Having used these two vapes exclusively for so long now I wanted to put up an easy comparison for people who can't decide if the Cloud is worth the extra cash. The VXC has been touted by many(not all) as the newest and best vape in the glass on glass direct to waterpipe category. With only a few contenders like the LSV and VripTech Heat Wand even comparing. For someone shopping for a high end plug in vaporizer for use with a waterpipe, there are only two vapes Iwould recomend, the VapeXhale Cloud, and the Life Saber Vaporizer. I have used each extensivly and must say they rival eachother closely in vapor quality and ease of use. keep in mind I'm looking at the LSV for waterpipe use only, it can also use a dry transfer wand. But then, so can the VXC.
Heat up time: Winner - LSV
VXC - 5-10 minutes, usually the latter for me
LSV - 2-3 minutes ALWAYS. I find in real life the LSV will be ready to vape much quicker than the VXC, so if you are on a time crunch it is the clear winner.
Durability: Winner - LSV
VXC - Durable as fuck. Iv'e dropped it from waist level to the carpet many times and luckily the glass bamboo is strong and even slides up and down when hit hard, saving it from surely having broke. Another possibility is the Clouds bamboo gong joint being broken in half while plugged into a waterpipe joint, so that is something you and friends half to be aware of. And if you use a hydratube with friends there is possibility of them coughing into it and water shooting into the bamboo and most likely cracking it.
LSV - The glass heater cover is encapsulated in the metal body of the vape so dropping this would much less likely get broken compared to dropping the VXC. I believe the biggest deciding factor is that the LSV's waterpipe adapter(bowl) is not connected to the LSV, so if it breaks it's only a small piece you can replace.
Reliability: Winner - LSV
VXC - I feel like the Clouds ability to always produce that thick vapor is not always there when it goes green. Sometimes it still needs more heat up time even though yesterday at this same temp the vapor was glorious. So the Cloud may need to be on for a while to produce the thickest vapor it possibly can. Only a few times has the LED light failed on me(had errors and flashed all crazy, causing me to not use the VXC that day). Then suddenly it works fine next day.
LSV - Always after 2 minutes when i put it back to my temp it will produce the same vapor, ALWAYS. We all know there is not much to go wrong with 7th Floor vapes, they either work or they don't power on.
Vapor Quality: Winner - VXC
VXC - The vapor quality after this thing has been on 7-15 minutes is undeniably superior to what the LSV can produce. It seems to just extract more efficiently while keeping the herb perfectly evenly burned. Because it has heat retention like the herbalair did, you can take bigger hits withought worrying about the bowl getting way to dark or hot. You can pass it to a friend and say just plug into downstem, take hit, and clear.
LSV - Now the vapor quality can be ALMOST just as good as the Cloud, thing is it takes technique, while the cloud is plug and play. With the waterpipe adapter you HAVE to rotate the LSV to not get a dark spot in the middle, and you have to mix between every hit(or two, but i don't do that). So it's possibly to vape a bowl just as evenly as with the VXC, except there is room for error and even when I'm really vaped I find myself accidenly getting a black spot in the middle from trying to take too big a hit. Basically i can't let non vapor pros use the LSV.
Taste/Airpath: Winner - VXC
VXC - The path is all glass besides the Stainless steel bowl, and no vape I have ever used had better flavor, every time.
LSV - The path is all glass except for the ceramic element and the strainless steel screens. taste is comparably to VXC and sometimes just as good, but once again it requires more finesse and teqnique than the VXC. I also feel no matter what the LSV has a slight harshness from the hot element, that the VXC doesn't have.
Maintenance - Winner LSV
VXC - Parts to clean = EZ load bowls, and because they go directly into the bamboo, you have to clean it also because it gets crumbs in it.
LSV - Parts to clean = Waterpipe adapter. Also I find you have to clean EZ load bowls much more often then you have to clean the Waterpipe adpater, but that could vary person to person.
Verdict:
Gotta have both! The vapor quality of the Cloud is slightly better and more easy to achieve, but I don't feel it is always there for me when I'm in a rush or bringing a friend over. For instance, when it's cold out sometimes it takes more like 15 minutes for this vape to start getting the big hits, even though the light is green. When the vapes body starts to get warmer then it is producing the usual hits. The LSV is always at the same temp after 2-3 minutes. So if I'm in a rush I always use my LSV over my Cloud, simply because the Cloud takes too long to get going. Also I feel like I always have to check up on the Cloud because every hour it turns it self off, then I have to wait 10+ minutes for it to be vaping like it was. The LSV could be left on at the perfect temp all evening, and If I left it on overnight it wouldn't be that worrisome.
Each has it's ups and downs but for bang for your buck, the LSV wins. Considering the Cloud costs almost twice as much. I like to use the VXC when I have time on my hands, but when it really comes down to it, the LSV totally meets my needs and more.
Heat up time: Winner - LSV
VXC - 5-10 minutes, usually the latter for me
LSV - 2-3 minutes ALWAYS. I find in real life the LSV will be ready to vape much quicker than the VXC, so if you are on a time crunch it is the clear winner.
Durability: Winner - LSV
VXC - Durable as fuck. Iv'e dropped it from waist level to the carpet many times and luckily the glass bamboo is strong and even slides up and down when hit hard, saving it from surely having broke. Another possibility is the Clouds bamboo gong joint being broken in half while plugged into a waterpipe joint, so that is something you and friends half to be aware of. And if you use a hydratube with friends there is possibility of them coughing into it and water shooting into the bamboo and most likely cracking it.
LSV - The glass heater cover is encapsulated in the metal body of the vape so dropping this would much less likely get broken compared to dropping the VXC. I believe the biggest deciding factor is that the LSV's waterpipe adapter(bowl) is not connected to the LSV, so if it breaks it's only a small piece you can replace.
Reliability: Winner - LSV
VXC - I feel like the Clouds ability to always produce that thick vapor is not always there when it goes green. Sometimes it still needs more heat up time even though yesterday at this same temp the vapor was glorious. So the Cloud may need to be on for a while to produce the thickest vapor it possibly can. Only a few times has the LED light failed on me(had errors and flashed all crazy, causing me to not use the VXC that day). Then suddenly it works fine next day.
LSV - Always after 2 minutes when i put it back to my temp it will produce the same vapor, ALWAYS. We all know there is not much to go wrong with 7th Floor vapes, they either work or they don't power on.
Vapor Quality: Winner - VXC
VXC - The vapor quality after this thing has been on 7-15 minutes is undeniably superior to what the LSV can produce. It seems to just extract more efficiently while keeping the herb perfectly evenly burned. Because it has heat retention like the herbalair did, you can take bigger hits withought worrying about the bowl getting way to dark or hot. You can pass it to a friend and say just plug into downstem, take hit, and clear.
LSV - Now the vapor quality can be ALMOST just as good as the Cloud, thing is it takes technique, while the cloud is plug and play. With the waterpipe adapter you HAVE to rotate the LSV to not get a dark spot in the middle, and you have to mix between every hit(or two, but i don't do that). So it's possibly to vape a bowl just as evenly as with the VXC, except there is room for error and even when I'm really vaped I find myself accidenly getting a black spot in the middle from trying to take too big a hit. Basically i can't let non vapor pros use the LSV.
Taste/Airpath: Winner - VXC
VXC - The path is all glass besides the Stainless steel bowl, and no vape I have ever used had better flavor, every time.
LSV - The path is all glass except for the ceramic element and the strainless steel screens. taste is comparably to VXC and sometimes just as good, but once again it requires more finesse and teqnique than the VXC. I also feel no matter what the LSV has a slight harshness from the hot element, that the VXC doesn't have.
Maintenance - Winner LSV
VXC - Parts to clean = EZ load bowls, and because they go directly into the bamboo, you have to clean it also because it gets crumbs in it.
LSV - Parts to clean = Waterpipe adapter. Also I find you have to clean EZ load bowls much more often then you have to clean the Waterpipe adpater, but that could vary person to person.
Verdict:
Gotta have both! The vapor quality of the Cloud is slightly better and more easy to achieve, but I don't feel it is always there for me when I'm in a rush or bringing a friend over. For instance, when it's cold out sometimes it takes more like 15 minutes for this vape to start getting the big hits, even though the light is green. When the vapes body starts to get warmer then it is producing the usual hits. The LSV is always at the same temp after 2-3 minutes. So if I'm in a rush I always use my LSV over my Cloud, simply because the Cloud takes too long to get going. Also I feel like I always have to check up on the Cloud because every hour it turns it self off, then I have to wait 10+ minutes for it to be vaping like it was. The LSV could be left on at the perfect temp all evening, and If I left it on overnight it wouldn't be that worrisome.
Each has it's ups and downs but for bang for your buck, the LSV wins. Considering the Cloud costs almost twice as much. I like to use the VXC when I have time on my hands, but when it really comes down to it, the LSV totally meets my needs and more.
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