Washington Residents Smoke Way More Weed Than Officials Thought

little maggie

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I worked with someone who moved to Washington to buy a dispensary. She said that few dispensary owners are able to break even and that it was a mistake to get into the business. She has another career which is keeping the family going. But with so much sold, I never understood where the money is going to.
 
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little maggie said:
I worked with someone who moved to Washington to buy a dispensary. She said that few dispensary owners are able to break even and that it was a mistake to get into the business. She has another career which is keeping the family going. But with so much sold, I never understood where the money is going to.
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Small business are often just ducks waiting to die. When paired with the state identifying your business as the new bright hope in the income stream lookout. I am just glad the states are backing off the grow your own folks.
 
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Legislature passes recreational marijuana reform bill

One of the main changes to the current system would be the elimination of the three-tier tax structure that would be replaced with a single excise tax of 37 percent at the point of sale. The excise tax is one that everyone would have to pay, both medical marijuana patients and recreational users.
However, under the bill, patients who are in a registry created under another bill passed by the Legislature earlier this year would be exempt from sales tax on their purchases. Goes to Governor's desk.
 
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CarolKing

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Seattle Police Chief ask to stop writing tickets for Pot

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The chief of the Seattle Police Department has asked the City Council members if they want her officers to stop issuing $27 fines for public pot use.

The Seattle Times reports (http://is.gd/ixQRqo ) that Chief Kathleen O'Toole said Monday that she didn't want to report to the council every six months, as pot use tickets have been generating national news.

Results of a police department study found that in the second half of 2014, although blacks make up about 8 percent of Seattle's population, they received about 27 percent of tickets issued.

Council members said they should provide O'Toole with better guidance, but be wary that a complaint-driven ticket system may be reflecting the biases of callers and leading to unfair enforcement.



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$27 dollar tickets for pot and most of the tickets haven't been paid. I would think the Seattle Police Department has much more important things to worry about.

They also don't want to associate themselves with any racism nooooo. Have the Seattle Police Deptment talked about in a bad light?
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CarolKing

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New Washington marijuana laws take effect Friday


KING 5's Jake Whittenberg reports.

Jake Whittenberg, KING 5 News9:26 a.m. PDT July 24, 2015
Washington state regulators are getting tough with new marijuana laws set to take effect Friday.

Among them is a lesser-known restriction that outlaws the use of the highly explosive butane gas to manufacture butane hash oil or BHO.

The law prevents any medical marijuana processor from using the gas. But an I-502 licensed recreational processor can use butane because the facility is in a highly-controlled and state-certified environment.

Hash oil explosions have become more common with inexperienced manufacturers improperly using butane to extract the ultra-high potency oil derived from marijuana.

Some industry leaders worry the new law could push more production underground, causing more explosions.

"People are putting bombs in their garages. You have to know what you're doing," said Scott McKinley, owner of Caviar Gold in Arlington. McKinley was a BHO processor for the medical marijuana industry until now. He now has a 502 licensed facility to produce BHO using butane. He says it's good that the state is making the industry safer but fears the new law will give rise to the black market.
 
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CarolKing

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I posted this in the picture thread. I couldn't believe it when I saw it. This sign was just put up a few weeks ago. A giant billboard advertising $10 grams at Bud & Leaf. I've never seen anything like it. I've never been in a recreational cannabis store. Looks like I will have to check them out.

I'm curious if the public will complain about it.
 
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Last year the organizers of Seattle Hempfest put up “fenced-off, out-of-public-view, 21-and-over adult lounges” or “marijuana gardens” in an attempt to evolve with legalization … and to separate legal adult use from the herds of young folks that flock to the annual mega marijuana “protestival.”

This year, they had to toss the gardens and all their benefits because of a section written into omnibus legislation that became law in Washington last month. The new law makes providing a place for public marijuana use a class-c felony. And boy is that a really bad idea.

(The mega-event runs three days — Aug. 14-16 — on three Seattle waterfront parks.)

In fact, it’s a classic prohibition-style bad idea, because it makes a felony out of a common-sense, community-based accommodation of a very common and generally accepted reality. People use marijuana. People use marijuana while socializing, often in public. And, turns out, voters don’t want to fill up jails with people just because they use marijuana.


I think that folks will use cannabis anyway. They will just do it in front of everybody if they can't have a designated area. The cops aren't going to be able to give everybody a ticket. There is strength in numbers. The state is doing everything ass backwards with this cannabis legalization bullshit. It was better with just medical cannabis IMO. It is so insanely stupid the way they do stuff here in WA. I feel like moving to Oregon.
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MinnBobber

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CarolKing said:
The state is doing everything ass backwards with this cannabis legalization bullshit. It was better with just medical cannabis IMO. It is so insanely stupid the way they do stuff here in WA. I feel like moving to Oregon.
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CK , I'm reading all I can about WA and OR mj laws and WA is sure going backwards into a "greedy bastard" tax the h#ll out of mj mood which will likely just drive folks back into the grey market or drive them to visit/ move to OR which is taking a modest tax/ allow more shops and competition approach.

Oregon-- congrats on your smart approach

Washington- shame on you greedy bastard politicians that just want to steal $$$ from mj patients and rec users. Your limiting of shops is anti-competition/ anti-consumer/ support the big guy. Hope those politicians that supported this BS law change are voted out and you have to get a real job where you might actually have to earn your paycheck !!!
 
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Tax is an issue but it is not the main issue. The problem with Washington's 'legalization' is it has exclusive features and concentrates production in the hands of a few, does not allow personal cultivation, etc. Tax is an issue everywhere, but Washington's problem is a bigger, systemic issue.

It seems like a general rule of thumb is: the more regulated, the more screwed up the cannabis market is. State monopolies, complicated licensing arrangements, shutting little guys out of the market... bah humbug.
 
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CarolKing

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We are back in Hoodsport on labor day weekend for our 5th annual HoodsPOT event. Located center of town in Hoodsport WA next to fish hatchery on water side!

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We will be holding it directly across from Hoodsport Burgers, next to the hatchery on the water side.

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little maggie

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I haven't ever been to a dispensary in spite of all the billboards on 205 between Washington and Oregon. I'll probably try one at some point since Oregon is only going to sell flowers.
I don't know a lot about the craziness in Washington but I talked to a couple who moved there when legalization began and bought a small store. The government overhead was so high that they never could break even.
 
Detonator

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10$ a g is what I pay for good mid shelf... But what about farmer in Kansas where they corn and wheat have combines picking it...

What could the price be? Don't they want in on this? I know it aint the same but I'm sure they can grow some bud...

Sometime when at a Dispensary you see guys come in with pounds of weed and they are selling it to the desp right there at the same counter your buying it... makes me want to try and grow
 
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By Steven NelsonSept. 22, 2015 | 1:29 p.m. EDT+ Mor
Prosecutor Who Hit Teens With Pot Felonies Reduces Charges
Ben Nichols says he favors legalization and opposes tougher teen penalties.

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Adults older than 21 can legally possess up to 1 ounce of marijuana for recreational use in Washington state. Young adults and teenagers arguably could face felony charges under a new state law.

By Steven NelsonSept. 22, 2015 | 1:29 p.m. EDT+ More
The Washington state prosecutor who charged teenagers with felonies, rather than misdemeanors, for marijuana possession says he's been misunderstood during a media feeding frenzy that erupted last week.

In fact, Asotin County Prosecuting Attorney Ben Nichols, who acted to lower the charges to misdemeanors on Monday, tells U.S. News he favors treating marijuana like alcohol and opposes increasing penalties for minors.

That’s unlikely the public perception of Nichols after he caught national headlines following a local news report in The Lewiston Tribune that three teens were facing felony pot possession charges and possibly five years in prison.

Washington is one of four states that, along with the nation’s capital, have legalized possession of small amounts of the drug by adults 21 and older.

The prosecutor says he actually charged six teens with felony marijuana possession – two of whom already have been convicted – but that he did so because he felt that’s what a new state law requires.



Our legislature's session had a lot on the agenda. I feel that they rushed through the cannabis bills. I'm hoping that the felony for minors gets changed in the 2016 session.
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Gunky

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Pot will do little harm if any to a teenager but a felony conviction, now that bites a big bad bone. Beyond stupid! Let's acknowledge this thing isn't dangerous and take off all penalties for adults while at the same time making this a huge, life-changing crime for a kid.
 
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Extortion and The IRS: Seattle Agent Busted for Accepting Bribes
BY MONTEREY BUD ON SEPTEMBER 23, 2015MARIJUANA NEWS
A Seattle-based Internal Revenue Service agent toiling at the local branch was caught Greenhanded and is now staring down the barrel of some rather stiff criminal charges after getting caught trying to extort cash from the owner of a local dispensary.

According to the intriguing and sordid tale about greed and corruption in the Seattle Times, a local IRS agent, Paul Hurley, is taking the path less traveled by most government employees, and is headed to federal prison for cultivating a plot to extract a substantial sum of money from a dispensary owner, claiming he’d helped with the dispensary’s overdue tax bill.

The United States attorney’s office is claiming that Hurley gave the pot-shop owner documents indicating a tax obligation to the IRS for both 2013 and 2014 – totaling just north of $285,000 – suggesting the financial obligation could have been significantly higher (close to $1 million) if not for his help.
 
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CarolKing

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Are there pesticides in your pot? New Washington rules make it easier to find out
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Under new state rules, cannabis growers and processors will have an incentive to avoid pesticides and improve product labeling. Steve Bloom Staff photographer
BY BOB YOUNG
Washington state announced new rules for pesticide testing in pot as the first product liability lawsuit was filed against the pot industry in Colorado over pesticide use.


Read more here: http://www.theolympian.com/news/local/politics-government/article37996290.html#storylink=cpy


This is very welcome news. I want pesticide free cannabis. I have been shopping at a cannabis farmers market that has pesticide free products. Wasn't sure what I was going to do once the market will no longer be available come July 2016. That's when the new medical cannabis rules start.
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