Which vape?

[tobinaut]

Hey everyone,

I just registered to this forum after doing loads of research about vaporizers and this appears to be the most complete resource on information around.
What I was, or in fact am looking for is a durable, well-engineered Vaporizer that offers good Vape, takes the most out of your herbs and is healthy. My first intention was to buy the EQ cause I've read lots of good stuff about it and it seems to be a quite good product, but as I got more into it I was starting to think that it might not be that superior after all. To me, it seems to be more of a product for the masses than one for really demanding people. So basically what I am looking for is the best Vaporizer that I can get, preferably with a wipe-based system.
After laying an eye on the HerbalAire, the SSV, the DB and some other devices, my attention was drawn back to the Aromed, which is the only Vape I've actually ever used. At the beginning of my research the price kept me from even considering this vape, but during my research i figured I would have to compromise in a way with every other vape I checked. For example, while the HerbalAire really seems to be quite durable and makes a good impression, it is said that the wipe function of it doesn't really belong to the best. The SSV also looks quite good, but I really dislike the fact that you gotta hold your wipe manually or else use some kind of tool which wouldn't satisfy me either, whereas the DB seems to be more of a low-cost product, even though I am far from doubting that it is a really priceworthy gadget.
The only device which really interested me was the PD, but since I'm living in Austria at the moment that's unfortunately not an option. So in the end, I always end up wanting the Aromed - which is nearly emberassing me after reading this thread. I do find the questions stated very interesting, and I highly doubt that the alleged manufacturer comments are real. Tomorrow or so I will write him an email by myself and see whether I can get some helpful answers.
Anyway, the fact that I tend to choose the Aromed at the moment doesnt mean I'm not open for other suggestions. So if anyone of you knows another product which you think would fulfill my needs, I'd be very glad about it

 

[phienomenal]

I've tried my friends aromed and it was on par with the SSV. If you're looking specifically for a whip vaporizer I'd say go with a Silver Surfer and just get a hands free attachment. Not worth the extra money IMO, you'll be happy you saved the extra $200. The EQ is the perfect first vape (to help you decide which method you prefer bags/whip) if you're slightly interested in bags as well, the EQ does it all for an incredible price.

 

[tobinaut]

I can't be sure about that as I haven't tried a SSV yet, but from the information I gathered it seems to be producing really big vaper clouds. What I'm looking for is however a vape which gives me steady but soft drags of vapor - so the fact that the Aromed got a water filter is really important to me. I do not want it all at a time, but rather sit on my couch for a while, relax and take a little toke from time to time. Am I right if I assume the SSV is not the right vape for that?
The EQ on the other hand just doesn't quite seem like the high-quality product to me I'm looking for. If I spend that much money, I do want to enjoy my product as long as possible without having to cope with whatever issues. In the end I might still buy it, but only because it is a LOT cheaper than the aromed... and I reckon I would always have the annoying feeling that I didn't buy the best product possible =)

 

[stinkmeaner]

tobinaut, don't let this thread scare you if you enjoyed using the Aromed in the past and now want to purchase one. My comments were never intended to prove that the Aromed doesn't work (make Vapor), they were just suggesting that the advertising claims may be a little off because the thermocouple is in the wrong spot to read the temp. of the actual herbs.

I will suggest you cruise this forum and read the opinions of other members and different models before you make a commitment. As you mentioned, many people enjoy using the Silver Surfer and with a price that is nearly half of what the Aromed cost.

Depending on how quick you are going to purchase, I advise you to look at the VapeXhale Cloud which will be released soon, this vape promises to be leagues above most others when it comes to thick vapor and it will come with a HydraTube which is basically the top half of a Bong, complete with your choice of percolator. Here is the thread: http://fuckcombustion.com/viewtopic.php?id=2234

 

[rayski]

My comments were never intended to prove that the Aromed doesn't work (make Vapor), they were just suggesting that the advertising claims may be a little off because the thermocouple is in the wrong spot to read the temp. of the actual herbs.

You're not being fair because they don't claim to read the temperature at the herb. They state otherwise: "Like in all other vaporizers, the hot air temperature is measured where originated, but only the AroMed has a built in processor, that calculates exact temperatures inside the herbal materials."

 

[DeepFried]

Since you are in Austria, how about getting a vape from EU, like the de verdamper
http://www.de-verdamper.nl/pag1e.html
the web page looks horrible and info is all over the place, but do some research and you'll see it is very highly rated.

also the herborizer http://www.herborizer.com/en/ another highly rated vape

 

[biojuggernaut]

or the a.p.e. vape a U.S.A. product

 

[elmomuzz]

Wow this thing is portable!

 

[tobinaut]

The Herborizer actually looks like exactly the kind of thing I was looking for! Thanks for the hint DeepFried!
The VapeXhale also looks pretty damn interesting - not quite sure yet if I wanna wait that long though =)

 

[HazyDayz]

By advise to anyone choosing a vaporiser is make your own mind up. This forum is great for info, but as some users are involved with certain vaporisers here some advise may be biased.

Not used the herbalaire but highly rated as far a reviews go.

 

[tobinaut]

I finally decided to get an Aromed now - getting one for only 200 Euros =)
I reckon this is a good choice for me. Even though I don't think the perfect vape exists (yet), this one comes quite close as it appears to be effective, healthy and durable which is all very important to me. I would love to buy the Herbo as well, but all the posts about broken injectors just worry me too much.
Anyway, I'll be posting a full review soon and hope I'll still be that convinced about the Aromed by then

 

[HazyDayz]

Wow thats a good price tobinaut! Im sure you'll be impressed, let us know how you get on with it.

 

[tobinaut]

Yeah, it's really cheap (paid only 180 in the end ), already used though - but only on 4 different conventions, so the device basically looks brand new.
Problem at the moment is that I do not have any herbs aviable, gotta wait for that until next week or so. The supply here is pretty bad. I've tried to use a little thyme instead and got the taste in my mouth but I didn't see any vapour comming. Is that normal? I haven't used much material, but still I would have expected some vapour to appear.
So I'm a little worried that something's wrong with my unit after all, even though I wouldn't know what. The light is glowing as it should, which means the herbs should be getting hot, which means everything should be fine.
Can't wait for some quality material to finally be sure!

 

[HazyDayz]

Yeah, it's really cheap (paid only 180 in the end ), already used though - but only on 4 different conventions, so the device basically looks brand new.
Problem at the moment is that I do not have any herbs aviable, gotta wait for that until next week or so. The supply here is pretty bad. I've tried to use a little thyme instead and got the taste in my mouth but I didn't see any vapour comming. Is that normal? I haven't used much material, but still I would have expected some vapour to appear.
So I'm a little worried that something's wrong with my unit after all, even though I wouldn't know what. The light is glowing as it should, which means the herbs should be getting hot, which means everything should be fine.
Can't wait for some quality material to finally be sure!

That must be a bit frustrating having your new vape sitting there without any herbs!
Dont worry, im sure your unit is fine. Once you have your herbs and can test it properly I dont reckon you'll have trouble getting vapor.

Feel free to contact me if you want any advise on it.

 

[OO]

Yeah, it's really cheap (paid only 180 in the end ), already used though - but only on 4 different conventions, so the device basically looks brand new.
Problem at the moment is that I do not have any herbs aviable, gotta wait for that until next week or so. The supply here is pretty bad. I've tried to use a little thyme instead and got the taste in my mouth but I didn't see any vapour comming. Is that normal? I haven't used much material, but still I would have expected some vapour to appear.
So I'm a little worried that something's wrong with my unit after all, even though I wouldn't know what. The light is glowing as it should, which means the herbs should be getting hot, which means everything should be fine.
Can't wait for some quality material to finally be sure!

if you can see it, than it isn't vapor, it's condensation.

 

[tobinaut]

But isn't everyone here keen to get those vapor-clouds? I'm a little confused now...

 

[george]

But isn't everyone here keen to get those vapor-clouds? I'm a little confused now...

just wait till you try it with marijuana. Some herbs produce a lot less vapor than others.

 

[MichMartin]

I have the herborizer and if I were you I would buy the MFLB with the whip.

If you have loads of money, get the herborizer and super nice tube and you are set for life.

 

[OO]

But isn't everyone here keen to get those vapor-clouds? I'm a little confused now...

most people call vapor condensate "vapor", though it isn't.

i've been under the impression that no substance in the vapor state is visible, but in order to give you the correct info, i will talk to my chem teacher and get back to you.

 

[OO]

But isn't everyone here keen to get those vapor-clouds? I'm a little confused now...

just wait till you try it with marijuana. Some herbs produce a lot less vapor than others.

most likely you're comparing the water condensate from one strain to another.
but there is definitely differences between resin content, strain to strain.

 

[Egzoset]

What difference would you say there is between vapor condensate and mist other than its temperature?

 

[OO]

What difference would you say there is between vapor condensate and mist other than its temperature?

i talked to my teach.

vapor is invisible.

vapor condensate is sometimes visible (depends on the substance).

i wouldn't say that temperature dictates one way or the other. pressure and the amount of heat energy in each molecule does (as well as other factors depending on the substance, but if you have enough heat energy to escape the liquid state, you will have vapor).

mist is a type of vapor condensate, usually in referance to water. mostly relative to size when discussing it scientifically.

i do not know what size droplets are considered mist.


i do not know what the most effective droplet size is with regards to circulatory system absorbtion.
i would assume that vapor is most effective, but that may not be the case.

i would need to talk to a biologist who specializes in lung tissue and foreign substance absorbtion.


mod note: OP's topic resolved. Discussion of vapor properties belongs in the General section. Thread closed.