Which States With Legalization on the Ballot will Pass Recreational?

[Crohnie]

There are 5 states (of the 12 or so that tried) that have successfully put recreational cannabis legalization on their state ballots for the general election in November. Which ones will pass and which will go down in flames?

My predictions:

1. Arizona: FAIL

2. California: PASS

3. Maine: PASS

4. Massachusetts: FAIL

5. Nevada: PASS

 

[bobbylite]

Think we, Nevada, will pass it.

 

[Adobewan]

Not to diminish the plight of those in states with no legal access that are in need, I can't help but be concerned about the vise-grip the "legal" powers that be might hold on the industry.
Reading Carol King's posts in other threads is eye opening regarding the liberties LOST with legalization.

Spread the word to your friends and families to know the details before you vote.

 

[GetLeft]

I'm pulling for Maine. 8 hrs. 14 minutes to Sunday River. You got me excited. I can see a nice big stash of sativas in my future!

 

[Baron23]

There are 5 states (of the 12 or so that tried) that have successfully put recreational cannabis legalization on their state ballots for the general election in November. Which ones will pass and which will go down in flames?

My predictions:

1. Arizona: FAIL

2. California: PASS

3. Maine: PASS

4. Massachusetts: FAIL

5. Nevada: PASS

I called it just the way you did.

 

[KimDracula]

Pass in CA!

Despite all the fear and paranoia Prop 64 is a good proposal.

Here's a good article on what causes some to oppose:

http://www.weednews.co/stoners-against-legalization-2016-part-i-california-schemin/

 

[Wahiker]

As California goes, so goes the nation!!

 

[Baron23]

As California goes, so goes the nation!!

I believe so also. Maybe a bit of delay, but with CA, OR, and WA on board that's the entire, densely populated west coast.

 

[A1]

Mass will Pass!

 

[j-bug]

Nevada will pass they've lost tourist revenue to Colorado and they want to be more tourist friendly and now that means cannabis in Vegas imo. I expect there'll be places you can get high or medicate and gamble on the strip before too long.

Arizona is a mess right now wrt cannabis and seems to be sliding backwards so I think they're not going to pass legal recreational use.

Don't know much about Maine or Massachusetts.

I think the article about California linked above is condescending and not even entirely accurate. It draws parallels between established systems in other states and California's current system saying we are more similar to Colorado or Oregon rather than Washington and based on what I've heard from actual patients in those states I think California has a lot more in common with Washington than is glossed over in the article linked above. And seeing the increasing restrictions on edibles and abysmally low doses being enforced now in Colorado and Oregon as well as Washington doesn't sit well with me. If I have to buy a package that's capped at 100 mg thc and split into 10 different individually packed packages for $15-20 and they restrict the types of edibles that's really gonna impact my ability to medicate affordably. I'm not so worried about the cost of flower or concentrates, I expect flower will probably go up a bit and then eventually be lower for the level of quality that suites my concerns about material safety and my budget, and I expect some of the budget concentrate options will not be quite so budget friendly though I expect more mid market stuff of good quality after a bit so that'll be a bit of a wash and I'm already stocking up to hopefully ride out the high point for concentrate costs. Was going to stock up on flower too to ride out that price bump but I'm not satisfied with my current long term storage options for it and think investing in storage would likely cost more than it'd save. Not to mention the loss of freebies from dispensaries, and sure you can argue that the freebies are baked into the cost of what you're getting, but do you think the dispensaries are just going to immediately lower their prices to compensate for us not getting the freebies anymore? No they are gonna just smile and thank that clause of the bill for making them a little bit more money.

So while I'm actively convincing everyone I know who is a California voter to vote no for a variety of reasons I do expect that it will pass and am doing what I can to prepare for that possibility.

 

[turk]

...at some point there is value in "checking out the room"....see the folks who oppose this in ca?....do you really want to be associated with any of these people ?...on any level?

 

[j-bug]

...at some point there is value in "checking out the room"....see the folks who oppose this in ca?....do you really want to be associated with any of these people ?...on any level?

I know that me and patients like me will be negatively effected by this proposition passing, if the police and a handful of other awful groups happen to accidentally be fighting for patients like me and our interests that isn't gonna stop me for fighting for our interests too.

A broken clock is right twice a day, I'm not going to argue with it when it's right, that'd be silly.

 

[turk]

...well...I'm black and I have MANY issues with the police... and the d.a.'s...I never will be on the same side as them on issues of law and incarceration..

 

[Farid]

Mass will pass. If medical passed 63% to 36% I think rec will pass by a hair. The anti cannabis forces are really weak right now, and include some really disliked politicians. Veterans groups have been going after Baker for his work against Medical cannabis, and police chiefs all around the state have come out in support of legalization.

Maura Healey is part of the anti cannabis coalition, and lots of gun owners already loath her for attempting to ban popular rifle variants. Hopefully that will move them to support 4. I think here in MA people are good at coming together on issues, and a lot of the people on the left and the right who support individual freedom in all aspects (Republicans who support marriage equality, and Democrats who support protecting gun owners' rights) are united on supporting question 4.

 

[KimDracula]

I know that me and patients like me will be negatively effected by this proposition passing, if the police and a handful of other awful groups happen to accidentally be fighting for patients like me and our interests that isn't gonna stop me for fighting for our interests too.

A broken clock is right twice a day, I'm not going to argue with it when it's right, that'd be silly.

Can you be more specific as to what provisions in Prop 64 will negatively affect you? How are you convincing people to vote no?

EDIT: The police, prohibitionists, rehabbers, drug testers, alcohol producers, big pharma, et al are not fighting for us IMO.

 

[grokit]

Mat-Su voters reject commercial cannabis ban, but pot taxes popular

WASILLA — Residents of Alaska's reputed marijuana cultivation capital rejected a bid to outlaw commercial cannabis operations in local elections Tuesday.

A proposition to ban marijuana operations outside the cities of Palmer, Wasilla and Houston went down to defeat, according to unofficial results from the Matanuska-Susitna Borough.

The ban would prohibit pot businesses including cultivation, testing, production of edible products and retail sales. It exempted industrial hemp. Such a local option was a provision of Ballot Measure 2, the statewide measure Alaskans approved in 2014 that legalized recreational marijuana.

A higher-than-expected voter turnout helped defeat the measure, opponents said late Tuesday night

more:
http://www.adn.com/alaska-news/2016...defeat-in-mat-su-but-pot-taxes-prove-popular/

 

[A1]

Recreational marijuana will pass
in every state where it is on the ballot - Acording to the polls.
http://theantimedia.org/recreational-weed-every-state-polls/

October 5, 2016 | Alice Salles

Data published recently by the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML) — and sourced from a variety of organizations — shows recreational marijuana ballot initiatives are trending favorably among voters in most states.

In every state where recreational marijuana is on the ballot this November, the Washington Post’s marijuana policy reporter, Christopher Ingraham, notes,“[m]arijuana legalization is leading.” This isn’t a surprise considering the legal marijuana industry has been growing substantially, becoming one of the fastest burgeoning industries in America.

According to the poll, 50 percent of respondents in Arizona view recreational marijuana legalization favorably, while 60 percent in California do. Fifty-three percent of voters in Maine and Massachusetts and about 57 percent in Nevada also agree that legalizing recreational pot in their states would be a positive development.

Data compiled in the NORML report was drawn from several different sources, such as theArizona Republic/Morrison/Cronkite News poll, The Public Policy Institute of California’s September 2016 survey, the Portland Press Herald,Suffolk University, and WBZ-TV,WBZ NewsRadio, and UMass Amherst.

According to NORML, out of the “13 … ballot initiatives [hoping] to either legalize adult marijuana use or to legalize the use of medical marijuana for qualifying medical conditions,” ten have qualified for the November 2016 electoral ballot. If all initiatives pass by popular vote, the country could “double the number of states that allow the recreational use of marijuana and could potentially expand the therapeutic benefits of marijuana use to millions of Americans".

 

[mitchgo61]

Maine ballots are here. I love democracy!

 

[turk]

....so is calfornias....not ...a big fan...of democracy....(especially the American version).

 

[lwien]

What happens to all of the medical dispensaries when this bill passes in Cali?

 

[turk]

....well supposedly they're getting regulated...anyways,..but what really happens is a panel is established...(another level of bureaucracy )...to corrdinate rates...standards...more regulations..and procedures....of course each local municipality still has right to shape legislation in their own image...pribablymissing a couple of things...so some may expand...others may disappear .

 

[lwien]

....well supposedly they're getting regulated...anyways,..but what really happens is a panel is established...(another level of bureaucracy )...to corrdinate rates...standards...more regulations..and procedures....of course each local municipality still has right to shape legislation in their own image...pribablymissing a couple of things...so some may expand...others may disappear .

And will there be both medical and recreational dispensaries that operate under different regs? So many questions.

 

[turk]

....probably...I think stuff like that may be left up to each individual municipality ...some places can still elect to not have any dispensaries at all...
...usually these thing are the province of local planning departments...and...land use.
...the sf model has evolved to where...although there are many dispensaries ...they are limited to poor...working class areas...surprisingly the rich...don't want this stuff in their neighborhoods...funny that.

 

[Baron23]

Maine ballots are here. I love democracy!

Good luck up there, Mitch. I also love democracy...especially the American kind.

 

[j-bug]

https://voteknowprop64.blogspot.com/p/ithought-for-decades-that-legalization.html?m=1

Here's a good legislative analysis of how prop 64 will hurt patients.