Which is the best portable for circular breathing (very high draw resistance)?

[chlorophyll_man]

I find direct to lung pulls too irritating to my throat unless I'm using a waterpiece.
I'm looking for portable that works well with a circular breathing (mouth to lung) technique. I'm thinking that units with high draw resistance and conduction heating are likely candidates..?
The Vapcap M is perfect for my needs apart from the 0.1g load limit. I want to be able to chug away on 0.3g in one non-stop session.

Ring any bells for anyone?
Thanks

 

[subway13029]

Have you tried a pax? And i wanna say that the vapium summit was a mouth pumping vape..not good for long draws so to speak.but i could be misremembering things..

 

[chlorophyll_man]

Have you tried a pax? And i wanna say that the vapium summit was a mouth pumping vape..not good for long draws so to speak.but i could be misremembering things..

Hey thanks, yeah I wondered if Pax would get suggested. I never really thought they were suitable for me before (and I haven't ever used one) but now maybe they're actually perfect for this use.

 

[subway13029]

Yeah that was how I learned to use my go pax but the pax 3 is good model but look into the summit as well..def cheaper than pax.

 

[chlorophyll_man]

Yeah that was how I learned to use my go pax but the pax 3 is good model but look into the summit as well..def cheaper than pax.

I think I'd probably buy the Pax 3 right now if it had a replaceable battery. I might anyway, this Boost mode they speak of sounds perfect.

 

[invertedisdead]

My Arizer Air has fairly high draw resistance but I've not used anything as tight as my OG vapcap.

 

[Pimpslapper]

I find direct to lung pulls too irritating to my throat unless I'm using a waterpiece.
I'm looking for portable that works well with a circular breathing (mouth to lung) technique. I'm thinking that units with high draw resistance and conduction heating are likely candidates..?
The Vapcap M is perfect for my needs apart from the 0.1g load limit. I want to be able to chug away on 0.3g in one non-stop session.

Ring any bells for anyone?
Thanks

What about a titanium tip for your M?
It has the adjust a bowl feature.

 

[invertedisdead]

What about a titanium tip for your M?
It has the adjust a bowl feature.

That's to adjust to a smaller bowl, Shroomie wants a larger bowl

 

[Pimpslapper]

That's to adjust to a smaller bowl, Shroomie wants a larger bowl

True haha. I have a tiM but never bothered adjusting the bowl.
I assumed it could go bigger not just smaller!.
Then multiple tips is the solutuon

 

[blackstone]

I find direct to lung pulls too irritating to my throat unless I'm using a waterpiece.
I'm looking for portable that works well with a circular breathing (mouth to lung) technique.

Just wondering, what vapes have caused this for you.
I'll cough with a short simple vapor path, but some vape designs are different levels of smooth.
There are people who will cough when their vapor path is becoming dirty from use, even in a smooth vape.
It would be nice if you can open your options by finding another way around this issue you experienced.

 

[Hippie]

The Haze V3 ticks a lot of your boxes imo with it's restricted draw through a thin mouthpiece, dual chambers (incase one isn't enough ) and replaceable battery.
It's been around a while now so there's a decent sized thread here on FC for more detailed info and user experiences
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/haze-dual-v3.13162/

 

[chlorophyll_man]

Hey thanks for the help friends.

@invertedisdead yeah, that's another I watched some reviews for. It just didn't look like it would produce enough vapour for mouth to lung pulls. But I haven't tried it so I might be wrong! The last thing I want is airy/empty tokes.

@Pimpslapper I've got the Omnivap Ti, but I actually prefer the M in terms of draw. In fact I drop hemp fibre under the screen/CC'D (thanks @Squiby) to increase the draw resistance a bit. Multiple tips, yeah, another option that I hadn't thought was for me but might actually be a solution.

@blackstone I haven't had a portable yet that didn't cause potential coughing fits. This is OK (but not desirable) at home, but the tears and wheezing draw too much attention when outside.
I think this is probably due to the dryness/heat that you rightly mention, but I'll lose a lot of stealth with even a small hydratube on a portable I think. I use an Aromed at home sometimes; even through the long whip I cough when used dry, and it's not really known for massive clouds.


What I really want from this mythical device I seek is to be able to administer 0.3g in one quick session without coughing. I'm after dense vapour that most folk would find harsh with direct to lung method. The M would have me vowing to give up vaping if I direct to lung pulled it, but I absolutely LOVE using it mouth to lung in the circular manner. It gets you very high this way!

I'm open to other techniques people use for inhalation though, always good to know other ways of getting round the coughs.

@Hippie Ok, that's good to know. I'll check it out, I know of it but little about it. I love researching vapes

 

[C No Ego]

Hey thanks for the help friends.

@invertedisdead yeah, that's another I watched some reviews for. It just didn't look like it would produce enough vapour for mouth to lung pulls. But I haven't tried it so I might be wrong! The last thing I want is airy/empty tokes.

@Pimpslapper I've got the Omnivap Ti, but I actually prefer the M in terms of draw. In fact I drop hemp fibre under the screen/CC'D (thanks @Squiby) to increase the draw resistance a bit. Multiple tips, yeah, another option that I hadn't thought was for me but might actually be a solution.

@blackstone I haven't had a portable yet that didn't cause potential coughing fits. This is OK (but not desirable) at home, but the tears and wheezing draw too much attention when outside.
I think this is probably due to the dryness/heat that you rightly mention, but I'll lose a lot of stealth with even a small hydratube on a portable I think. I use an Aromed at home sometimes; even through the long whip I cough when used dry, and it's not really known for massive clouds.


What I really want from this mythical device I seek is to be able to administer 0.3g in one quick session without coughing. I'm after dense vapour that most folk would find harsh with direct to lung method. The M would have me vowing to give up vaping if I direct to lung pulled it, but I absolutely LOVE using it mouth to lung in the circular manner. It gets you very high this way!

I'm open to other techniques people use for inhalation though, always good to know other ways of getting round the coughs.

@Hippie Ok, that's good to know. I'll check it out, I know of it but little about it. I love researching vapes

if your trying to get ( just that much more vapor) in your lungs in one time no matter the vape its gonna be harsh.... maybe you need to look into dabs- e-nails and portable oil tanks

 

[chlorophyll_man]

if your trying to get ( just that much more vapor) in your lungs in one time no matter the vape its gonna be harsh.... maybe you need to look into dabs- e-nails and portable oil tanks

Hi, I don't mean in one hit/pull if that's what you mean?
But maybe you are right, that a flower vape doesn't exist like this.
I think probably a Pax 3 is nearest to it.

 

[lazylathe]

Pax 3 or even an original Arizer Solo.
The Solo is built like a tank and had much better flavor for me than the Pax 3.
Or even an on demand convection vape like the Milaana. It works well with cigar type pulls.

 

[chlorophyll_man]

Pax 3 or even an original Arizer Solo.
The Solo is built like a tank and had much better flavor for me than the Pax 3.
Or even an on demand convection vape like the Milaana. It works well with cigar type pulls.

Ah cool, didn't know that about the Milaana, thanks. I probably shouldn't discount convectors you're right.


EDIT: Went for Pax 3 with pusher £135 new.

Thanks for all the input, will post my thoughts in time.

 

[C No Ego]

Hi, I don't mean in one hit/pull if that's what you mean?
But maybe you are right, that a flower vape doesn't exist like this.
I think probably a Pax 3 is nearest to it.

you could add in degummed hemp fiber to any vape and make it "slow draw speed" and get that "mouth swirl" of vapor.... add the fiber after the load so th evapor goes through it a and pack it to fit the draw... when the fiober gets sticky and " really " hard to pull through ( we cuss that less draw and you want it??) save that sticky icky and make reclaim with it...

also- side mouth pulls , lesser lip draws etc... can give more resistance to vapes too if you hold your moth right

edit, I personally dislike a stuck feeling vape.... if it's to open I work with it to slow it down some but a stuck feeling vape just makes for a less air induced high... I like to mingle fresh air with vapor to increase how High I get...

 

[chlorophyll_man]

you could add in degummed hemp fiber to any vape and make it "slow draw speed" and get that "mouth swirl" of vapor.... add the fiber after the load so th evapor goes through it a and pack it to fit the draw... when the fiober gets sticky and " really " hard to pull through ( we cuss that less draw and you want it??) save that sticky icky and make reclaim with it...

also- side mouth pulls , lesser lip draws etc... can give more resistance to vapes too if you hold your moth right

edit, I personally dislike a stuck feeling vape.... if it's to open I work with it to slow it down some but a stuck feeling vape just makes for a less air induced high... I like to mingle fresh air with vapor to increase how High I get...

Yeah, I use that hemp fibre in a few of my vapes. Surprising how such a small amount of it makes so much difference to draw resistance. Thanks for the tips.

 

[P.A.M.]

If looking into the Milaana, might has well look at Lil' Bud. On demand convection. [URL='http://www.vapwood.com']www.vapwood.com[/URL]. Good luck in your search , hope you'll find something that works for you .

@Mushroomturtle , just noticed in your EDIT you went with the Pax 3. Right on, less is know how it works for you!

 

[chlorophyll_man]

If looking into the Milaana, might has well look at Lil' Bud. On demand convection. [URL='http://www.vapwood.com']www.vapwood.com[/URL]. Good luck in your search , hope you'll find something that works for you .

@Mushroomturtle , just noticed in your EDIT you went with the Pax 3. Right on, less is know how it works for you!

The Pax 3 arrived, was tested (using the multitude of online tips), and is now being returned.
Unfortunately it was not suitable for my intended purpose and I couldn't recommend it at all.

I am very interested in the Milaana, just not sure it has enough of the stealth factor.
I'll check out the Lil Bud, otherwise I'm waiting a year or so until tech progresses some more, and in the meantime will have to find more discreet ways of using my Vapcap M in public. An induction heater would work but it would have to be about the size of a pack of 20 cigarettes to be pocketable I think.

 

[Alex3oe]

Lots of people don't like the original Solo/Air cause of the high draw resistance, maybe try one of these

 

[sixstringsmash]

Figured I'd chime in here a bit.

If you like the vapcap M maybe another butane vape might be up your alley, the Sticky Brick? It's not a MTL style vape by nature but it works with the use of a carb to adjust airflow and with the right technique you can adjust the airflow with your finger to suit more of a MTL style of inhale.

 

[chlorophyll_man]

Figured I'd chime in here a bit.

If you like the vapcap M maybe another butane vape might be up your alley, the Sticky Brick? It's not a MTL style vape by nature but it works with the use of a carb to adjust airflow and with the right technique you can adjust the airflow with your finger to suit more of a MTL style of inhale.

Yeah, I have the Flip Brick and ELEV8R because I do like the energy that butane kicks out - so you got me pretty sussed!
I think I should probably have been more specific when I mentioned 'portable' - as in, could use when out and about. My fault, sorry.

 

[AJS]

Arizer Solo