randybishop
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I ask because I live in a state where it is completely illegal and I don't believe I've ever had great weed.
How is great weed different from just good weed?
How is great weed different from just good weed?
What seperates great weed from just good weed?
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t-dub
Vapor Sloth
Great weed is first grown properly, all organic, no "Miracle Grow" or any other unnatural fertilizers, pesticides, or chemicals. 450 gallon smart pots were the call this year and they did well. Truck loads of soil amendments are needed with proper drainage, wind shielding, and irrigation etc. It is then cut at the proper time, not early you want some amber trichs, and then cured properly, not rushed or sold wet. Medicine that is properly grown and cured will have higher medicinal values, look and smell better, and just plain perform better. This is obviously for an outdoor, annual situation. Indoor is more complex because you have to control a lot of variables to replicate nature and many things can go wrong in sealed environments. I will be learning more about this soon.
My last criteria, and this is a tough one, is that it absolutely must be free . . .
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My last criteria, and this is a tough one, is that it absolutely must be free . . .
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herbivore21
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At the end of the day, it's about being properly cured, unadulterated and as covered in glandular trichome heads as possible and harvested at one of several junctures of opportunity. I myself prefer to get as much of the carboxilic acid forms of my cannabinoids as possible, so mostly mature white with a smaller percentage of amber heads is what I'd ideally go for.
However, anyone who knows anything about world cannabis culture knows that where I am, I'll be glad for visible trichomes generally. We do get mostly terrible weed down under!
However, anyone who knows anything about world cannabis culture knows that where I am, I'll be glad for visible trichomes generally. We do get mostly terrible weed down under!
The answer(s) lie in how the plants are grown including all their cultural care needs(sunlight, growing medium, moisture and nutrients/fertilizer)being met or are manipulated and controlled so their needs are met. Cannabis plants have the ability(Hermaphroditic)to be either Sex or both at the same time...It just depended on their survival needs. When the growing plants have all their needs met the ratio between Female and Male plants(known as being dioecious) will usually be 1:1. But once the environmental factors become harsh and survival is threatened Cannabis has the ability to change sex and become Females(or revert back to having more male plants when conditions change) remember the growing cycle of plants is to perpetuate the species so a plant grows from seed to plant to flower to seed production.....
max
Out to lunch
Now that you've heard how to produce great cannabis (let's not get into a growing discussion since it's not allowed here), the difference is that good weed will get you high (or medicated), and great weed will get you REALLY high (or very medicated).
You may not have had any 'great weed' yet, but I can assure you that it's available in your state. You may have had some (or have it now), and just be assuming that there's some out there that's much better. Maybe, maybe not. Hopefully before too long availability will be such that we can all determine the potency of the most highly touted strains.
lwien
Well-Known Member
Great weed gets me higher than good weed.
Just remember, from an Underground Comic from the Late 60's(Some words have been changed to protect the guilty), "Herb will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no Herb."
Take care…..Frodo
TeeJay1952
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It is the person's perspective. A wine connoisseur examine clarity, smell, early taste, notes the predominate flavor and searches for hints of the lesser tones, draws air through their mouth so everything is given a chance to expand and declare. Notes the after taste and effects. They do this whether it is Chateau Lafite or Mad Dog 20-20.
A cannabis connoisseur does much the same thing. When you love something and obsess about it you will examine all the aspects of said same. Don't believe me? Look at all the pages here at FC. We get the greatest information on products that are near and dear to our individual obsession.
A cannabis connoisseur does much the same thing. When you love something and obsess about it you will examine all the aspects of said same. Don't believe me? Look at all the pages here at FC. We get the greatest information on products that are near and dear to our individual obsession.
djonkoman
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in my eyes:
good weed is any weed that gets you high and tastes ok, and isn't harsh. great weed is what stands out from the good weed, maybe stronger or a bit more unique taste(so good weed from area could be great weed in another, since it will be diffferent from the norm), you'll get a little higher/different high as usual.
and then there is exceptional weed, this is the weed I still remember a year or more later, like that time I found some S5xAmnesia for 5 euro per gram at the local coffeeshop, it was placed among the outdoorweed and was also priced like outdoor, but in characteristics it seemed for like indoor(I notice that the stems of outdoor tend to be a little stronger/more fibery, maybe because of wind, for example), I suspect it was grown in a greenhouse, because it had the best of both indoor and outdoor. some of the best weed I've ever bought, great taste and great high, and potewnt too, for an outdoorprice, unfortunatly it was sold out within 1 day, so when I came back the next day it wasn't there anymore...
and the red diesel that a coffeeshop in my old town regularly carries, on the high I would classify it as good/great weed, but the taste is the reason why I still remember it, unique sweet strawberrylike taste.
good weed is any weed that gets you high and tastes ok, and isn't harsh. great weed is what stands out from the good weed, maybe stronger or a bit more unique taste(so good weed from area could be great weed in another, since it will be diffferent from the norm), you'll get a little higher/different high as usual.
and then there is exceptional weed, this is the weed I still remember a year or more later, like that time I found some S5xAmnesia for 5 euro per gram at the local coffeeshop, it was placed among the outdoorweed and was also priced like outdoor, but in characteristics it seemed for like indoor(I notice that the stems of outdoor tend to be a little stronger/more fibery, maybe because of wind, for example), I suspect it was grown in a greenhouse, because it had the best of both indoor and outdoor. some of the best weed I've ever bought, great taste and great high, and potewnt too, for an outdoorprice, unfortunatly it was sold out within 1 day, so when I came back the next day it wasn't there anymore...
and the red diesel that a coffeeshop in my old town regularly carries, on the high I would classify it as good/great weed, but the taste is the reason why I still remember it, unique sweet strawberrylike taste.
lwien
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Hey, I got a question for all you growers out there in regards to what facets make for good weed. If you had to put a percentage on the following factors on the impact of making a good batch of weed, what percentage would you put on the following:
Particular Strain (genetics)
and
Expertise of the grower/cure
assuming that all of the weed that is being compared is all grade A+ to B+?
Particular Strain (genetics)
and
Expertise of the grower/cure
assuming that all of the weed that is being compared is all grade A+ to B+?
TeeJay1952
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Can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear (Start with crap you're going to have crap)
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A Master at any skill can create wonder.
mixchu69
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I do not believe that great weed is in the looks or smell. I have bought top shelf ogs for $60 an 1/8, beautiful with trichomes glistening, smell awesome, and everything you want to see. It was just average. Then, I got a batch from some sellers in northern ca (went to college there-and this college taught me everything about herbs (not classroom but peer experience)) which looked flat and had no pop. The strongest and most potent strain I tried. I asked what it was and they told me it was the original og kush strain, not all these new crossbred og.
The grower told me that dispensaries are initially turned off by the looks. Once customers start buying, it's sold out immediately. So I would say that looks can be deceiving (I'm not talking about cheap shwag).
The grower told me that dispensaries are initially turned off by the looks. Once customers start buying, it's sold out immediately. So I would say that looks can be deceiving (I'm not talking about cheap shwag).
lwien
Well-Known Member
This has been my EXACT experience as well although I did find that the really beautiful great smelling less potent weed got better after about 3 to 4 weeks of storage.
mixchu69
Well-Known Member
With the boveda in the cvault, or straight mason jar?
lwien
Well-Known Member
I double seal mine. First put it in those small air tight Space Case containers and then put those SC containers in air tight mason jars. No Boveda packs.
max
Out to lunch
My experience as well. I've had no name, low smell, non-sticky, blah looking herb turn out to be some of the best I've had. 'Can't judge a book by the cover' really does apply here, at least to some degree.
djonkoman
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I think genetics are the first step, no matter how good a grower is, an industrial hempstrain won't have much thc.
but with those genetics you need a good growing environment to reach it's full potential. in theory a grower without experience could have/create good conditions too, but generally an experienced grower's growing conditions can be considered better. but any chump could grow some smokable weed I think, if he has good genetics, especially outdoor where a lot of the growing conditions are given by nature(for my first grow I just took out some grass in the back of my parents' backyard, planted some plants without adding anything to the soil, I only tilled it, never aplied any fertilzer troughout the whole growing season, and I was rewarded with one plant over 2 metres tall, and 2-3 smaller ones, and enough weed to last till 2-3 week before the next harvest.)
and the cure is the cherry on the cake. it seems to matter more for sativa-dominant strains, and it won't perform miracles, very bad weed in multiple departments is not going to be exceptional after a cure. but it will stabilize/mellow out the smell a bit, makes it come out better, and in some sativastrains a few weeks/months of curing will greatly improve potency. but with some other strains it will hardly make a difference if you cure or not.
so I would say maybe 50-30-20 or 50-40-10, but it depends on a lot of things. indoor I would for example estimate the grower's atribution to be greater, while with outdoor it also depends on your climate and specific conditions(local soil, if it's guerilla, backyard or in a pot etc)
syrupy
Authorized Buyer
I have spent years and dollars researching this question. Let me share my results.
Only a few times, I have found the PERFECT herb. What made it perfect? For one, the strain was ideally matched to what was being treated (or effect desired). Genetics can be a huge factor. This particular herb was so great I forced a meeting with the grower just to pick his brains.
He said there was only one key. Love. He loves his plants. Really loves them. And I observe when someone loves what they are doing, they take a lot of care. They take care of all the requirements posted above. Pesticide free. Properly flushed, etc.
I haven't been able to figure why, but sometimes I think the grower's love somehow transfers to the plants. It may sound odd or unscientific, but I swear the same thing happened with my grandmother's cooking. Pies made with love.
Edit: The strain was True Blueberry and the pie was Apple Cinnamon.
Only a few times, I have found the PERFECT herb. What made it perfect? For one, the strain was ideally matched to what was being treated (or effect desired). Genetics can be a huge factor. This particular herb was so great I forced a meeting with the grower just to pick his brains.
He said there was only one key. Love. He loves his plants. Really loves them. And I observe when someone loves what they are doing, they take a lot of care. They take care of all the requirements posted above. Pesticide free. Properly flushed, etc.
I haven't been able to figure why, but sometimes I think the grower's love somehow transfers to the plants. It may sound odd or unscientific, but I swear the same thing happened with my grandmother's cooking. Pies made with love.
Edit: The strain was True Blueberry and the pie was Apple Cinnamon.
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djonkoman
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I think love for your plants means you will look at them more often, and inspect them better, and therefor,if you have experience and/or knowledge to identify deficits and deseases, you will be able to react sooner.
and sometimes you have to put in some effort, wich is easier with love, for example last year I forceflowered 2 plants, moving them into a dark closet every evening/afternoon for 3-4 weeks, there have been afternoons where I was sitting around relaxing with friends, we were making something toi eat for dinner and I looked at the time, realised my plants had to be put inside so I sprinted to my bike, raced to my house on the other end of the city(small city though) as quick as I could, while already hungry. I could've eaten dinner first, or skipped a day, but at that moment my plants were my 1st priority.
and sometimes you have to put in some effort, wich is easier with love, for example last year I forceflowered 2 plants, moving them into a dark closet every evening/afternoon for 3-4 weeks, there have been afternoons where I was sitting around relaxing with friends, we were making something toi eat for dinner and I looked at the time, realised my plants had to be put inside so I sprinted to my bike, raced to my house on the other end of the city(small city though) as quick as I could, while already hungry. I could've eaten dinner first, or skipped a day, but at that moment my plants were my 1st priority.
BeardedCrow
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For me, great bud smells from quite a distance.
Most of the dispensary weed I consider ok, i have to really sniff it to even get a scent.
I remember days when I had to put in a bag, and then inside a corked jar, and I'd still smell it.
Dispensary bud? I could leave it open and barely smell it...
Most of the dispensary weed I consider ok, i have to really sniff it to even get a scent.
I remember days when I had to put in a bag, and then inside a corked jar, and I'd still smell it.
Dispensary bud? I could leave it open and barely smell it...
