evening with Dynavap... With Crafty I needed twice as much.


I think I'll order Solo 3
 
Rodney

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RAMMSTEIN said:
First of all, thank you very much for answers.

I saw earlier that I worded something wrong:

"The problem was that I was much more high with 0.1g in Dynavap than with 0.2g in a capsule in Dynavap."

It should say here that I am less high with Crafty with 0.2g. Because I wrote Dynavap again at the end of the text.. it should say Crafty.
For crafty...
At the beginning I was still satisfied, even if I had to fight with myself because of my high tolerance.
I initially vaped it at 180 degrees and it tasted good.. but the high wasn't that high.
I need high temperatures of around 200 degrees to get a good high.
When I took Crafty a few days ago, I set it to 200 degrees.
It didn't taste good anymore and still the high wasn't so good... and it was very scratchy... At that moment I decided to sell the Crafty.
1 gram is enough for me in the evening with Dynavap... With Crafty I needed twice as much.


I think I'll order Solo 3
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I knew what you meant as is exact same for me, I get more high with 0.1g in my dynavape stem + vaphit cap than I do with 0.2g from my Mighty+

and a Mighty+ is pretty much a Crafty.
 
Shit Snacks

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Personally I like tinymight best of all, for anything readily available now, but I would also highly recommend firewood9 for a more artisan and hybrid conduction experience with similar benefits... I love on demand :2c:

However it sounds like you will enjoy the Solo3, coming from DV and Crafty, if you like that style, of course much more automatic digital, less manual, more session, not truest on demand capable yet still versatile, fully hybrid though that is more like DV and S&B (TM would be more different for you comparatively) S3 does have a lot of fans here if you check the thread, it really is a top tier mainstream option today... :nod::tup:

Don't forget about the thermal accumulator along with the tempest, it's possible you might enjoy anvil or the other similar style options if you like DV... Welcome to FC!
 
TigoleBitties

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I have to agree that the S3 is a crowd pleaser. It's my go-to portable right now as well. It's just so versatile and easy. It really came out of left field for me because I had been chasing that session style, joint type experience with things like the Stunner (ball vape, cigarette style vapes) but the S3 delivered instead.

You can grind your flower or use whole nugs. It does concentrates like a champ. The battery is a beast. The flavor is top tier. It's easy to clean. What's not to like?

I'm waiting on an Angus Enhanced right now to see if it'll topple the S3 as my favorite portable. I think it'll be a tall task.
 
PrematureEvaporation

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I think of the 3 options you listed and given what you say about enjoying the dynavap, I would say the Solo is the right choice too. Especially if you’re an ex combuster looking for effects as close to that as you can.

The TM is capable of a bigger initial head rush but once that relatively short period passes I’m left feeling “halfway there” and wanting another hit. The Solo 3 comes on a bit slower but leaves me feeling more satisfied.

It’s also a little bit easier to use than a TM as you don’t need to worry about draw speed and such. It’s there with the vapour as and when you want it, and doesn’t seem to care if you pull hard or slow.



I’ll also agree that you may want to look into the TA or Anvil, if you enjoy the dynavap for the big stoney conduction hits then the Anvil is more or less a direct upgrade of that. The TA is quite unique in the butane pen space IMO as you can directly control the conduction and convection ratio. Very versatile device that I think most vaporists should own. I think the tempest has more bells and whistles but the performance and flavour, effects etc are better on the TA IMO.
 
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Ipe17

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I am a bit suprised of solo 3 being that recommended for the high...

I use my solo 3 during the day cause i feel i dont get that high with it. I use it at 195 C and love the experience, but the high is not that stoney for me.

Then, at nights, i use dynaverse, dani fusion and FW9. Those give me a stronger high

I dont have a TM2, so cant say about that one
 
RAMMSTEIN

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Ipe17 said:
I am a bit suprised of solo 3 being that recommended for the high...

I use my solo 3 during the day cause i feel i dont get that high with it. I use it at 195 C and love the experience, but the high is not that stoney for me.

Then, at nights, i use dynaverse, dani fusion and FW9. Those give me a stronger high

I dont have a TM2, so cant say about that one
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That's exactly my concern, that the high is much less intense than with Dynavap... and therefore just sits around like it did with Crafty+.

I'm about to order Solo 3 and wanted to send the order today... and I will... even if I think Dynavap is enough for me... But it's my inner feeling that says I need it a second device.


I found the Solo 3 here for 288 euros, as far as I could see it was the cheapest dealer for Germany.

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RAMMSTEIN said:
I'm about to order Solo 3 and wanted to send the order today... and I will... even if I think Dynavap is enough for me... But it's my inner feeling that says I need it a second device.
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Good decision. My take is that your dynas will collect dust 😊

In my case the S3 was supposed to put some dust to my two other electric devices. Instead it made me neglect all of my devices, even the ones I like better. Some honeymoon and curiosity for sure, but also the convenience of not having to wait for a torch or IH.
 
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TigoleBitties

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RAMMSTEIN said:
That's exactly my concern, that the high is much less intense than with Dynavap..
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Dynavaps definitely punch above their weight due to the conduction factor but the S3 is no slouch in the conduction department for giving you that intense, stony high. I love dynavaps, and they have their place in my collection but it isn't really a fair fight between these two.

The XL bowl alone is about 3-4x bigger than a dynavap bowl so that's already an advantage, however I find the roast is just as efficient as a dynavap if you want to use smaller amounts. The taste difference between the two should be very noticeable. I think your fears will be allayed when you get the device and it melts your face off 😜. Look for tips in the S3 thread and don't look back. You made a good choice.
 
PrematureEvaporation

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RAMMSTEIN said:
That's exactly my concern, that the high is much less intense than with Dynavap... and therefore just sits around like it did with Crafty+.

I'm about to order Solo 3 and wanted to send the order today... and I will... even if I think Dynavap is enough for me... But it's my inner feeling that says I need it a second device.


I found the Solo 3 here for 288 euros, as far as I could see it was the cheapest dealer for Germany.

tvape.de

Arizer Solo 3 Vaporizer

Der Arizer Solo 3 ist ein Vaporizer mit Glasröhren, präziser Temperaturkontrolle und einem größen Heizer. Kostenloser Versand in Deutschland und Österreich.
tvape.de tvape.de
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Good luck! I agree with others and think you’ll enjoy it. Dynavaps were my first love and the only thing that’s given me that experience but better is the Anvil and S3. Also the TA, but that’s not as automatic and you need to get good at timing the convection and conduction heating just right to mimic the effects of the other two. It’s also just fun to play around with the ratios and have different experiences in general

If you don’t like the S3 though and it’s mainly just about getting the same/better effects as your Dynavap, then I think you should return the S3 and get an Anvil. It’s a harder hitting dynavap that takes similar amounts of herb. I notice one Anvil bowl has effects similar to two in the dynavap whilst also being a bit more complex in terms of signature.
 
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Congrats on the Solo3. I'm sure you'll enjoy it, and I'm also confident it won't be your last vape. To really get to the bottom of what/why you like certain ones, a flexible desktop setup can go a long way. Many ball vapes allow for independent tuning of convection and conduction. I've learned a lot from messing around with my Screwball, and it will certainly inform future portables purchases.
 
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RAMMSTEIN

RAMMSTEIN

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I am very happy with my Solo 3. I have used it daily since I bought it.

My Dynavap is usually lying around.

I like my Solo 3 a lot,,, but I'll definitely get TM 2 next year... Because I just want it :)
 
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